My Power Extractor broke!


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Ric
June 28, 2004, 09:22 PM
ILast week I bought a 7.45 LDA from Para and when I took it to the range with 200 rounds of Winchester white box it shot 119 rounds then failed to eject :confused: :scrutiny:
I locked the slide back and dropped the magazine and out comes the extractor in three pieces:mad:
I called Para today and told them about it and they said that it was "unusual" Duh
Here's the kicker; I have to pay to ship it to them for repair. They gave me shipping instructions and then told me to ship it UPS. When I send a 627 back to Smith & Wesson they mailed me a shipping label and I called to arrange a pickup, never had to leave the house.
So I sent it UPS ($42) but I won't be taking the $99 night sight offer.

But you know until it broke, this little gun was really impressing me with its accuracy and fit. It shot great (right up until the extractor broke)

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Jim Watson
June 28, 2004, 09:45 PM
You are being ripped off.
They sent the guy in this thread two spares NC, no need to send the gun back.
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=86322

I think the design good but apparently they could not resist the temptation to MIM the complex shape of the hook. Boo, hiss.

wally
June 28, 2004, 10:39 PM
I think the design good but apparently they could not resist the temptation to MIM the complex shape of the hook. Boo, hiss.

I think the extractor as originally designed by JMB is more than good enough if made as he specified. When you cut cornors crap results no matter who designed it!

--wally.

waktasz
June 29, 2004, 01:57 AM
You don't have to ship overnight. 2nd day air works too, and way less than $42. Sucks that your gun broke though, I feel for you.

WonderNine
June 29, 2004, 04:20 AM
Another happy Para customer.

stans
June 29, 2004, 06:53 AM
John Moses Browning designed the extractor to be a flat spring and the proper material is spring steel. If manufacturers would take the time and money to make them this way we would not be seeing all these broken extractors. I know MIM is cheap, but makes a poor spring, so to use MIM a new extractor design is required, then it still breaks and has to be replaced. Are manufacturers really saving any money?

1911Tuner
June 29, 2004, 11:19 AM
Ah well. back to the drawin' board...:rolleyes:

Wonder why, after all these years that these guys with new innovative ideas don't just throw in the towel and admit that John Moses really
did know what he was doin. Just make the freakin' things outta 1090 and
temper'em! It ain't rocket science! They could do it in 1912 fer cryin' out loud!

Guess it pisses'em off that they can't outsmart a guy born in the middle
of the 19th century.

JEEEEZ! Enough with the extractors already...Make'em outta the right stuff
and they'll work.

Tuner

R.H. Lee
June 29, 2004, 11:21 AM
Sounds like your quality control testing is better than theirs. Tell them that.

Mil Novecientos Once
June 29, 2004, 11:31 AM
The new Para Power ExtractorTM 1911 is the 21st century incarnation of the world’s greatest pistol. Now, Para’s patent pending Power Extractor eliminates the weakest link in the original design of this great pistol. The new Para Power Extractor is a massive claw that gives you 50 percent more contact with the rim of the .45 ACP case for controlled feeding of the cartridge from the magazine into the chamber and positive extraction for infallible ejection of the empty case.
:rolleyes:

BluesBear
June 30, 2004, 09:27 AM
Para’s patent pending Power Extractor eliminates the weakest link in the original design of this great pistol. They said they eliminated it, not that they made it better.


Just another case of trying to fix something that ain't really broke.

Or is it a case of fixing something that somebody else already fixed?



It reminds me of the sign in the old garage.

LABOR RATES:

per hour $20

If you watch $25

If you help $35

If you try to supervise $50

If you fixed it first $100!

anapex
June 30, 2004, 01:20 PM
Guess that answers the questions I had earlier about the power extractor!

halvey
June 30, 2004, 01:36 PM
Just another case of trying to fix something that ain't really broke. Like the LDA trigger?;)

Sean Smith
June 30, 2004, 01:44 PM
Para made a copy of the AFTEC using cheap materials, and got the same result as when they made a copy of the Browning-design extractor using cheap materials. Go figure. :D

Zeke Menuar
June 30, 2004, 08:53 PM
The original extractor design wasn't broken. It didn't need to be fixed or redesigned.

Just another useless gun gimmick.

ZM

HD
July 1, 2004, 09:41 AM
repeat until you understand it !!!!
everyone who buys a para from our local dealer gets rid of it within 2-6 weeks after purchase ...
they are now a special order only item...
don't buy any canuck products and you'll do well...

George Hill
July 1, 2004, 04:33 PM
My first thought when I first saw this thread:
"That didn't take long."

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