rjk2475
February 13, 2003, 05:16 PM
please tell me the pros and cons of this gun. what's a good price? ron
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rjk2475 February 13, 2003, 05:16 PM please tell me the pros and cons of this gun. what's a good price? ron
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goon February 13, 2003, 05:34 PM Are you talking about their M-48 8mm mausers? If so, get one for $100 less from somewhere else. Those guys are charging way too much. rjk2475 February 13, 2003, 05:56 PM goon: $100 less than what? Guyon February 13, 2003, 06:17 PM Overpriced. Pick up a copy of Shotgun News and compare prices. Jack19 February 13, 2003, 06:32 PM What Guyon said. I got two M48As in excellent plus condition for much less than what Mitchell's wants for one. Pick up a shotgun news. 444 February 13, 2003, 06:45 PM "goon: $100 less than what?" $100 total. Mitchells Mausers has great guns. The problem is that you can get the same gun for a fraction of the price. As was mentioned, get a copy of the Shotgun News and have your dealer order you one from there. Every Yugo Mauser I have ever seen is in pristine condition. spacemanspiff February 13, 2003, 07:13 PM here is a quote from this website: http://www.surplusrifle.com/yugom48/index.asp Yugoslavia produced quite a few of these rifles that now have been brought to the surplus market in New to Like New condition. These 8mm rifles are excellent little shooters that are well made and offer a unique opportunity to the shooter and collector to purchase a Like New variant of the very dependable and well made Mauser 98k. The M48 is a little shorter in overall length in the barrel and the overall length of the rifle in comparison to the original German 98k it is modeled after. Manufactured all of the way into the 50's they became obsolete with the onset of the Semi-Automatic battle rifle. So they were packed up and stored away for the past 50 years. The Yugoslav M48 Mauser rifle was manufactured from 1950-65 at the Zavodi Crvena Zastava (Red Banner Works. Zastava was known as "Preduzece 44"--meaning Enterprise 44, from 1945-52. In 1952 it was renamed Red Banner Works.) The M48 series came in four versions--the M48 (all milled parts) M48A (stamped magazine floorplate) M48B (increased use of stamped parts) and the comparatively rare M48BO (the BO=bez oznake, meaning "without markings.") The M48BO versions were new manufactured M48s as well as numerous captured, reconditioned and "scrubbed" German Kar 98k rifles (sometimes the latter were called M98/48N, the "N" standing for "Njemac," which is Serbo-Croat for "German.") The M48B/M48BO versions were made chiefly for export--and most of these were sent to Egypt, Iran and Algeria. (contributed by Michael E. Kreca) BenW February 13, 2003, 07:15 PM It seems to be hard to get a bad Yugo right now. I have a Select 48A from CDNN that is pristine and cost $110, and a 48 Good from Century which showed up as a Very Good for $85. Jim K February 13, 2003, 07:44 PM The M48/M48A are good rifles of themselves, but they are not K98k's. The receiver is shorter than the standard Model 98 receiver, which may present problems with parts and with accessories like sporter stocks and scope mounts. Also, the Yugos did refurbish ex-German K98k's. But as I posted on another thread about the M48/M48A rifles, "Some advertisers try to confuse the buyer into thinking that the M48 is a K98k. It is not a K98k; it is not German; it is not WWII; it is not historical." If this sounds like anyone you know, take a word to the wise. Jim spacemanspiff February 13, 2003, 07:55 PM to echo what jim is saying, other online sources have had very negative things to say, although they wouldnt say specifically who they were referring to, regarding the confusing sales pitch that is given for the M48/M48a. you have to look closely at a phrase that says "Unissued WWII" and "manufactured after the war", and dont forget "preserved by a fluke error" or something along those lines. i recall seeing an ad for a Mauser in one of the gunnyrags, then i saw the same thing on an auction for $100 cheaper. i still have yet to find out if my Mauser is a M98 (original K98k put through the Yugo factories to remove german markings) or a M48. 444 February 13, 2003, 08:01 PM Jim, I know what you are saying (about the confusing sales pitch) and I agree, but let's not steer anyone away from this fine rifle. The M48 isn't a K98 but that doesn't mean it isn't a great rifle. I have both, along with a half dozen other Mausers but I enjoy my Yugo the most. The fact that it doesn't have the history behind it that the other ones do is one reason. I am not afraid to take it out and lay it on the backseat for a little off road driving. I didn't feel bad about putting a MOJO sight on it or the Timmney trigger. They are terrific rifles in their own right. goon February 13, 2003, 08:23 PM I just got my M-48 last week, now I gotta get some ammo for it. Any of you guys know where I can find some Noncorosive Mil-Surp ammo? As far as the price, I was referring to the Egyptian M-48's, the ones without markings. I have checked out a couple at a local shop. The guy wants too much for them, but they would still be worth it. I just know that I can get them cheaper with my C&R. I have seen them for $199, and I think that the ones from Mitchell's run around $350-$400. Rjk2475- If you would be willing to pay $239 for one and drive to Clearfield, Bob's Army/Navy has a couple of Egyptians. They are nice, but I would just as soon use my C&R to get mine when I get the urge. I think I want a No4 Enfield first. But I still need ammo for the one I just got. rjk2475 February 13, 2003, 08:34 PM goon: now a can of worms just openned. how do you decide between a m48, k98, or an enfield? rjk goon February 13, 2003, 08:59 PM You really can't just decide. It really isn't a decision as much as putting some off a little longer than others. I already have two Mosin Nagants and an M-48, so now I am gonna go Enfield. Then the cycle starts again. I like the MN better than the M-48. They just have better balance, and I like the sights on the Russians better. My Finn is a little heavier and the sights are not as fine, but it is of exceptional quality. I think I like it best. And the way that you can feel the mechanics of the MN when you work the bolt is just cool. Basically, you just gotta handle them, play with them, shoot someone else's if you get the chance and try to decide what works best for you. BTW- Bob's also has a M91/30 MN for $129. It isn't as nice as mine, but it would be a good shooter. About 85% bluing and 80% wood. I have thought about buying it as well, but I already have two, and my tax refund has already been spoken for. In the last two months, I have acquired five guns. I have to be stopped. :D 444 February 13, 2003, 09:10 PM You need to seriously consider the Schmit-Rubin K31. This is the king of the C&R Milsurp rifles. I haven't shot it as much as I have my other milsurps, but it has already proven itself to me. I took second in this month's military bolt action rifle match. I should have won. I will spare you the excuses but a few key mistakes on my part cost me the win; by one point. The furthest target was 400 yards (my estimate, no one knew the distances, you estimate and dial in your sight dope) and I hit it every time. Today I gave it a real detailed cleaning including removing the stock and giving it a good rubbing down with BLO and giving the sling a dressing with neatsfoot oil. My M39 is a very close second, but I have to say this K31 is my new go-to milsurp. fallingblock February 14, 2003, 03:43 AM Those Swiss K-31's are so beautifully-made:) And most of 'em shoot like it, too:D Grab one while you can.
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