Er, we may have another mid-east problem


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Airwolf
February 14, 2003, 11:43 AM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31029

Friday, February 14, 2003


GEOSTRATEGY-DIRECT INTELLIGENCE BRIEF

Egypt hiding weapons in tunnels

Evidence of WMD program concealed in area of Libya border

Posted: February 14, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

For years, Egypt has been engaged in missile and weapons of mass destruction programs with countries such as Iraq and North Korea, reports Geostrategy-Direct, the online intelligence newsletter.

The problem was that the CIA had difficulty uncovering these programs.

Now, after years of searching, the CIA has come up with the reason.

Egypt has devised a concealment and deception program that exceeds that of North Korea's, intelligence operatives say. Many of the Egyptian missile and WMD programs are based in the Sahara and huge Western deserts between Egypt and Libya.

The two countries have built a series of tunnels along the Egyptian-Libyan border. The tunnels conceal development and production of North Korean missiles and nuclear weapons components from the prying eyes of Israeli and U.S. spy satellites.

North Korea reportedly built the tunnel network. Pyongyang used its expertise in digging its way to South Korea for the Egyptian and Libyan concealment program.
North Korea currently is working on a mega-tunnel project through Libya.

Thousands of North Korean workers are building a reinforced concrete tunnel that is 1,300 feet underground and can't be destroyed even by U.S. nuclear weapons. Or, at least that is the hope by Egypt and the Libyans.

The presence of so many North Koreans as well as Filipinos in Libya has not been easy to hide. That's where the deception comes in. Libyan ruler Moammar Gadhafi has told Western guests that the laborers are going to build a 2,000-mile tunnel from Egypt to Tunisia in what the colonel calls the "Great Man-Made River Project."

Quietly, U.S. officials have probed Egypt for information on the project. Egyptian officials, who have stymied every U.S. investigation on Iraqi- or North Korean-linked WMD programs, have shrugged their shoulders.

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Harold Mayo
February 14, 2003, 10:54 PM
Just my opinion...

I don't think that this is really very well-founded. A 2,000 mile tunnel 1,300 feet below ground? That would be expensive beyond belief and the manufacture of the equipment to do it, maintenance of it, fuel and power for it, etc. would be impossible to conceal.

Then there are the problems of ventilation for the tunnel, as well as continued consumption of power, drainage of water, and routine maintenance.

Just my opinion, of course, but I DO happen to be a mining engineer with quite a bit of underground mining experience. Just take a look at the problems and time that it took to dig the Chunnel or the tunnel under Boston's harbor. And this was in countries with higher levels of technology and expertise...

Airwolf
February 14, 2003, 11:23 PM
Take another look at it.

The 2,000 mile tunnel is simply a BS cover story to explain why the all the workers are there. Is anyone out there really going to buy such nonsense from *Libya*? I agree it's so far out there to boggle the mind.

Now, as for the 1,300 foot deep one to store/develop weapons...? That I can buy unless there is some reason a structure couldn’t be built that deep at that particular location.

My thought is that the logistics train to support digging down 1,300 feet in the middle of nowhere would be so huge as to be nearly impossible to conceal from overhead surveillance.

Blackcloud6
February 15, 2003, 10:24 AM
Who the heck is Geostrategy-Direct? Its online, eh? Hmmm.....

Waitone
February 15, 2003, 11:21 AM
Problem with underground systems is that somewhere you gotta go underground. Those entry points are easy to see particularly if the underground system is really big.

I don't believe for a minute the US and Israel didn't see the operation. They saw it but chose to ignore it. The US has a major ally called Egypt. It would be really inconvenient for the US to call Eqypt on its duplicity. When trying to understand the US relationship with Eqypt, think Saudi Arabia. Same kind of relationship. Osama is a Saudi (born in Yemen). OBL's second in command is a dude named Zawahiri (?sp) who just happens to be Eqyptian.

No. the US knows about the complex and is keeping is quite. It would be no trouble to destroy the facilities should the decision be made, so why get all that excited.

Cadwallader
February 16, 2003, 02:27 PM
This story is a mishmash of misinformation. The Libyan "Great Man-Made River Project" has been written up many times in the world press since it was begun way back in 1984. Everybody BUT N. Korea was in on a piece of the $25 billion project, it seems.

Per a NYT story from 1997:
Mysterious Libyan Pipeline Could Be Conduit For Troops (http://www.fas.org/news/libya/971202-nyt.htm)

Blackhawk
February 16, 2003, 05:11 PM
So many marvels are so much easier to write about than to do. It used to be called science fiction, but the genre seems to have been renamed "news".... :rolleyes:

Don Gwinn
February 16, 2003, 05:30 PM
Waitone took my answer. Even if we can't nuke it 1300 feet down, they'd better be able to hide the entrances.

Quartus
February 16, 2003, 05:46 PM
Just take a look at the problems and time that it took to dig the Chunnel or the tunnel under Boston's harbor.


Not to mention that buying the equipment to do that would be a very public event, because that kind of equipment is not exactly easy to come by. How many tens of millions did the Chunnel diggers cost? Those beasts are made to order for the project, and, uh, they aren't the easiest to conceal.

Lessee, our satellites can read a license plate on a car, but we missed an operation that size?

:rolleyes:

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