.45 GAP Pistol Offerings


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straightShot
July 3, 2004, 10:25 AM
Which manufacturers, besides Glock and Springfield, are planning on introducing guns chambered in .45 GAP in FY04? Does anyone know?

Thanks.

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Turk
July 3, 2004, 12:39 PM
straightShot,

I'll ride along on your post. My question is has anyone heard if Glock is going to offer the 45 GAP in there Model 36?

cratz2
July 3, 2004, 12:41 PM
I'm holding out for a PCR or a P-01 in 45 GAP. I'll buy the first one that comes in to Indy.

wally
July 3, 2004, 03:38 PM
Unless someone gets the 45 GAP into a Kahr PM40 sized gun or smaller, I see zero use for another odd ball caliber.

Compare the Kahr MK40 .40 S&W to Kimber BP TEN II .45ACP


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Para P10 Warthog is in between these two in size. Hard to see any need for 45GAP IMHO.

--wally.

carpettbaggerr
July 4, 2004, 01:15 AM
Hard to see a need in the US, perhaps. But I'm sure it'll be a big seller in many other countries.

SnakeEater
July 4, 2004, 03:43 AM
I'd go for a SIG 229 in .45 GAP right now!

Old Fuff
July 4, 2004, 10:46 AM
A number of manufacturers are interested in the .45 GAP cartridge, but they were waiting to see if major ammunition makers would add it to their lines. Now that this is the case, some interesting introduction may happen at the end of this year, or more likely, at the SHOT Show early next year.

Why the .45 GAP? Is it just another superfluous cartridge? Not from the gun designer's point of view. The shorter overall length requires less slide travel then the .45 ACP, and in a compact pistol this can be important.

Because of very short recoil spring tunnels and slide travel issues an ultra-short .45 ACP can have reliability problems, and a wider grip (front to back) is required vs, the ,45 GAP.

wally
July 4, 2004, 01:00 PM
All these "benefits" because the OAL is 0.1" less?

Of course its a boon to gun and ammo makers if people are silly enough to buy into the "need" for it.

See my photo earlier comparing MK40 to Kimber BP TEN II not much room between these two for 45 GAP. IF someone can get 45 GAP into an PM40 sized gun, or smaller, it'd be worthwhile. Anything larger and you can get 45ACP guns of that size and not have to buy buy into an odd ball caliber and face problems of ammo availablity or price.

--wally.

Old Fuff
July 4, 2004, 08:05 PM
Wally:

Yes, it can make a difference, and no - the new guns that will be offered will not be chopped versions of the 1911 - at least not many of them. They may however more closely resemble the Kahr, but not be in .40 caliber.

Which in a nutshell is the whole issue.

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