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Dionysusigma
July 6, 2004, 08:25 PM
Well, in a move to get my life back on track after a year of just BSing around, I'm taking an English Comp II class in order to get myself ready for the fall, when I'll be going back full-time.

The next paper we have coming up is a position paper, and each student picks their own topic. I'll give you three guesses as to what I've picked, and the fist two don't count. ;)

Here's the catch: From what I was able to gather, another paper will be due next week, only this time we argue the opposite side. This is going to be a problem, as any argument that the antis have is going to be unuseable b/c of the non-logic involved in all of them. Writing BS is something that I just do not do... I've tried it before, and the only good that came of it were the pretty flames it put forth when I later set it on fire.

Another thing--in today's "discussion" (more like an unmoderated fight) two things came along that I hadn't considered... waiting periods and police protection. I need facts on both; specific examples (the case where police are not obligated to protect you), the reasons why waiting periods don't work, etc. I kept quiet during the foray, with the saying "Don't argue with an idiot--people watching may not be able to tell the difference" in mind. Also, I didn't want to say something, have something interjected back, and not have a well-stated reply.

I want to blow them (figuratively, of course ;) ) out of the water with this. Right now, the only course of action I can think of is to get the "+/- BS pro-gun-control" paper in first, then send in my true paper stating why gun control is a way-bad-freaking idea.

Any direction to court cases, published studies, etc. is more than greatly appreciated. :)

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Skibane
July 6, 2004, 09:09 PM
This topic comes up frequently, so...

SKIBANE'S CANNED LIST OF IDEAS FOR A BOOK REPORT OR CLASS PROJECT ON GUN CONTROL AND THE 2ND AMENDMENT:

First, some examples that show how other countries have taken gun control to ridiculous extremes — this helps illustrate the anti-gunner's "give us an inch, we'll take a mile" attitude, and provides a clue as to what may lie in America's future:

1. One citizen's account of Gun Laws In Germany (http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=3384)

2. How the anti-gun hysteria in Australia has progressed from registering and confiscating modern firearms to antique firearms (http://www.theage.com.au/handheld/articles/2003/07/28/1059244557795.htm) to swords (http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7234997%255E1702,00.html) and bows (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/08/28/1030508072424.html).

3. Similar accounts of Knife Control in Great Britain, Scotland and Ireland (http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b8344fc255d.htm) (A couple of the links to the original newspaper articles have expired, but you can still cut and paste the text from the thread.)

4. Report from the NRA's Institute Of Legislative Action: Gun Laws & Crime In Foreign Countries (http://www.nraila.org/FactSheets.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=78&1=View)

5. Report from the NRA's Institute Of Legislative Action: Australia's Gun Ban, Crime & Video Tape (http://www.nraila.org/FactSheets.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=30)

Next, a link (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/03/national/main576422.shtml) to a news account of the Center for Disease Control's recent finding that gun control laws don't reduce gun violence.

Next, GunCite.com (http://www.guncite.com) is probably one of the most comprehensive RKBA resources on the net — all topics on this site are well-documented, and generally beyond reproach. Also, be sure to download the latest version of GunFacts (an Adobe Acrobat file of RKBA statistics and talking points — lots of anti-gun myths exploded here). You should be able to download it by right-clicking here (www.keepandbeararms.com/images/gunfacts.pdf) (Mac users option-click instead).

Finally, a HUGE Bibliography (http://www.saf.org/AllLawReviews.html) of the 2nd Amendment in various law reviews and legal journals (and I mean HUGE!!!).

Regarding the pro-gun-control paper: IMO, the case for gun control isn't particularly convincing, and there's no reason why you should attempt to make it any more so. Personally, I'd just regurgitate a few of their "facts" and slogans, and let my fellow students decide for themselves how lame the concept really is.

BTW, please let us know how the project turns out – Your insight on what works best may benefit future students.

Jadecristal
July 6, 2004, 09:50 PM
http://www.jpfo.org/Dial911.htm

Covers the police-don't-have-to-protect-you discussion, along with some SCOTUS cites. I used it in a similar English Comp 102 class here in WI this year.

Jadecristal

Baba Louie
July 6, 2004, 10:21 PM
Dionysusigma...

If a Pro/Con set of papers is due, one following the other, may I make a suggestion that you take the anti's side in the first paper using all the emotional rhetoric you can muster (please don't make yourself sick while regurgitating Feinstein/Brady-isms)... then, the following week, come up with the logical, fact filled, historical 2nd Amendment RKBA position, blowing the doors off your previous paper???
Might be a better tact saving your best for last...

Just a thought

edited to add... Dion, Now that I went back and re-read your original post, I find that great minds think alike and I must be guilty (hell I am guilty) of glossing over and not careful, comprehensive reading skills. Gotta work on that. :D
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/
scroll down the right hand column for interesting facts and whatnot. You might find a useful bit of helpful info.

NukemJim
July 6, 2004, 10:34 PM
Baba Louie,

I like the way you think ! Great Idea.

NukemJim

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