Is there a thread or a website or a book that somebody could introduce me to? I've just recently become interested in handloading and would like a good beginner's resource to check out. :)
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Buy the current copy of Speer's Reloading Manual. The load charts will be a valuable resource going forward and, for now, you should read the "how to" sections very carefully.
P95Carry
July 9, 2004, 02:37 AM
W9 .... leaving aside any antagonism toward Lee - after a ''certain thread'' .... do go get a copy of Richard Lee's reload manual Edition #2 .... it has much useful (and vital) info within.
I think a good read of that and you'd feel well equipped to enter the fray!
P95andWild'ssuggestionsaregoodtooCarry ..... :D
JA
July 9, 2004, 06:29 AM
http://www.reload-nrma.com/
Step by step pics,text,and video.
WhoKnowsWho
July 9, 2004, 10:55 AM
ABC's of Reloading (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0873491904/qid=1089381471/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-4675387-0248052?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
First book I read and it helped me understand reloading much more fully.
The load manuals would be the next reading step.
And then you can start buying equipment!
Smokey Joe
July 9, 2004, 02:34 PM
Agree with WhoKnowsWho: The ABC's of Reloading is the perfect place to start! Wish I'd had it when I started; it would have saved me an untold amount of uncertainty. Published by Krause Publications www.krause.com and can be ordered through the publisher if not found locally or on e-bay.
Second textbook of reloading IMHO should be Lyman's 48th edition, which should be available at your local gun store or through Midsouth, or any of the reloading mail-order suppliers. Lyman's website is: www.lymanproducts.com This book has 125 pgs devoted to the basics of reolading at the start, and is very helpful to the newbie. The ABC's is ALL about the basics. The Lyman book has plenty of info on what load to use with which bullet for your cartridge.
shu
July 18, 2004, 09:42 AM
i'll second the recommendation to buy the current speer manual. it is what i did, evan being 90% certain going in that after investigating i would elect to take up reloading, probably with the rcbs master reloading kit (which includes the manual).
so - i have two copies of the book; one for the bedside and one for the shop. the background material is excellent. i re-read it from time-to-time. the load charts you can use with confidence, evan as you become astonished that load charts from different sources vary so widely.
the speer manual of course showcases the speer/cci/rcbs family of products, but i am ok with that. it is a wide and deep product line, good quality, excellent support (e.g. they shipped me at no charge the smaller cylinder for the powder measure when i got into the pistol calibers).
the rcbs master reloading kit is not the cheapest, nor the most expensive way to start reloading, but it does have (almost) everything you need. get a set of calipers along with your first set of dies. might as well get the impact bullet puller as well.
i began with rifle, but moved rapidly to reloading for pistol also. evan for production of 300-400 rounds per month of mixed calibers the single stage rock chucker press can be run with acceptable speed. yes, there is more individual handling of the cartridges, but the more opportunity to notice split/deformed cases, badly seated primers, etc.
-shu
Unisaw
July 18, 2004, 02:41 PM
<buy the current speer manual...i have two copies of the book; one for the bedside and one for the shop>
You might be a reloader if...? :D
Clark
July 20, 2004, 10:56 PM
My shpeal:
I got an RCBS Rockchucker kit and an RCBS Video, because I was overwhelmed with how to get started reloading.
If I were to advise someone on how to do it that was a friend, I would show him how, and then loan him enough stuff to do it at his home.
Telling someone how to do it on the internet, I would start out with the tasks that have to be done, and list the cheap tools to get, so the the guy can maintain a mental map of the goals:
38 Special [same die set and shell holder as 357 mag] is very easy and cheap to load, most people have one, and the guns have mountains of safety margin. They are a good place to start.
1) Get the old primer out of the case, called depriming or decapping.
2) Make the case small enough in inside diameter to grip a bullet and small enough on the outside to fit in the chamber. This is called resizing.
Both steps 1) & 2) are usually accomplished in one step as the resizing die has a decapping pin. This will require:
a) Shell holder ~$3 Lee #1 shell holder or ~$5 RCBS #6 shell holder.
The same size shell holder can be used later for 357 mag, 256 Win mag, etc.
b) A resizing die. This die will probably be bought in a kit with one, two, or three other dies. In straight wall cartridges, carbide resizing dies are available at an extra cost. It is always worth the extra to get carbide. Adjust the die [how far to screw it into the press] per the instructions that come with the die set.
Lee 3 die set for 38 special; $21 steel, $23 carbide
RCBS 3 die set for 38 special: $36
c) A press. Lee Reloader press $20 is a real cheapee, but will always find a use. RCBS Rockchucker $90 is a workhorse of the highest quality.
3) Clean the case. This step can be done with a couple twists of the wrist with steel wool, or expensive vibrators. Later when you get more tools, you will clean the primer pocket, but it is not needed.
4) Re prime the case.
a) One can buy a priming tool and do it in 2 seconds or fumble with the primer built into RCBS presses and do it 10 seconds.
Lee Auto prime II $13, RCBS priming tool $26
The two tools I mentioned use the same shell holder as used above in resizing. Beware that Lee also sells another priming system ["Lee auto prime" not "Lee auto primer II"] that uses special shell holders. I would avoid that system to start.
b) One must also buy, beg, borrow, or steal new primers.
To buy them mail order, one would have to pay a Hazardous Materials charge [Haz Mat]. Small purchases would be too expensive. Usually 100 primers can be purchased for $1 or $2 at the local gun store. Primers come in combinations of being; magnum or standard, pistol or rifle, and large or small. For 38 special, small pistol primers are what is needed, and will work with standard or magnum, but most published loads with be with standard primers.
5) Fill the case with powder. This is called charging the case. For this one will need powder and a way to measure powder. With black powder, one just fills the case, but with smokeless powder too much powder will fit. Start out using smokeless powder and measuring it. The amount to use depends on the bullet that will be used. The amount is published in load books, or better still on powder manufacturer's web sites for free.
a) Buy powder. There is the Haz Mat problem again, so off to the neighborhood gunstore. Any "pistol powder" will do. Expect to pay ~$20 for a pound in a gunstore. I like Bullseye or Unique powder made by Alliant, but AA#2 or AA#5 work just as well made by Accurate Arms, or Winchester 231, or Hodgdon HS-6, or Vihtavuori 3N37, or IMR SR7625, or dozens of others.
b) Measure the powder. This can be done with cheap plastic measuring cups with handles from Lee, but I would start out weighing the powder. The weighing scales: Lee Perfect powder measure $20, RCBS Uniflow Powder measure $60 [this tool is really nice]
6) Install the bullet. This is called seating the bullet.
a) Buy bullets. For 38 special, .357" diameter or .358" bullets are normally used. You can buy lead bullets or lead bullets covered with copper called jacketed bullets. I would start out with jacketed bullets. These will cost you 5 to 15 cents each and usually bought in 100's.
b) The seating die should have come in the reloading die kit. Put it in the press and put the primed and charged case in the shell holder. Set the bullet on top of the case and raise the ram [push down on the press lever]
c) Measure the over all length of the cartridge [OAL]. This can be done with a ruler, but is best done with dial calipers. Expect to pay $20 for some Chinese calipers or $100 for American.
7) Crimp the case into the bullet. This means the case must pinch the bullet so hard that recoil will not yank the bullet out when other chambers of the revolver are fired [or so the bullet will not get shoved deeper into the case from recoil in magazine or tube fed cartridge]. The type of crimp depends on the type of cartridge. The rimmed 38 special case should be roll crimped. The rimless 9mm cartridge should be taper crimped. The crimping step can be done in one step with the bullet seating, but I would start out doing it in two separate steps. The two steps look the same [cartridge goes into seating die], but can be different in how the seating die is adjusted. Again, adjust the die [how far to screw it into the press] per the instructions that come with the die set and with the seating die, there is also the adjustment of the seating stem [knurled knob on top of the die].
8) Take notes when you shoot your handloads. Write on the targets. Things like "125 gr. bullets shot way low, but 158 gr. bullets were right on." will come in handy next time you sit down to reload or buy bullets.
>From the above it looks like it will cost $110 to get started.
That is 1/3 of what it cost ME to get started.
There are more steps to loading a bottle shaped rifle cartridge, and even more to get them to be very accurate, but after one masters the 38 special, it will make more sense.
Smokey Joe
July 21, 2004, 03:14 AM
Clark, your most important step is your last one: Take notes. Your whole summary is good; I would only add that you want to keep records of EVERYTHING you do to a batch of ammo while making it, not just while shooting at the range. There is nothing so frustrating as having a particular lot of reloads which are world-beaters, and not being able to whip up another batch just like them.
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