[71Commander]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/22/iraq.hostage/index.html


A bad day. :fire:

[Sindawe]

but not really a suprise, is it? This has become SOP for Islamic fundimentalists in Iraq and elsewhere.

[tyme]

No surprise. Once they kidnap someone, the chances of the victim's country of citizenship giving into any demands are practically zero. The kidnappers can't let the victim go, because then they'd lose all bargaining credibility. In the status quo, they have bargaining credibility: we know they'll go through with it. That credibility just isn't enough to motivate countries to do anything about it because the stakes are too high.

The only option for terrorists (besides giving up) is to keep killing people until the stakes of not acceding to the terrorists' demands are also "too high." That's going to require killing a lot more people. I have no doubt they'll try, whether it's kidnapping contractors from Iraq individually or blowing up a few more buildings here in the U.S.

[Ex-MA Hole]

...shuckin' fame...

[El Tejon]

The Base may be sorry if the ROK Marines are assigned vengence detail.:uhoh:

[Rebar]

What suprises me is that, apparently, the South Korean people are blaming America for this, and want our forces out of Korea? What sense does that make?

[HankB]

And some would have us negotiate with the animals that did this. :cuss: :barf:

[Cacique500]

We need Pershing and a donation from Smithfield Hams...

[Partisan Ranger]

I only hope the South Koreans aren't crippled by political correctness like we are.

I would love to see the Korean troops go on a killing rampage in Falluja. No targeting civilians, but take the gloves off.

[Langenator]

Evil cannot be bargained with or reasoned with. You can only kill the bastards.

[Henry Bowman]

Last I heard yesterday, S. Korea said that they would not send the 3000 troops to Irac per the terrorists' demand. Guess they didn't get the word. :cuss:

[71Commander]

Last I heard yesterday, S. Korea said that they would not send the 3000 troops to Irac per the terrorists' demand. Guess they didn't get the word


If this is true (and I don't doubt you:) ), then any further hostage demands are useless in any kidnapping in the future. The end result will be the same regardless.:banghead:

[OF]

Last I heard yesterday, S. Korea said that they would not send the 3000 troops to Irac per the terrorists' demand.Corroboration for this? This is the exact opposite of what I have heard.

- Gabe

[armoredman]

Yes, I had heard on the news that S Korea said they would NOT kowtow to the kidnappers, and that thier troops would be enroute to Iraq. ROK will have a few things to "discuss" with thier Iraqui "hosts".

[Henry Bowman]

My source of information was CBS radio news during my drive home after work yesterday. Heard it twice. It sounded odd to me both times. I'd guess that CBS got it wrong or simply stated it backward or something.

Either way, the guy's dead and was probably going to end up that way no matter what.

[alan]

Did this ending surprise anyone? When dealing with savages, what is one to expect other than such acts?

[Bridger]

I hope any future hostages remember this and the others. Hopefully they will fight back or escape like that truck driver did.

[HankB]

You know, it's dangerous enough to be in Iraq with helmet, vest, loaded M16, sidearm, and grenades in your kit.

Being there by choice - UNARMED - is just begging to win a Darwin award.

And the response I'd favor would be decidedly un-PC.

[stevelyn]

Methinks the terrorist have royally screwed the pooch on this one.
The ROK military is not one to be messed with when they are thrown into the mix. The North Vietnamese and Viet Cong were absolutely terrified of the ROKs.

[R.H. Lee]

It looks like we're taking a page outta the Israeli's book:

Militants in Iraq behead South Korean hostage, then U.S. launches airstrike on safehouse (http://www.boston.com/dailynews/174/world/Militants_in_Iraq_behead_South:.shtml)

'bout time

[Bulldozer]

Bury the b***ds neck deep in a pig pen and then feed the swine. Neglect to clean pens for about a week.

Iblis welcomes you.

[alan]

Respecting the small number of foregners wqho have been killed by these nut cases in Iraq, a lot more of the "locals have bitten the dust. No doubt, the locals might be getting annoyed at this.

Now then, the locals either know or have a pretty good idea, at least in some cases, concerning who the "bomb throwers" are, who the people with a "funny accent" are, and who the "strangers" are.

In some cases, they have come forth with information, though in more cases, they haven't. At some point, this might change. Until then, anyone who willing goes to that part of the world to work, the money is quite good, and goes unarmed, is just plain dumb, and deserves no sympathy.

As for such role as the U.S. might play in Iraq, we might tell the people, in plain "kitchen Arabic", that they can either help, or we will leave forthwith, and they can stew in their own juices, assuming that they choose to stand mute. They can then enjoy life and death, with their "bomb throwers", while we watch, from a distance. Let's see what their clerics, of whom they seem to have an endless supply, can do to fix problems.

[WilderBill]

If I recall, in Viet Nam, the Koreans response to an ambuse was to first kill everyone directly involved and then start on all the nearest villages on the assumption that they must have been involved.
They don't seem to be overly held back by any visions political correctness or anything else.

Kind of their way of saying "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem".

Once the Iraqi people understand how that plays out, they may decide they don't want any outsiders in their neighborhoods.

On a somewhat related note; I read that the Afgan army beheaded four terrorists in response to an ambush yesterday.
The local US forces working with them shook their fingers at them and scolded them severly.
:D

[Rebar]

I think a good tactic would be to tell the terrorists, "if you don't let our people go, we'll send DOUBLE the amount of troops, and if you do it again, we'll DOUBLE that too".

[UnknownSailor]

Like I said in the thread when Richard Berg was beheaded, I hope all contractors working in this neck of the woods now understand that meekly going with your abductors and buying your way out later is no longer an option.

If you're going to go down anyway, why not go down hard, and maybe take a few of your attempted aductors with you?

At least, that would be my attitude, were I to be a contractor working in that area.