[Carbon_15]

I had one of these on my old mossberg and much prefered it to the receiver mounted sidesaddle. It was made of plastic not elastic and worked quite well. I want one for my new HK/Fabarm, but can't seem to remember where I ordered it from. Anyone know an online source for them?
Thanks
Jason

[HSMITH]

Although you did ask for commentary this is my most hated accessory, so I would like to point out that if you cannot shoot the shotgun comfortably and normally from your weak side with this gadget mounted you should shootcan the whole thing. The sidesaddle has a huge advantage in this regard. You could not give me one of the buttcuff shellholder gizmos.

Just my opinion.

[CWL]

Can't you just mount a sidesaddle directly onto your buttstock? All you need to do is to drill & mount dontcha? Or you can drill, insert & glue metal nuts into buttstock for better long-term retention of sidesaddle.

[Dave McCracken]

Midway carries them.

I'm with H on this(as oft happens). "Serious" shotguns may need to be operated sinistrally. These would hamper that.

[ChristopherG]

Sinistrally. You made my day, Dave.
cg

[Carbon_15]

Thanks for the input guys. I tried the normal receiver mounted sidesaddle a few years ago, but found that it really ruined the natural point of the shotgun (for me). Sounds backwards since the weight is centered over the receiver but think about it. When I train/practice with my HD shotgun, I carry it at portarms (stock against shoulder, barrel down at a 45* angle). The further back the extra shells are on the gun, the less they affect the upward swing to bring the weapon on target. With the weight of the extras moved up to the receiver, it caused me to shoot high (snap shots anyway). Having the extra shells as far back as possible just made the gun point shoot more natural for me. Plus, I found it easier to reload with my right (trigger) hand as opposed to my support hand).
Shooting left-handed with my old rig wasn't much of a problem. I couldn't shoot nearly as well left handed (with or without the shell holder) but using some homemade techniques, I could get off a few aimed shots southpaw.

[HSMITH]

Always reload with your support hand, you can still engage one handed as long as you have your trigger hand firmly on the weapon. If you take your trigger hand off you are left with a really poor example of a club, and a bad hold on the club.

One more shot beats the heck out of no more shots. By the time that shot is off your support hand will be back on the weapon to shoot or it will have another loaded and ready.

[Dave McCracken]

Right again,H. The support hand method is the better one,IMO.That one shot may be what's needed.

Instead of changing the hardware,15, how about training? And, while lots of us have some kind of ammo carrier on us or the weapon,the fact remains that almost all HD crises are resolved with a round or two. Criminals have no concept of acceptable casualty rates. CD, Police and military usage needs more shells, of course...

Let's say that your HD tool has 6+1 capacity, and like me you download the magazine by one round and leave the chamber empty, cruiser ready. You've still 5 rounds for immediate use.

Or, no mag extension, full to capacity. 4 on hand, and an easy top off after chambering the first one.

Also, back when I was militarized, "Port Arms' had the butt down by the right hip, the muzzle up near my left ear. What you describe is better known as a variant of Low Ready. It's a good position, whatever the nomenclature.

I'va hunch that all you need to make this work ambidextrously(CG,that's sinistrally and dextrally) is a bit of work. Try it out and let us know after, please.

Thanks....

[Correia]

I'm going to go against the tide on this one. I have an elastic shell carrier on the stock of my 870. I usually use it to hold my slugs.

I can still shoot left handed just fine. Also reloading with the support hand is not problem. Keep the gun mounted, reach up and pluck out the shells you need and shove them in the tube. Simple.

[ACP]

I'm with Carbon on this one. I've had both on my Mossberg 500 and prefer the Uncle Mike's elastic butt cuff.

[EJ]

The elastic and leather/velcro units come off easily and can be removed in the case of a weak side need--

[Mannlicher]

For me, the best arrangement is the Speed Loader stock, or whatever they call it, that came with my Mossberg 590. I like the shells carried in the butt stock slots.

On my other Mossbergs, the 20 ga and the other 12, I use elastic butt stock sleeves, that hold 6 rounds. I do not see the elastic carrier as an impediment at all.

[Andrew Wyatt]

I prefer the butt cuff style of ammunition carrier to the sidesaddle.


I don't have any problems operating it left or right handed, since i load the shotgun from the butt cuff when i go to use (it the shotgun is kept unloaded with a full buttcuff because there are little ones around), leaving it empty.



sidesaddles interfere with my ability to use barracades for support, because the side saddle is right on the side of the reciever that interfaces with the wall.