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Average Guy
July 6, 2004, 06:30 PM
I just picked up my Mossberg 500 from the shop, where I had the factory ghost ring sight kit installed. I mounted the gun, got a good cheek weld, and found that I was looking at the bottom of the rear sight. In order to actually see the front sight through the ring, I had to raise my head. The rear sight is adjustable for elevation, but it's already bottomed. Will I just have to adjust the sights? Or get a superduper Delta Force Elite cheek pad?
lbmii
July 6, 2004, 08:04 PM
I have been thinking of mounting GR sights on my 590. When you order the kit what does the front site consist of? Does it screw on at the bead site hole or does it have to be soldered on? Is this a do it yourself job?
Andrew Wyatt
July 6, 2004, 09:19 PM
two thickness of old mousepad duct taped to the stock work just fine.
MrMurphy
July 6, 2004, 11:26 PM
Either that, or use a jaw weld rather than a cheek weld. You must have a big head, or your head's in the wrong spot. I never had that problem with GR M590s, and not on my Benelli either.
Andrew Wyatt
July 7, 2004, 01:11 AM
You must have a big head, or your head's in the wrong spot.
It's the gun's fault when it doesn't fit.
Average Guy
July 7, 2004, 01:17 AM
...or your head's in the wrong spot.
It often is, MrMurphy. :D
With my Winchester 1300 (as with shotguns in my past, plus the M16A2), I get a nice cheek weld right under my cheekbone, and the sights (bead, pipe, whatever) line right up. Just like it was meant to be. In this case it's the same deal, only the sights sit up much higher. I'll just have to take her out and burn up some ammo and see what I can see. I'm also considering cobbling together a solution that's slightly classier than neoprene and duct tape. Anybody tried the "Wrapid Comb (http://www.gunsolutions.com/)"?
lbmii, check out this thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86607&highlight=shotgun) for answers to your question. The factory sight kit comes with the rear sight (windage and elevation adjustable) which screws into the receiver, and the front sight (dovetailed into the base, so drift adjustable), which needs to be silver soldered on (or milled like Andrew Wyatt says).
Duke of Lawnchair
July 7, 2004, 01:27 AM
You must have a big head, or your head's in the wrong spot.
Average Guy is too much of a savage beast to use a shotgun.
He's got to stick to what he knows works best, a fork and steak knife.
Andrew Wyatt
July 7, 2004, 01:29 AM
That wrapid comb is just a couple pieces of mousepad and an ace bandage. try the mousepad and black duct tape at least temporarily to find out hoe w much you need.
Average Guy
July 7, 2004, 02:55 AM
Two pieces of 3/8" foam is just about perfect...
...so 3/4", playa. :cool:
Andrew Wyatt
July 7, 2004, 02:59 AM
i suppose if you wanted to get really fancy, you could make a solid cheek piece. with parts storage. out of meat.
Average Guy
July 7, 2004, 01:24 PM
My best friend says I should just buy something ready-made, because he knows I'll spend countless hours trying to build something that I could have bought for $16, and it'll turn out like crap. But I have such good ideas! It's in the execution that it fails.
I got it: I'll cut a piece out of the comb and then reinstall it with hydraulics so I can customize the height at any time. I'll put the mini air tank in the stock, too.
The HydroComb...AdjustaStock...?
Sounds like another Photoshop project... :D
Duke of Lawnchair
July 7, 2004, 07:51 PM
Get a Glock.
Average Guy
July 7, 2004, 09:25 PM
Get a Glock.
You know my wife took mine, don't you?
You're just cruel.
Andrew Wyatt
July 7, 2004, 11:06 PM
if 7 rounds can't take care of the problem, you need to reload faster!
45R
July 8, 2004, 01:59 AM
PUT DOWN THE
http://www.pbase.com/image/30402448.jpg
Duke of Lawnchair
July 8, 2004, 03:28 AM
You know my wife took mine, don't you?
EXACTLY!
Now, get a Glock!
:D
Average Guy
July 8, 2004, 03:36 AM
OK, OK. The solution is:
When the dept. issues her a .40, I get my 9 back.
In the meantime, I've picked up a lovely SW1911.
Awwwwwww yeeaah! :D
Duke of Lawnchair
July 8, 2004, 03:48 AM
Awwwwwwwww GYEAH!!!
Now, you're cookin' with gas.
Skunkabilly
July 8, 2004, 11:39 AM
Now, you're cookin' with gas.
Average Guy was cookin' with gas when he was riding to town with the Skunk in the Crisis Response Vehicle :eek:
Texian Pistolero
July 8, 2004, 11:58 AM
I think the question is being asked backwards. The question is, where does you shot spread HIT when using a cheek weld and the front sight. Go to range and find out.
I have a bottom end 870 that is dead on with brass front sight and cheek weld.
I have found that with cheek weld and front sight, I can get 5 inch groups with front sight and cheeck weld at 100 yards with M-1 carbine, ignoring rear sight alignment. This is VERY FAST shooting.
Texian Pistolero
July 8, 2004, 11:59 AM
But if you gotta, beef jerky and duct tape.
Comb is too low ( duh -obvious)
Andrew is correct, mousepad works.
Moleskin -
We always keep handy for this very reason, self sticking. We keep in range bags and inside the club. Cut to fit, stick and get on with the shooting. New folks using others guns, borrowing one while hunting...I ran across some packages I've had for 25 years...
You need this in range bag anyway, works on blisters, feet/ hands, and all kinds of stuff.
Pachmyer and others make a black stick -on of various thicknesses.
Sometimes...one can loosen the stock at grip and reciever, some guns come with shims or make your own. I use plastic from the hardware store, or you can steal the dividers from you tackle box. Cut a "U" to fit over the bolt and sometimes the shim ( s) alone will work. Oh you can fiddle with the cant at the same time.
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