DUD round stuck between cyl and barrel
lindcase
June 15, 2004, 08:35 PM
Has anyone had or know of someone who has fired an apparent DUD round that is jammed between the cylinder and the barrel? It just happened to me with my Vaquero! I fired 3 or 4 rounds, then heard “fud” and everything was locked up solid! I have never had a revolver not go bang when I pulled the trigger. Thats why I carry a revolver for personal protection. The semi-autos I have used have all failed to feed or extract at one time or another. But my revolvers have always worked. I know it was the ammo but I guess I figured a dud would just be a minor hiccup. Not jam up the works. Should I just bring it to a Gunsmith? Any thoughts?
Cliff
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critter
June 15, 2004, 08:39 PM
Sounds as if only the primer fired and the bullet is now hung in the forcing cone of the barrel. You need a rod of something like hard aluminum or brass just under bore size. (A wood dowel might work if it is not stuck too tight.) Place it in the barrel and tap the bullet backward till it clears enough to allow the cylinder to rotate. SLOW and CAREFUL is the key.
A smith can do it for you in a minute for minimal cost.
Dr.Rob
June 16, 2004, 02:43 AM
A smith willalso charge you extra $ for bringing in a loaded gun.
Try to tap it back with a dowel, if not, off to the smith it goes.
Sheldon
June 16, 2004, 04:41 AM
Been there and done that!! I just used a brass rod and tapped it back into the case enought to clear the gap.
444
June 16, 2004, 07:57 AM
Yes, I have done that.
It isn't a big deal at all.
Just tap it back into the cylinder with a dowel rod, cleaning rod, brass rod, squib rod, tree limb......................................................
If you want to get fancy, put some penetrating oil on it several minutes prior to pushing it out.
Fastlane
June 16, 2004, 08:40 AM
lindase:
Follow the advice that you have been given. But be VERY cautious with the ammo that you are using if that dud would have put the bullet in the barrel instead of the cylinder and barrel you could have had a serious problem if you would have fired the next round not knowing about the stuck bullet,
Bullet Bob
June 16, 2004, 02:50 PM
Been there, done that; because some idiot (me) wasn't careful when loading. Were your loads factory?
bountyhunter
June 16, 2004, 04:41 PM
After a while you will just acrry a squib stick in your range bag as part of the standard equipment. BTW: there was a bad batch of powder than went around a couple of years back and I got ammo lots with many squibs from several quality reload sources I use. I returned one lot and they replaced it: same problem. Luckily my trigger finger freezes automatically when I hear that funny "phssszzzt" sound a squib makes. I haven't fired into the back of one yet.
lindcase
June 16, 2004, 08:48 PM
Well thanks for the replies! I decided to try the wooden dowel aproach. I just happened to have a 7/16 pine dowel, fit just snug. Rather than spend much time on the wrong end of the muzzle, I held the gun as normal in my right hand with the cylinder in my left and lightly banged the dowel against my bench. After a dozen or so hits the cylinder freed right up. I removed the ammo and cylinder, inspected all and saw no damage. So now I have experienced a Sqiub. My first reaction was that my beautiful new Vaquero was junk. Thanks for the good advice.
Cliff
444
June 16, 2004, 09:47 PM
Not that this adds anything to the discussion and not that this is a good thing, and not that you should try this at home, but I have twice fired rounds into the back of a squib. Once in a Ruger PC9 9mm carbine, and in a S&W Model 27 I filled the barrel from end to end with bullets including one caught between the cylinder and the bore. It was completely uneventful.
The story behind the Model 27 is something that I have told on here on several occasions. Yes it was stupid, but not quite as stupid as you might think although it is close.
SouthpawShootr
June 16, 2004, 09:58 PM
in a S&W Model 27 I filled the barrel from end to end with bullets including one caught between the cylinder and the bore. It was completely uneventful.
That is incredible :what:. Never heard of that one before. Were they .357s or .38s? No damage to the gun? I'm going to have to look that one up. Bet you soiled your pants.
Found the thread and that answered my questions. Amazing the barrel didn't rupture (even just a little).
P95Carry
June 16, 2004, 10:06 PM
Many may have seen this pic but ... incredible how a barrel can ''fill-up'' .... I quite forget what barrel this was ... smg - HKMP5? - someone will know.
Here a bulge is more than evident.
444 .. you were lucky with your M27 .. I would say! :)
http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/thr/shoot4/multt-squib.jpg
444
June 16, 2004, 10:17 PM
Well I wasn't very lucky that it happened.
I guess I was lucky that it didn't damage the gun.
I couldn't clear the barrel myself. I had to send it to a gunsmith, with loaded ammo in the cylinder. According to him, the barrel was fine. He even shot it. If you can find the thread I mentioned however that I DID damage the barrel trying to get the bullets out and had the barrel replaced. Before replacing the barrel the gunsmith shot it and said it seem to shoot fine.
Bullet
June 18, 2004, 12:45 AM
I have used wood to remove stuck bullets before. Most of the time it worked except when the dowel broke off in the barrel and was stuck too. Now I use a brass rod.
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