Brass in the face?


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Kcustom45
June 17, 2004, 01:30 PM
I just recently bought a used Kimber Pro Carry that has ejected the brass straight back into the face of two different people who were shooting it. Both of them have only put a few magazines through the gun when it happened, but the weird thing is that it has never happened to me and I have definitely shot it the most.

Could the problem be the ammo, mags, gun, the way they are holding the gun, or any combination of the above?

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cerberus
June 17, 2004, 02:58 PM
I would look at the ejector many times they get damaged. I have a Ultra Carry II and it will send a few back in my face.

Mikul
June 17, 2004, 03:27 PM
I once tried to find the lightest load that would cycle my semi-auto. The lightest rounds always chucked the brass in my face.

cerberus
June 17, 2004, 03:52 PM
If you look at the Engineering numbers a Bee really should not be able to fly. I think it's the same for the small short bbl. 1911s they really should not cycle but somehow they do. Well some time they don't I think you get my drift.

halvey
June 17, 2004, 03:56 PM
This only happens to me with very light loads. Is the recoil spring old? They wear quick on the short guns.

cordex
June 17, 2004, 04:14 PM
Light loads? From Kcustom45's Dillon? Nahhh ... couldn't be! ;) (stinkin' 740fps 230gr isn't even fit to be called .45ACP)
If you look at the Engineering numbers a Bee really should not be able to fly.
Urban legend. (http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc97/3_29_97/mathland.htm)

Kcustom45
June 18, 2004, 12:05 AM
I'm only 2 tenths of a grain away from the max loading, and no I am not going to change to a different powder.

Could a 1/4" really make that much of a difference? I know a lot of 4.25" Colts that cycle very well.

1911Tuner
June 19, 2004, 05:48 PM
What's happening is that the brass isn't getting clear of the port in time, and the slide is bouncing it backward. The short pistols are grip-sensitive, which may be why your friends are gettin' beaned and you're not.

These things are hard to nail down sometimes...A recoil spring change might stop it OR start it...A slightly different angle on the nose of the ejector can make a big difference. The extractor tension can also be a player. If the tension is low, and the case isn't held firmly, it "rolls" with the punch when it smacks the ejector and doesn't get a good launch
out of the port.

'Bout all I can tell ya...Have your friends hold the gun tighter and see how it goes.

Luck!

Tuner

cordex
June 19, 2004, 06:05 PM
Nate,
I don't recall headbutting brass when I was shooting it. You'll have to let me shoot it some more and find out.

You folks see the lengths I'm willing to go to help a friend? I'm willing to go over to his house and shoot his guns just to help him diagnose a problem.

What are friends for, right?

1911Tuner
June 19, 2004, 06:11 PM
Cordex...yer a true blue pal!

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