[Edmond]

You guys ever run into those people who have an extreme confusion as to what reality is and what movies are in terms of guns?

I know a guy who, if he could, said he would carry two .50 cal's and shoot them at the same time. For a guy who has never even held a .50 cal, I don't know why he talks like that.

He also talks about a shotgun and how he would shoot it. He thinks that he would shoot a shotgun like the Terminator. Not only has the guy never shot a shotgun before, he's never even witnessed a real shotgun being fired!

[Josey]

I see this all the time. Open Range even shows the usual misconception that a shotgun blast will knock a BG backwards.:banghead:

[DorGunR]

Yeah, I've heard blowhards like that..................starts after the 4th drink.:rolleyes:

[ScottsGT]

Even worse, video game junkies. My boys about crapped their pants when they got to shoot a real gun for the first time and not a video gun. Now they understand why I shake my head when you have to shoot someone 20 times on a game to kill them. Kids are loosing sight of reality, and sometimes might think its OK to "Pop a cap" just once, "I've got to shoot him 20 times before he dies"

[Ant Mod]

You guys ever run into those people who have an extreme confusion as to what reality is and what movies are in terms of guns?

Like the whole 80's? After Miami Vice came out, it was suddenly fact that all armed robbers used AK-47's. Coincidence that much of the anti gun legeslation was passed shortly after thereafter? I think not......

[Jim K]

It is not only with guns. After "The French Connection" and its imitators came out, a lot of nuts thought it was OK to do the car chase scenes on the highway and city streets. A lot went to jail after killing someone; others went to the cemetery after killing themselves.

I once was trying out a video game that had a "commando" type raid a terrorist compound and take out 200 guys all by himself. Of course his dummy UZI never ran dry. A teenage kid was watching and I remarked that the "one man" thing was pretty unrealistic. He asked what the (real) army would do. I said they would probably send a 1500 man combat team, supported by helicopter gun ships, with top cover from air horse F-15's. He thought I was kidding.

Jim

[Edmond]

Thing is, the guy wasn't drinking and he's 24 years old!

[uglygun]

He also talks about a shotgun and how he would shoot it. He thinks that he would shoot a shotgun like the Terminator. Not only has the guy never shot a shotgun before, he's never even witnessed a real shotgun being fired


Heh, go rent the movie "The Run Down" with WWF wrestling's The Rock to see how shotguns are supposed to be handled....

What an action flic, it makes Arnold look like a rank amateur.

[killermarmot]

Nah you guys haven't seen anything till you see me firing two Barrets (the bolt action ones cause I'm that good) at the same time, standing, clearing a room. it's totaly awesome. I also carry a sawed off 10ga for defense against the man. and I like to hunt quail witha 4-bore...they taste better that way.

I find it amusing to hear people make up stuff especially when you know they are so wrong it's absurd, it's only sad when you watch other people you used to respect actually beleive them. oi. This guy I knew I wouldn't call him a friend cause...well...he claimed he drove a blacked out humvee that the SEALS gave him so when they had domestic emergencies he could respond. ofcourse he had, and I quote "a s*&t load of missles and guns and stuff in the back. And I like you guys but don't cross me cause I could have a chopper in here in 5 min." no joke, he was a piece of work. he did it to get the ladies :rolleyes: funny thing is the ladies noticed he wa sa phoney, poked his belly, and left him to the frat boys who actually believed he was telling the truth. (for some reason noone ever brought up that he drove an old civic hatchback....strange how these things work out.

humanity, a never ending tragic commedy.

[Treylis]

I know a guy who, if he could, said he would carry two .50 cal's and shoot them at the same time. For a guy who has never even held a .50 cal, I don't know why he talks like that.

I would also hope he's talking about twin Desert Eagles and not twin Barrett M82s. ;-)

[Checkman]

No he was talking about carrying two Browning M2HB 50's "Ma Dueces". Jeez twin Desert Eagles - get real. All real men carry at least one medium machine gun with them with a light machine gun as a hideaway piece.
:evil: :what:

[armoredman]

Always wanted a matched set of Taurus 454s, but that's the extent of that....

[Sydwaiz]

My friend shot two S&W 500s at the same time once. Does that count?

[Sunray]

Most people never have any exposure to firearms of any kind except through movies and TV. This is why there are so many idiotic gun laws. A politician sees something in a movie and rushes off to ban whatever firearm he saw.
You'll find that most people really believe that you can blow up any vehicle by shooting its gas tank, that a car will always explode if it rolls down a hill, that's it's easy to hit the tire of a moving vehicle and when a body gets hit by a bullet it will fly back 10 yards.
You could point out to your buddy that a .50 BMG weighs 84 pounds empty, but it'll just make your head hurt.

[Werewolf]

Heh! :eek:

I'm ashamed to admit this :( but I once tried firing my 12ga SXS from the hip :what: - ONCE!

I've never ever made that mistake again. My right hand and wrist were sore for a week. :banghead:

Come on fellas...
I can't be the only one here that tried a movie stunt??? :evil:

[boofus]

I tried shooting a XD40 and a USP45 at the same time as fast as I could pull the triggers. John Woo makes it look so easy. I almost ended up shooting my USP with the XD! I love the movies where handguns have absolutely no recoil or muzzle rise. :scrutiny:

[spacemanspiff]

i know a kid who had his mother buy him a "Desert Eagle point five o" solely because of the movie 'snatch'.

and thats not all. he is so in love with that bling bling (its chromed) deagle, he has convinced himself its comfortable to shoot, even more than my 1911.

and just about the rest of his 'knowledge' about guns (that i've been trying to undo and reassimilate) comes from playing SOCOM.

[Edmond]

True or false...

I've read that due to the recoil on the Desert Eagles, the gun can have FTE or FTF problems?

That's what I read and I tried explaining to the guy that the recoil is so strong that the gun will FTE or FTF.

The same guy thinks that those hitmen you see in movies are for real and that there are international assasins like those you see on TV.:(

[No Trespassing]

My movie style shooting:

About 15 years ago I shot my Franchi SPAS 12ga like a pistol (with the stock folded up, weaver stance).

I was lucky to keep it up long enough to empty the mag but the last few shots were in the dirt about 15 yards out. :uhoh:

[CJ]

At a home-defence hour presentation this weekend, about half the time (slight exxageration) was spent trying to explain to one enthusiast about 'knockdown power'. He wanted the magic instant stop and didn't want to believe that a knife-wielding maniac 5 feet from you was probably still going to cut you no matter what you shoot him with.

After a while, I think he finally got the message that smacking someone forcefully with the 1911 with your hands behind it was both a viable option at close quarters, AND provided more 'knockdown' capability than shooting.

[HiWayMan]

Edmond-

I have fired the .357 "Deagle". I had some FTE, and FTF with it. The FTE were as far as I can figure due to the fact that I was limp wristing it. I have smaller hands so the grip would twist in my hands and didn't have enough torque to conteract the muzzle flip. Damn those grips are huge.

[HiWayMan]

On another note. Anyone that thinks a shotgun is going to fold up an assailant would be well served to go deer hunting once. Out of twenty odd deer I've shot I only had one drop in its tracks. That was the one where my shot was so piss poor that I clipped its spine at the base of its neck. I still had to finish it with one to the vitals and it took what seemed like forever to bleed out. The other deer I,ve gotten, atleast those that have destroyed the heart and/or lungs have run upwards of 100 yds.

I use the deer comparison because they are quite antatomically similiar to humans. Organs are about the same size, muscle and bone structure is about equivalent as well.

[Dannyboy]

I'm ashamed to admit this but I once tried firing my 12ga SXS from the hip - ONCE!

You are not alone, my brother! I tried this with a buddy's SxS, with both barrels. Not the brightest thing I've ever done. Of course, it could have been worse...I could have fired both barrels from the shoulder...OUCH!

[spacemanspiff]

you havent truly lived until you take two shotguns, one against each shoulder and pull both triggers simultaneously.


oh yeah, lean forward.
:D

[BuckeyePPC]

I fired both barrels of my SxS 12 ga. coach gun at the same time once. Pulled both triggers slowly and both fired. Knocked me slightly off balance and ended up with a sore shoulder and sore jaw where my cheek was resting on the but all afternoon. I think the throbbing headache came about because of the blow to the jaw. It's just one of those things that had to be tried once and only once.

[Ktulu]

oh yeah, lean forward.

LOL!

[mack69]

Werewolf, way back when I was a kid in my 20's I shot a co-workers 44 magnum revolver ala Dirty Harry...I got 6 stitches in the top of my head for attempting to shoot that brute one hnaded like in the movies.

While we are talkin about movies...Am I the only one who notices that stuff ain't right?? A guy running into the alley with an semi auto pistolraking the slide then shooting the BG and coming out of the alley with a revolver!
Or Arnold in True Lies....flying a Harrier next to a building and then stepping up and out to help someone. Who is working the controls of the plane??

Or helicopter scenes in which the pilot is shooting or fighting or something else in the cockpit. I know a few chopper jocks...and even the best of em need full concentration to fly those things....and using both hands and feet to keep control.

Then there are the times when I was a kid and watching Bonanza...and seeing truck tire marks in the dirt road of the town...hehehee.

And don't get me started about the idiot gangbangers or other BG's in the movies that are side shooting their 45's...

And my 17 year old thinks he'll be a great shooter since he can aim and shoot bad guys in those oh so realistic puter/playstation games. I am still trying to get the rules laid out to him so he can get knocked on his keester the first time he shoots my GP100 .357 with a full load.....mack

[Edmond]

This same guy idolizes Danny Glover on the Lethal Weapon movies. I asked him what kind of revolver he was using in that movie. He said, "It looks like a S&W .40 cal. I said, "I didn't think the .40 cartridge came out until 90?"

Am I right? The S&@ .40 wasn't introduced until well after the first Lethal Weapon movie right?

Oh yeah, he seems to think that he can load a revolver with a speed loader faster than I can pop a mag into a semi auto. Those damn movies!:rolleyes:

[griz]

The screen is a powerful medium.

Years back when caller ID was becoming common, lots of people still thought it took two mintes for a phone call to be traced. That's how long it takes on TV.

At the insistance of a friend I watched Oliver Stone's film JFK. (I waited for it to hit television, no way would I pay for that) In it he states that one of the reasons that Oswald didn't fire all three shots is it can not be done in the six seconds available. Later in the movie it SHOWS three rounds being fired in LESS time!

Things like that don't bother me too much. What gets me is when congress, who should know better, starts making laws based on wrong headed public perseption.

[M67]

Werewolf, I'm ashamed to admit this but I once tried firing my 12ga SXS from the hip - ONCE!

I've never ever made that mistake again. My right hand and wrist were sore for a week. You probably held it too close to your hip so that your wrist was bent. Try holding it with your arm stretced out a bit in front of you, so you catch the recoil with the arm, not the wrist.

Come on fellas...
I can't be the only one here that tried a movie stunt??? Does clay pigeon shooting with one 12ga in each hand count? I distinctly remember getting the range master's permission as we were closing the range one day. Did I mention that I occasionally served as range master at a trap range when I was 18? I never hit a clay target one handed. I did however hit one or two from the hip, using both hands on the gun. I also made a couple of hits firing both barrels from the shoulder. One thing I've never tried though, is to fire both barrels at once while holding the gun in one hand. I wathced a shooting buddy do it and I took his word for it when he said that it was more painful than fun.

So how much have I grown up in the 18 years since then? A couple of weeks ago there was a thread here about shooting two handguns at once by hooking your thumbs together. Well, I sort of tried last week. I "cheated" by using two .22s so there wasn't a recoil problem. I loaded five rounds in each and took a second or two to look over the sights of each pistol to make sure they were pointed roughly at the same spot. I then pulled both triggers as fast as I could. Nine out of ten shots were inside 20 inches or so at 25 meters. So it's probably possible to learn this well enough to get a group rather than a pattern. But I don't see any practical application, other than "Hey y'all, watch this."

I don't really see a reason to be ashamed of stunts like that. It's just for fun and I always make sure that everything is safe. Stupid, but safe. And I don't confuse it with reality.

[RobW]

What gets me is when congress, who should know better, starts making laws based on wrong headed public perseption.
This is another bit of reality: politicos are NOT interested in the truth, they are interested in VOTES they can gain. Thus, wrong headed bublic perception doesn't matter as long as it secures re-election.

[Boats]

I wouldn't be so quick to scoff at the outside world, many of these misconceptions permeate the thinking on this board, albeit in a generally more sophisticated way. To wit:

The Capacity/Reload debate. There are countless threads discounting the use of a revolver as akin to Ludditism. Usually, these complaints center on a lack of capacity without any acknowledgement that people can and do get grand juries and civil lawsuits for capping off numerous rounds from their CCW. Recently a pizza guy zapped a baddie 15 times with a 9mm. The perp would have probably been just as dead with 5 .38sp, but the circumstances wouldn't have been as instantly suspicious. I view it as a Hollywood vision whenever I hear of someone CCW'ing a high cap blaster and more than one reload.

The Dirt Trap. Various handguns and rifles are touted or maligned for their performance in terms of "combativeness" in regards to neglect, abuse, and "extreme conditions." Given that by far the vast majority of us are nowehere near in good enough shape or frame of mind to deal with prolonged periods of neglect, abuse, or extreme conditions ourselves, I have to wonder where the relevance of "combativeness" comes in for the average shooter. I can only come back to Red Dawn, Max Max, The Road Warrior, Predator, and The Postman as references where this may even begin to matter at all to the typical owner. "I may not be able to take it, but by God, my gun certainly can!":D

I am sure there are many others, but my lunch has arrived.

[Edmond]

Given that by far the vast majority of us are nowehere near in good enough shape or frame of mind to deal with prolonged periods of neglect, abuse, or extreme conditions ourselves,

You're obviously not married!:D

[Werewolf]

Oh yeah, he seems to think that he can load a revolver with a speed loader faster than I can pop a mag into a semi auto. Those damn movies!

There's at least one guy who competes in IPSC in OKC with a revolver and I'm here to tell you that I've seen him load a revolver so quick that if you're not watching him do it but just listening to the shots you will not be able to tell when he's reloading. He is fast - really, really fast. He is way faster reloading his revolver than in my estimation 75% of the IPSC guys with pistols are reloading a mag and faster than probably 99% of the every day average shooter with whatever they're shooting.

The first time I shot IPSC I was so overwhelmed at how fast those guys shoot that I almost never went back. Well - I'm still overwhelmed at the speed those guys shoot and reload but I got over it and still occasionally compete (and get stomped - it's fun though - I am underwhelmed at the piss poor accuracy most IPSC shooters exhibit but then IPSC which is supposed to be about power, speed and accuracy is really more about speed and the scoring is heavily weighted in that direction IMO).

[killermarmot]

yeah arthurd and I triedd the two guns at once thing. Ihad my 22 neos in my weakhand and his 9mm glock 34 in my strong hand and about 15 aluminum cans at...say 8-10 yards. :D yeah i hit em....2 of em. :p but it sure did look cool

[Skunkabilly]

I know a guy who, if he could, said he would carry two .50 cal's and shoot them at the same time. For a guy who has never even held a .50 cal, I don't know why he talks like that.

Does he spray them with Teflon? :neener:

[mohican]

HiWayMan "On another note. Anyone that thinks a shotgun is going to fold up an assailant would be well served to go deer hunting once. Out of twenty odd deer I've shot I only had one drop in its tracks. That was the one where my shot was so piss poor that I clipped its spine at the base of its neck. I still had to finish it with one to the vitals and it took what seemed like forever to bleed out. The other deer I,ve gotten, atleast those that have destroyed the heart and/or lungs have run upwards of 100 yds.

I use the deer comparison because they are quite antatomically similiar to humans. Organs are about the same size, muscle and bone structure is about equivalent as well. "
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So true

I have found that two of the best shots to drop deer in a hurry is the neck shot, and to break the front shoulders

by the way, the neck shot deer isn't blead out like a heart shot deer because the heart is not receiving a message to keep pumping

Over the years I have lost several deer that I've felt were heart/lung shpt to road hunters. I've seen bright , frothy blood and known that I've hit lungs and tracked deer right to gut piles :fire: :cuss: I've learned in a hurry that the quickest way to drop a deer is to disrupt its CNS or disrupt the running gear, ala breaking front shoulders.

For something about how much a person moves when shot, watch the history channels show on the bulletproof vest. The (70s?) clips of the creator of SecondChance getting shot by a .357. He doesn't go back 10 feet, or leave his feet. I think he does take one step back :D

The only thing that I've shot that was really flung is groungdogs.

[griz]

politicos are NOT interested in the truth, they are interested in VOTES they can gain

I sure wish you were wrong but I know better. Almost any of our congress critters will tell you they have voted for bills they haven't read. Think about what that implies.

[Third_Rail]

I actually found that playing one of the more realistic (in terms of aiming) games on my computer has helped me understand how to better aim a weapon.

Stupid? Sure! Does it work? Yep.

My first 4 shots out of a real (read: not .22lr) gun (1917 in 30-06) were in the X ring.

[Jake]

" True or false...

I've read that due to the recoil on the Desert Eagles, the gun can have FTE or FTF problems?

That's what I read and I tried explaining to the guy that the recoil is so strong that the gun will FTE or FTF. "


True. If you limp-wrist a Desert Eagle you will have all kinds of problems with them. I've seen guys that couldn't get three rounds straight to feed properly in DE's but when they let someone who knew how to handle them shoot them they had no jams at all.

[yy]

i can attest to the effect of Television!:eek:

I received instructions for IPSC match to *not* point the pistol up like a charlie's angel.

then I proceeded to do a charlie's angel after the first shot. Must've been muscle memory from the last time I shot .44 mag in a range. For some reason it felt good to raise the revolver after each shot.


Wow, I couldn't believe how television programmed me.


I also received instructions to *not* point the pistol down when moving from shooting box to shooting box. Of course, this is what I do right after the charlie's angel.:what:

It was embarasing, but good to work that out of my system. But I worry when the next tv programming will appear and bite me in the rear

[1911Ron]

Did anyone else see Walking Tall when the Rock gives the girl the glock, and when she shoots it and runs out of ammo she keeps pulling the trigger and it keeps clicking like a double action:scrutiny:

[Average Guy]

Did anyone else see Walking Tall when the Rock gives the girl the glock, and when she shoots it and runs out of ammo she keeps pulling the trigger and it keeps clicking like a double action

I think that happens in Daredevil, too.

I particularly enjoyed a scene in X-Men 2: A squad of guys with nice rifles turns to see who's coming up behind them--and the guns DON'T all make cocking noises! I couldn't believe it.

[Boats]

Anyone who doesn't think video games can be a legitimate training aid had better tell the armed services quickly that they are going about it all wrong with simulators.

I find the Rainbow Six and Operation Flashpoint series to be the best of breed for us mere mortals because you can actually, almost comically easily, die in some pretty spectacular tactical FUBARs if you don't at least understand weapons selection, rudimentary small squad tactics, communications and coordination of timing one's strikes. These two titles are the only games I have ever played that were even remotely capable of recreating the intensity of the times I boarded/searched foreign flagged vessels while in the Navy.

What both series are generally missing (not all criticisms are applicable to both) are hand signals, horribly wrong intel, picking up enemy weapons, ammo, or gear in a pinch, and IR night optics combined with an ability to time attacks or create blackout conditions. Both also need to be way more reactive in enemy AI routines to be more fluid and more disorienting to more accurately capture the uncertainty of chaos and stress when facing an unscripted enemy. It will take at least three or four more generations of bleeding edge gaming computers to get a VR type combat experience comparable with force on force simulation, but they are getting closer every time out.

[Deavis]

he is so in love with that bling bling (its chromed) deagle, he has convinced himself its comfortable to shoot, even more than my 1911.

I've shot a 44Mag and 50AE DE and thought they felt better than some 1911's I've shot. The fact that gun is heavy and large, which fits my hand great, makes the recoil very manegable IMO. Never had a single problem shooting no matter how fast I emptied the magazine. As far as carrying, the guy who owns them regularly uses them to make concealed carry rigs for people all the time. They must be some big guys because that gun is tough to conceal.

[Destructo6]

I ran into a guy one time who said he carried an M60 with about a thousand rounds, an MP5 with about the same, and a shotgun with just a couple of hundred rounds. That was his "normal" combat load. Of course, he was instructing at BUD/S and had recently come from ST6 as "the word" went.
Oh yeah, he seems to think that he can load a revolver with a speed loader faster than I can pop a mag into a semi auto. Those damn movies!
Watch Jerry Miculek shoot sometime. Your acquaintance may not be able to do it, but Jerry can; it is amazing.

[Treylis]

i know a kid who had his mother buy him a "Desert Eagle point five o" solely because of the movie 'snatch'.

Wow, I wish I had a mom like that. Mine hates weapons of any kind, refuses to carry even pepper spray, and doesn't even know I own any guns, much less that I'm a gun and gun rights fanatic. ;-)

(My dad and stepmother are ever so much better. Stepfather is so-so.)

[Weimadog]

spacemanspiff
i know a kid who had his mother buy him a "Desert Eagle point five o" solely because of the movie 'snatch'.

and thats not all. he is so in love with that bling bling (its chromed) deagle, he has convinced himself its comfortable to shoot, even more than my 1911.

and just about the rest of his 'knowledge' about guns (that i've been trying to undo and reassimilate) comes from playing SOCOM.


That kid's cousin must live in Saint Louis. I saw a kid who must have been 15, with his first gun, a Desert Eagle .50 . His mother bought it for him, and ammunition:scrutiny:

Flinching could not describe what he did with that gun. He would shake so much before a shot, there were holes all over the B-27 target at seven yards. Really all over, as in one near the bottom, one in the shoulder, one near the target carrier. I think he must have missed it entirely a few times. Scarey.

A lot of people think Glock has to be 9mm, because so often in the movies they say "Glockninemillimeter".

[Tom Servo]

I know a guy who, if he could, said he would carry two .50 cal's and shoot them at the same time.
I could do that. I'd just be picking myself up after every shot.
And I imagine a visit to the chiropractor'd be in order shortly after. :D

[Average Guy]

A lot of people think Glock has to be 9mm, because so often in the movies they say "Glockninemillimeter".
I saw one of those trauma shows on TLC once, and a guy came in with GSW to the leg. They dug it out and showed it to his girlfriend, and she exclaimed, "That's a Glock, baby!"

I thought, "Hey, that's pretty good. Wish I could do that."

[entropy]

Two Barretts at once! : http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=838116
Like this maybe! http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=838279

You guys shooting both bbls. of a SxS at once: I used to water swat ducks this way; hurts, but the birds don't dive and latch on to weeds and are lost.:eek:

About shooting deer with a shotgun: Deer have not been psychologically conditioned since birth by TV to believe they should be blown 10 feet back and die instantly, like far too many sheeple have.:D

Deagles and FTE/FTF: whattya expect with a limp wrist! :rolleyes: If your wrist isn't limp, bear in mind they are very fussy on ammo power. Too much=FTE; Too little =FTF BTW, the .357 deagle feels like shooting a .22 auto, the .44 about like a .357 6" revolver, the .50 AE about like a stiff loaded .44 revolver. A fifteeen year old with an overindulgent mom shouldn't be shooting one. :scrutiny:

Safariland Comp II's and III's make reloads for revolvers as fast as autos, or more so, at least possible , if you train with them. HKS's make it quite a challenge.:(

M60: 23 Lbs.
1000 linked rounds M80 ball: @60 lbs
MP5: 8 lbs
1000 rds. 9mm (in mags) : @40 lbs
Combat Shotgun: 7 lbs
200 rds. 00 buck: @16 lbs
Total weapons+ammo=154 lbs
Exposing a bullsh**er: priceless!:evil:

[Tamara]

This same guy idolizes Danny Glover on the Lethal Weapon movies. I asked him what kind of revolver he was using in that movie. He said, "It looks like a S&W .40 cal. I said, "I didn't think the .40 cartridge came out until 90?"

More importantly, Smith never made any .40 S&W revolvers other than the stainless PC646 (a limited production run in '00) and the 646 (also stainless, and a run of 900 guns done as stocking dealer specials in '03.)

Danny Glover's character, being an LAPD detective, was probably using the S&W Model 15, a .38 Special Combat Masterpiece, which was the most common LAPD revolver back in the day, but it's been a while since I've seen the movie.

Else he had a time machine, came forward in time, got a 646, ground the underlug off, and painted the whole gun black. Yeah, that's the ticket... :D

[Wakal]

Tamara,

What about the Slick and Weasel model 610 in .40 S&W? I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of 'em out there, since one of my IPSC buddies has a matched set that he competes with (the bozo beats bottomfeeders now and then...we hate him ;) ). I like the 625 a bit better, but I digress...

Why, I thought a torso shot would pick a guy up and throw him five or ten yards back! You mean it ISN'T so?

:what:





Alex

[Destructo6]

M60: 23 Lbs.
1000 linked rounds M80 ball: @60 lbs
MP5: 8 lbs
1000 rds. 9mm (in mags) : @40 lbs
Combat Shotgun: 7 lbs
200 rds. 00 buck: @16 lbs
Total weapons+ammo=154 lbs
Exposing a bullsh**er: priceless!
Other than the fact that he was not BSing.

And considering the Average Emergency Approach March load is 128lbs and the Average Approach March load is 95lbs, it's not too diffucult to imagine a 6' 220lb STg adding another 20lbs.

[RevDisk]

M60: 23 Lbs.
1000 linked rounds M80 ball: @60 lbs
MP5: 8 lbs
1000 rds. 9mm (in mags) : @40 lbs
Combat Shotgun: 7 lbs
200 rds. 00 buck: @16 lbs
Total weapons+ammo=154 lbs
Exposing a bullsh**er: priceless


Ouch. If that guy really legged all that gear, I feel his pain.

A while back, I was the SAW gunner, had another SAW guy in my Plt. The other SAW gunner got severely twisted his leg during an exercise. In normal military logic, since I was the only other guy that knew the SAW inside and out... I had to leg two M249 SAW's and circa 2000 rounds of linked 5.56mm, in addition to my ruck filled with gear on a 20 mile road march. :fire:

I'd be willing to bet the combined weight of all the gear was WELL over 150 lbs. Probably closer to 200lb. To be honest, it was pure hell and I hope I never have to THAT again. :cuss:

(No, I was not stupid enough to try firing two SAW's at once. )



My biggest gripe about movie-reality confusion is that movies do not enforce the four rules of safety. Most importantly, muzzle sweeping and fingers on the trigger. If someone aims a gun at me and put his/her finger on the trigger, I tend to assume they're trying/going to shoot me whether intentional or not!

Reality does not have a rewind button, and the dead stay dead.

[GunGeek]

Oh yeah, he seems to think that he can load a revolver with a speed loader faster than I can pop a mag into a semi auto. Those damn movies!

I have also seen a few shooters who can really do this, but I'd never claim too!

[PromptCritical]

I have been having FTFs and FTEs in my Desert Eagle .44. I don't think I shoot it differently than I used to, as this has just started. Eh, I'll check next time I shoot it. By the way, it is chromed. But not the shiny kind. Bling bling pisses me off. Matte chrome just makes it stand out without being gaudy. And I can shoot it one handed fairly well.

The gun in Snatch was not a .50. Wrong size scope rail, fires eight rounds in one take, bad engraving imitation.

[Ant Mod]

Totally forgot I confused movies with reality once and paid for it in blood. I even posted about it.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53719&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

[Warren]

Based on it's effect in Tremors 4 I plan on carrying a sawed off punt gun as my carry weapon....or is this a bad idea?

[Treylis]

I saw one of those trauma shows on TLC once, and a guy came in with GSW to the leg. They dug it out and showed it to his girlfriend, and she exclaimed, "That's a Glock, baby!"

I thought, "Hey, that's pretty good. Wish I could do that."

I groan whenever I see such nonsense--they drag out a badly-deformed slug or whatever, and can instantly tell it's from a Glock. (And it's always from a Glock, it's always 9mm, etc., etc., etc.)

[halvey]

My wifes friend is like that. unfortunately, it's the "guns are bad" type of thinking.

[Average Guy]

http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/

The Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics page. A lot of good info on kinetic energy transfer (aka "stopping power" or "pushing a guy 20 feet out a window power").

[bill2]

Come on fellas...
I can't be the only one here that tried a movie stunt???
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I tried to pick up an unbelievably hot woman in a bar once, and she just laughed at me. Not at all what I'd been led to expect from action adventure movies.

[ScottsGT]

I've tried a few stunts I saw in a porn flick :D :evil: