USP9c recoil.. opinions please
9x19mm
February 12, 2003, 05:51 AM
Hello folks,
I would like your comments about the USP Compact 9mm *recoil*, compared to other firearms. I know that the best thing is to try for myself and see (since recoil is a subjective matter), but at the moment this is not possible. I will try for myself in the near future though..
So, in the meantime, how does the USP9c recoil compare to the recoil of -say- the Browning High Power, the CZ75B, the venerable 1911, the Walther P99, and the Glock 17 and 19?
Thanks for any help
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Mylhouse
February 12, 2003, 10:13 AM
The USP9c has very light in recoil for a polymer framed pistol. I fired it side-by-side with a Glock 19, and the USPc had noticeably less recoil and muzzle flip (even with a higher bore-axis). It also had slightly little less recoil and flip than a Walther P99.
Obviously, the CZ75 had much less recoil and flip as did the Hi Power. Hard to compete with those pistols for pleasureable 9mm shooting.
HS/LD
February 12, 2003, 10:34 AM
Even the recoil out of my USP .40 is not noticable if you shoot it enough.
The more you shoot the less recoil you notice, abd the faster you can re-align the sights.
Regards,
HS/LD
M1911
February 12, 2003, 10:34 AM
I have two HK USPcs -- one in .40 and one in .45. The .45 has somewhat less perceived recoil than the .40. Both have a fair bit of muzzle rise. I strongly suspect that the 9mm will have significantly less felt recoil.
10-Ring
February 12, 2003, 10:52 AM
I will try to compare 9mm w/ 9mm recoil. The 1911 usually implies you're shooting 45 acp. I've shot a 9mm 1911 and it was VERY mild to shoot. I think that is basically from the steel frame & slide. As a poly framed gun goes, the USPc 9 is very easy to control & is a mild recoiling compact. The USP 9 is even more mild because of the dual spring recoil systems the fullsize USPs employ.
As you mentioned, the perception of recoil is very personal. You really won't know until you try it yourself. I highly recommend the USP line! ;)
9x19mm
February 12, 2003, 11:52 AM
That is good info guys thanks. I have heard nothing but good things about the USP line ;)
Climb14er
February 12, 2003, 02:06 PM
I love my USPc 9mm especially for taking in the backcountry and mountains. With nite sights, it's my CCW and it's in the bedstand next to me.
I also have 1911 .45 ACP's and while I enjoy this round, the 9mm, with the right defense load, is more than enough defense to protect me. (Hopefully!) Plus, it's downright inexpensive to shoot and practice.
This HK, while a little on the pricey side, is one keeper for life!
10-Ring
February 12, 2003, 02:10 PM
Be careful tho, USPs (well, HK's in general) have a tendancy to multiply. I have 4 USPs in various sizes & calibers and I'm working on a 5th ;)
Schuey2002
February 12, 2003, 02:18 PM
10-Ring is right. Once you start down the "HK ownership" road there's no going back..
I'm waiting on the P2000, it will probably my next 9mm handgun..:evil:
9x19mm
February 12, 2003, 02:26 PM
Hello! I have handled a P2000 it seems to be very nice. Compared to the USPc it feels smaller because it has less edges. Probably better for CCW due to its thinner frame and slide. Ergonomics are good too, but USPc magazines are NOT interchangeable with USPc magazines.
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Schuey2002
February 12, 2003, 02:35 PM
.. but USPc magazines are NOT interchangeable with USPc magazines.
I still want one.. The price is a bigger factor to me than mag compatibility.. $820+ .. OUCH!
Glock 9mm's fill the "high cap" handgun role in my collection...
Skunkabilly
February 12, 2003, 03:13 PM
In a world of magazine compatibility....some dont :neener:
IMO what any added recoil may come from the USP being a poly frame, the good ergonomics more than make up for it, making it a very controllable compact.
USP9C...Excellent little gun.
mpthole
February 12, 2003, 03:18 PM
I agree that they tend to multiple. :p I really enjoy my USP9c although I don't get to shoot it much lately with the cold, cold weather. Of my 4 HK's, my GF preferes the 9c over all the others. The only problem is that she has a hard time with the trigger in DA, so she has to shoot it in SA. The DA trigger is pretty stiff, but very do-able for me.
For carry I prefer my USP .45c but will occassionally go with the 9c when clothing/situation doesn't permit the big .45c. :)
New_comer
February 12, 2003, 07:26 PM
The USP 9 is even more mild because of the dual spring recoil systems the fullsize USPs employ I totally agree! :D
My full size USP9 shoots very sweetly and mildly. Even if I use hot reloads (say 125 gr @ 1100-1150fps), shooting thru a 32-rd IPSC stage is just a breeze. No 'jarring' or shock impact of a fully recoiling slide to pound on the wrists. Very sweet indeed! ;)
Very quick to double tap, too! :D:D:D
I'm falling in love all over again with my USP... ;)
stevec
February 13, 2003, 04:11 AM
I shot a USP9 and based on it's soft recoiling characteristics, I bought a USP9c.
Not the same!
The USP9c is accurate and controllable, but has a sharp muzzle flip. It is a credit to the design that it very quickly drops right back onto target perfectly, but the sharp flip is there.
It is definitely more percieved recoil than a 1911, CZ or BHP. But if you practice with it, it will be no less controllable or accurate. But not as pleasant of a range experience. The lowest recoiling would probably by a 1911 or CZ-75SA.
Steve
9x19mm
February 13, 2003, 05:56 AM
Yes I understand that polymer firearms tend to have more muzzle flip. Probably something to do with weight distribution.. ;)
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