Turner 1907-style slings are very good. I've got them on several rifles, including the one I use for Highpower. For that purpose, leather is good, but it seems the synthetics work even better, as they tend to slip less and won't stretch over time.
That being said, several people whose opinions I respect are fans of the Les Tam slings... even more than the Turners. I can't comment on them directly since I've never used one... but the next one I order will probably be a Les Tam.
July 3, 2004, 01:32 AM
Kinda depends on what kind of weapon and what your purpose is.
For something like the AR-15 family, my own military experience has led me to eschew slings and think that a good piece of pcht shroud line or, a little cusher, a piece of cargo pcht shroud line, works when you must free your hands, but encourages you to keep a weapon in your hands in the field and not slung. Worked great with a tension knot on so that the sling ran alongside the rear sight in the carry handle of a CAR-15. Probably less efficient with the standard stock and the flat tops that are so popular, but I haven't really given that much thought since I don't pay for paramilitary weapons out of my own pocket.
For a hunting rifles, I prefer a good carry strap of cotton webbing, though most of the better ones come with leather end pieces which I think, personally, is self defeating. Several outfits offer them in various quality. I bought mine overseas, but, if I remember, correctly they are pictured in GunList and SCI's magazine from various suppliers to the Bwana Mkubwa boys. For the hunting I do and have done, I've just had more interest in an accurate and fast first shot and haven't found slinging up to be the...ahhh...appropriate response. All the more so, since I prefer barrel band swivels and don't want to worry about variations in POI with tight sling and without.
For a classic military shooting sling, I don't really know since I don't use them much and what I have are period military slings. Turner's currently seem popular, but I haven't paid enough attention to know.
Hoping this purely personal comment is helpful...
July 3, 2004, 02:47 AM
For carrying, I really like a good 3-point sling, like those from CQB Solutions.
July 3, 2004, 10:36 AM
If using it for hunting, probably a Ching Sling.
If using it for rifle matches, either a Turner sling or a good cotton web sling.
I just got a Carlos Hathcock sling from Turners. Very nice and I hope some royalties are going to his family (I just thought of that, I should have asked when I ordered). Kind of like getting a Mickey Mantle glove from Rawlings.
July 3, 2004, 10:44 AM
The best 1907 type slings are made by Turner Saddlery and Les Tam.
I own three of Les Tam's creations. Two are standard length 1907's and are used on my M1's, the third is 2" longer for my AR.
Mr. Tam's slings are individually custom made. He refuses to take mail orders without FIRST having talked to you over the phone to discuss EXACTLY how you want it made. You have many choices available regarding color, length, keepers made for 2 or 3 layers (above or below the frogs), and stitched or rivetted. He also stamps military logos, dates, and Monograms on the straps at your instructions. VERY good stuff, Maynard. :D
Best to all,
July 3, 2004, 12:16 PM
While we are on the subject of slings, I've been having some problems with mine. It's a 54" Turner from the CMP which I picked up with my Garand. I've went over the instructions for sling use over on Fulton Armory's site, and (with much colourful language, but no feather dusters) managed to get it on my arm in what seems to be the proper fashion. Only problem is it's too loose; it's not providing any more support than I would have just holding the rifle to my shoulder with no sling at all. Is this (as I have guessed) a matter of having a too-long sling for the rifle? Can it be compensated for, or should I save this one for whenever I get an AR and order a new sling at the standard length?
July 3, 2004, 02:07 PM
From the way you word your post I'm assuming that you are referring to shooting from standing position ????
Unless you have it rigged as a "hasty sling", a 1907 type sling gives you nothing in the standing position that a commercial carrying strap (aka "sling") does.
The 1907 sling give positional support only when used in the sitting and prone positions. This is where the tension provided by the sling complements the bone support given by the position itself. Standing gives you no real bone support that a sling can complement.
Indeed, NRA and CMP rules both state the the sling may NOT be used in a supporting role while firing the standing position. It must be attached to the rifle, but may not give any form of support to the rifle while shooting.
When shooting from sitting and prone positions the sling can be made as tight as necessary. That's what all those holes are for... moving the frog to the best support location.
July 3, 2004, 08:31 PM
The Ching Sling for most rifles.
July 3, 2004, 08:57 PM
For Hunting I prefer the Safari Slings.
Like here at Cabelas (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/horizontal-item.jhtml?id=0005803220723a&navCount=0&cmCat=srchdx&cm_ven=srchdx&cm_ite=srchdx)
But they aren't leather.
July 3, 2004, 09:46 PM
I use a 1907 style leather sling on my hunting rifle... makes a big difference in stability.
Funny, I even have one on my Marlin 995... for squirrels and such.
And it's the ONLY kind of sling I own.... you should see the funny looks I get when it's mounted on my 870.
July 3, 2004, 09:47 PM
Boyt Harness Company makes some of the finest leather products you'll find...they were contractors for slings and other leather goods during WWI & WWII.
Boyt expanded its line of leather products for the first time during World War I, when it contracted with the United States Government to supply leather goods to the American forces fighting overseas. These initial military contracts includes Boyt’s first production run of gun cases, holsters and rifle slings. At the start of World War II, the Boyt Harness Company again contracted with the U. S. Government to design and manufacture high quality military equipment including Jeep scabbards, holsters, ammo belts, and paratrooper carbine cases. The production of wartime leather products made Boyt one of the largest employers in Iowa.