[clipse]

My uncle who is a die hard gun rights guy told me the other day that I couldn't bring my bottle of Pepsi into his house because they support gun control.

Is this true?

A quick calculation showed that I spend almost $600 a year on Pepsi products just on my self. That doesn't even include what I drink in restaurants.



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[45crittergitter]

It's true, although I don't remember the details. Keep in mind that Pepsi owns a ton of restaurants also.

[buzz_knox]

It's true. A Pepsi distributor once tried to get my father to install one of their machines alongside the existing Coke machine. He refused, citing their anti gun stance. The distributor admitted it was true and Pepsi had lost business because of it.

[RoyG]

Pepsico (http://www.pepsico.com/) owns these brands:

Frito Lay
Tropicana
Quaker
Gatorade

And these restaurants:
Taco Bell
KFC
Pizza Hut

[ZeroX]

Regardless, I need my Pepsi!

[Chupacabra]

Doh!

Say it ain't so!

I LOVE Pepsi.

:mad:

:banghead:

[SodiumBenzoate]

I mostly drink Dr. Pepper and Coke anyway, so that's not really a problem.

But no KFC or Taco Bell?! :banghead:

[dev_null]

Is there some documentation for this support, or is it all just somebody's cousin's friend's sister's dog sez... ?

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[41mag]

Good grief!I was just sucking on a Mountain Dew![where's the soap?]

[BryanP]

How very odd. I worked for Pepsi for over 15 years (they are not currently my employer and I in no way speak for them in an official or unofficial capacity) and never once heard about any "anti-gun" stance. They have the standard "no firearms on company property" but that's an insurance thing.

Also, keep in mind that "Pepsi" covers a heck of a lot of territory. There's the parent company of PepsiCo, but there are also independantly owned franchise operations. I worked for both during my time and they are very different worlds.

[Henry Bowman]

PepsiCo no longer owns the restauraunts Pizza Hut, KFC or Taco Bell (though they still sell Pepsi products there). They are owned by Yum! Brands based in Louisville, KY. I would expect PepsiCo to be as gun neutral as possible. I have never heard anything substantiated to the contrary.

[SteveS]

My uncle who is a die hard gun rights guy told me the other day that I couldn't bring my bottle of Pepsi into his house because they support gun control.

I can understand some boycotts, but what will this accomplish? This just seems to be a little too much IMHO.

[BryanP]

A little digging online finds references as far back as some 1993 Usenet discussions, but nobody with any concrete information. The closest I found was someone who made some unsubstantiated claims that PepsiCo donated money to Feinstein and Boxer's campaigns (gee, a corporation donating money to a Senator's campaign, what a shock). The rest is "I heard" or "My uncle told me" type stuff.

In other words, complete BS until someone can substantiate otherwise. Show me an official press release, internal documents, something.

[clipse]

I can understand some boycotts, but what will this accomplish? This just seems to be a little too much IMHO.

It got my attention.

[Bubbles]

Pepsico allegedly contributed to a (Canadian-based?) group called "Coalition for Gun Control" in the past.

This reference is from 1994:
http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1994/09/msg00817.html

Pepsi may have "seen the light" a few years ago:
http://www.rrpc.org/nljun00.htm

Pepsi's not also on the NRA Blacklist.
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=15

[boofus]

That does it. No more pizza hut. Papa John's for me now.

[lee n. field]

I LOVE Pepsi.

Bleah!! Too sweeeeeet for me to drink anyway, unless I really, really need my caffeine fix.

[Reno]

That does it. No more pizza hut. Papa John's for me now.Ugh, don't do that to yourself. Try to find a good local place. They're almost always significantly better than the national chains.

[Stebalo]

Oh man. This sucks.

Quaker Oatmeal? How am I supposed to eat healthy? That stuff is the cornerstone to my healthy eating. I don't mind giving up things I dont' feel I should be eating anyway.

[BHPshooter]

Oh, MAAAAAN!!!

That means no more Mountain Dew!!! :( I LOVE Mountain Dew.

Wes:(

[clipse]

I absolutely love the new(last year) 'Live Wire' Mountain Dew.


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[BryanP]

Helloooooo? Unsubstantiated rumors. Are we going to start boycotting based on those now?

Hey, I heard that Wal Mart makes a small fortune on the side drowning puppies and selling the pelts. Let's all boycott Wal Mart

Oh, and Disney? Fully staffed with Communist Cannibal Satanists. Really. Heard it from my uncle's cousin's brother's nephew's roommate.

:rolleyes:

[thumbtack]

Hey, I heard that Wal Mart makes a small fortune on the side drowning puppies and selling the pelts. Let's all boycott Wal Mart

I have heard that also, I wonder if there is any truth to that? hmmm :scrutiny:

[matterhorn762]

According to that NRA list, these common companies also support gun control:

1. Ben and Jerry's
2. Blue Cross/Blue Shield
3. Hallmark
4. Levi Jeans
5. Southwest Bell
6. Sprint communications
7. Time Warner
8. Bell Atlantic

So I guess you would need to boycott all those too. What I'm saying is that it's not practical.

In other spoiling news, there's also many many actors on that list.

[clipse]

I was just curious if my uncle was correct. I guess since there is no real proof that it is true then I guess there is no reason to start a boycott.


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[TimH]

Quaker Oatmeal? How am I supposed to eat healthy? That stuff is the cornerstone to my healthy eating. I don't mind giving up things I dont' feel I should be eating anyway

Try the Walmart brand & "Doctor it up" a bit.

[A45acp1911]

"According to that NRA list, these common companies also support gun control:

1. Ben and Jerry's
2. Blue Cross/Blue Shield
3. Hallmark
4. Levi Jeans
5. Southwest Bell
6. Sprint communications
7. Time Warner
8. Bell Atlantic

So I guess you would need to boycott all those too. What I'm saying is that it's not practical.

In other spoiling news, there's also many many actors on that list."

I respectfully disagree, and could not do so more strenously. One can either live by their principles or compromise them. I don't like a particular brand of ice cream so much, for example, that I'm going to allow them to use *my* money to fight against me. Same goes with restaurants, particular lines of clothing, etc.

I feel much better living by my principles than telling myself why it's not practical to do so. Sometimes one must find a reason to do something important, rather than accepting all the reasons why they can't.

PJH

[citizen]

With the exception of local telephone service, I can PROUDLY claim to boycott ALL the above co's; including Pepsi......:D

[Michigander]

Ahh, if only we'd all boycott OPEC! :D

[Stebalo]

Ahh, if only we'd all boycott OPEC!

As a rule, I only buy my gasoline from Hess. None of their petroleum comes from the Middle East.

[ducktapehero]

I have been boycotting Pepsi for years. It has nothing to do with any of their politics. I just can't respect ANY company that would hire Micheal Jackson. :D

[hksw]

That does it. No more pizza hut. Papa John's for me now.

Please note Henry Bowman's post. Pepsi sold Pizza Hut long ago. I've been to a few Huts that sold Coke instead of Pepsi. Choice of beverage at the Huts is totally dependent on the owner's decision.

[ducktapehero]

Ugh, don't do that to yourself. Try to find a good local place. They're almost always significantly better than the national chains. Amen to that.

[Moparmike]

Heard it from my uncle's cousin's brother's nephew's roommate.Bryan, you got it wrong. Its "father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate."

</Spaceballs> :D ;)


Oh, and for those of us south of the Mason-Dixon line, Conoco and Flyin' J's are also non-OPEC oil, sans Venezuela, crude. And I understand that some of it is US oil.

[Realleycat]

Having worked 38 years for Coca-Cola, I view Pepsi as part of the "Evil" Empire :rolleyes: Besides their headquarted in NYC the Bastion of freedom.(Right) Coke is headquarted in Atlanta, a gun friendly state..

[sm]

Being a Southern Boy I have my loyalities :D

I used to work for a major Hospital, talk about politics - Pepsi got the contract. If an employee visually displayed "another product" from a Pepsi competitior, they would / could be written up and this placed in personal file.

Lots of folks brought their own lunch including sodas. In the main OR we had a HUGE fridge in our lounge. So we just removed the labels, or covered them up. At the time .75 a soda gets expensive, they are now $1.10.

The "blue" screw on lids do fit the "red" containers though...:p

Burden of proof on the "political" minded mgmt as to what the product was without the label and the "proper" color top, when they "inspected" various departments with pen and pads in hand.

Some of the Surgeons offered "free implants" of soda cans and bottles to many higher ups in this political /money deal.

[BryanP]

Bryan, you got it wrong. Its "father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate."
</Spaceballs> :D ;)


<Dark Helmet>
Who made that man a gunner!?!?
</Dark Helmet>

God I love that movie.

Tell ya what Mike, get back to me when you finish combing the desert. Oh, and don't forget to change the combination on your luggage. :)

[BryanP]

Having worked 38 years for Coca-Cola, I view Pepsi as part of the "Evil" Empire Besides their headquarted in NYC the Bastion of freedom.(Right) Coke is headquarted in Atlanta, a gun friendly state..

Hey Realleycat. Ha I say, ha! Our colors are red, white and blue, emphasizing the Blue, the colors of Freedom. Yours is Red and white, emphasis on Red, the color of Commies. :neener:

Seriously, Pepsi is a great company to work for. I suspect Coke is as well.

I know people who REALLY took the rivalry seriously. We called them Cola Warriors. I never really got worked up over it, but I do like to make the jokes. We referred to "The C-Word" as if it were profanity. Heck, we had a Coke-logoed speed-bag out in the warehouse for people to punch as they walked by. :evil:

For those who haven't been there, believe me - some people really get serious about it. When I worked for Pepsi it was frowned upon if you wore a red shirt. I heard the same was true at Coke regarding blue shirts. The conditioning works, though. After 15 years of working there I reflexively order Pepsi at restaurants even if I KNOW they serve Coke products.

Anyway, the anti-gun story about Pepsi is BS. Feel free to drink their products. Please. I don't work there anymore but my old 401K is still there.

[Realleycat]

I know people who REALLY took the rivalry seriously. We called them Cola Warriors. I never really got worked up over it, but I do like to make the jokes. We referred to "The C-Word" as if it were profanity. Heck, we had a Coke-logoed speed-bag out in the warehouse for people to punch as they walked by.

We had a punching bag with a Pepsi T shirt on it for the drivers to swing at on there way to the warehouse:D

I was on good terms with my "Friendly" competitors. Pepsi has a good product, but just not for me.

[13xx]

pepsi does not own pizza hut, tacobell, or kfc any more. they were sold in 1998 or 99 to tricon global which then putchased long john silvers and a&w rootbeer/hotdogs and more and then changed the name from tricon to yum brands..

[mfree]

Hospital doesn't allow other than PepsiCo products?

Out of the blue, anonymously walk in with several cheap coolers (on a hot day, of course) full of Coca-Cola and assorted products marked "free drinks".

Let's see how much the hospital staff appreciates that :)

[sturmruger]

Guys I need my daily Pepsi like some people need a Cig. I doubt I could last much more then a week without the refreshing tastes of my favorite Cola. I would never boycot pepsi unless they were start their own Renew the ban website or something similar.

[Feanaro]

For those who haven't been there, believe me - some people really get serious about it. When I worked for Pepsi it was frowned upon if you wore a red shirt. I heard the same was true at Coke regarding blue shirts. The conditioning works, though. After 15 years of working there I reflexively order Pepsi at restaurants even if I KNOW they serve Coke products.

I've actually seen two fellows, one working fore Coke and the other for Pepsi, duke it out. I didn't see the end of the fight... but I'm sure Coke won. :D

Anyways, I've sorta heard this before but never seen a source. And I've scoured the net, so you sissy Pepsi drinkers can kick back your sugar water without any worries. ;)

[Mark whiz]

I think ducktapehero has it right....................................

even IF Pepsi has no anti-gun leanings........................

They DID Sponser Micheal Jackson and STILL Sponser that wuss Jeff Gordon.......................that's ALL the reason I need to boycott them! :what: :uhoh:

[BryanP]

... and STILL Sponser that wuss Jeff Gordon.

I'm not a NASCAR fan but I've always wondered about why people dislike Gordon. Because he's not "country" enough? Because he's a pretty-boy who goes out and wins? And wins. And wins. And wins ... :neener:

[buzz_knox]

He's an arrogant little punk who promoted his religion when he was winning and then turned his back on it and insulted it when he lost.

[c_yeager]

When i worked at a grocery store i found that the distributers for coke and pepsi could get pretty nasty when it came to fighting over shelf space. I had to pick up one or the other's product off the floor if it so much as hinted at crossing the border b/t the two. We solved the problem by putting all the "Royal Crown" type products inbetween them. Those RC guys couldnt care less where their product went, they just wanted to set it up and go home.

[halvey]

According to that NRA list, these common companies also support gun control:

1. Ben and Jerry's
2. Blue Cross/Blue Shield
3. Hallmark
4. Levi Jeans
5. Southwest Bell
6. Sprint communications
7. Time Warner
8. Bell Atlantic

So I guess you would need to boycott all those too. What I'm saying is that it's not practical.

In other spoiling news, there's also many many actors on that list.
Why give your money to these companies when there are way better alternatives? Who cares if it's not practical? That's why the left wins and we lose on so many fronts. As far as the actors, big deal; there's way more to do instead of watching people do something.

[buzz_knox]

I actually do boycott all those. The only hitch is my girlfriend loves Ben and Jerry's. But, I'm working on that one.

[Red_SC]

Quoted from THIS LINK (http://www.rrpc.org/nljun00.htm) in Bubble's post:

Around 350 people attended the banquet from the Salvation Army and community leaders. Among the people present were representatives of the local banks, insurance, governments and the major business. Also present was the guest speaker who is the C.E.O. of PepsiCo (Pepsi, Taco bell, Pizza Hut, etc.)

I was especially proud to have our club announced to be a leader in fundraising with this person present because PepsiCo used to be a major contributor to gun control causes.



This event took place on March 28, 2000 at the Rivanna Rifle and Pistol Club. So, whatever stance PepsiCo used to have, it looks like they're pro-RKBA now. Which is very good, 'cause Mello Yello just can't compare to good pure Mountain Dew.:evil: (ducking under my desk)

[Hemicuda]

Goot thing I drink Coke... Poopsie is WAY too sweet... (though the occasional Mountain Dew used to please me...)

so I'll just stick W/ coke...

[themic]

food for thought:

for a boycott to be effective the corporation needs to know how much and why it's losing sales.

it's one thing for a corporation to be a staunch political machine. it's another to have given some money to some organization at some point, probably because it used it to mkae headway into some business deal.

frankly, to me, pepsi is in the business of doing business, and the prevalence and activity towards gun control has not been sufficiently shown for me to change my drinking habits.

i am probably hereby deemed a sinner, but imo it's a soda.

[BluesBear]

Actually PepsiCo sold off it's interests in Pizza Hut Taco Bell and Kentucky Fried Chicken about 10 years ago.

Tri-Con Global Corp. became the parent company of all three.

A few years ago after they acquired A&W and Long John Silvers they changed their corporate name to Yum! Brands. :rolleyes:

I did a lot of business with Tri-Con years ago and I never was aware of any anti-gun leanings around the Home Office. In fact I went shooting with several of the people from R&D and Marketing.