Glock 19 or Springfield XD?


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hankrearden2000
July 9, 2004, 03:49 AM
I'm considering a semi auto for my next concealed carry gun. I've always been a revolver man. Which do you guys and gals recommend? The Glock 19 9mm or the Springfield XD Service Model also in 9mm? They are similar in size, weight, and barrel length and the XD is significantly cheaper.

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TScottW99
July 9, 2004, 04:27 AM
Try them both on for size and go with the one that you like and feel comfortable with. Try to rent one of each and see which one you like to shoot the best. I own several Glocks and one XD9 and like them all.

I didn't want the XD9 but was trying to find a 9mm that my wife would like to shoot. She tried both the Glock 19 and the XD and like the XD much better. After taking the XD to the range I was pleasently surprised and now carry it alot. Mine has performed 100% and really likes the Corbon 125 grain +P.

Good luck!

azrael
July 9, 2004, 06:55 AM
Springy....All others, are but pale imitationss....

Spot77
July 9, 2004, 08:35 AM
All other pros, cons, and arguments aside, I think the Springfield is just a way cooler gun.:p

Glocks are everywhere; XD's still seem pretty rare.

TODD3465
July 9, 2004, 08:49 AM
In that caliber I'd get the Glock.

It's got a few more custom parts and holsters out for it.

You can get real high cap mags for it if you want to pay the money.

That said go to a range and rent both shoot them and get what works for you the best.

TScottW99
July 9, 2004, 08:54 AM
Actually the holster selection for the XD is pretty good and getting better.

Sidearmor, Blade-Tech, CTACT, High Noon, Don Hume, Blackhawk and others all have holsters. Some good XD gear can be found here... http://www.xd-gear.com

jc2
July 9, 2004, 09:29 AM
The XD has a better trigger and is more usually more accurate than the 19. Holsters are fairly easy the find anymore--it has really caught on. Though in about ten weeks magazines should not be an issue, the XD40 mags serve as perfectly legal and functional high cap mags in the XD9 and will cost you about $25 each new. High cap 19 mags are a little harder find, generally well-used (to worn out) and cost two to three times as much. It's your choice. The XD is probably somewhat less prone to operator error (accidental discharge) when comes to holstering (particularly concealment/IWB type holsters) and cleaning. The finish of the 19 requires less maintenance than the finish of the XD, and the 19 is somewhat easier to work on than the XD.

middy
July 9, 2004, 10:21 AM
the XD40 mags serve as perfectly legal and functional high cap mags in the XD9
Of course, a G23 mag will work as a high-cap for a G19, as well.

I like them both, but the Glock has a more proven track record for durability (and how!)

Frenchy
July 9, 2004, 10:55 AM
I have owned and carried both as duty pieces...I still own the HS (XD).
Both guns were dead reliable with all ammo.
Glock has the advantage on finish.
The HS (IMO) is more ergonomic (grip angle, etc) than the Glock, but that's subjective.
Mag release on the HS is ambi if that's important to you.

Try them both...you can't go wrong withe either.

http://img21.exs.cx/img21/8582/HS2000.th.jpg (http://img21.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img21&image=HS2000.jpg)

jc2
July 9, 2004, 11:08 AM
I like them both, but the Glock has a more proven track record for durability (and how!)
The 19 certainly has a longer history than XD which includes the infamous slam-fires/going full auto of some of the early models, the Phase 3 malfunctions and, of course, broken slide rails, but there has been absolutely no indication of durability problems with the XD during its lifespan.

It might not be too wise to assume merely because the 19 has been in production longer it will prove more durable than than the XD, right?

hksw
July 9, 2004, 01:53 PM
Have a G34 and an XD9. Although I can be quite accurate with the G34 if I take my time, overall I like the XD better. Like the single action trigger.

Brasso
July 9, 2004, 08:46 PM
I've had them both but I kept the Glock. Having said that, if the xd had a tennifer finish and got rid of that stupid roll pin on top I wouldn't touch another glock. The tennifer finish has me won on the glock, even though the xd is better in most every other area. The xd sub 9mm I had was some kind of freaky accurate for such a short gun.

twoblink
July 10, 2004, 05:51 AM
Easy. Get the SUPERIOR Steyr.

http://www.usasteyr.com/images/mseriestest.jpg

tlhelmer
July 10, 2004, 02:15 PM
Glock 19!:cool:

Kilroy
July 10, 2004, 04:33 PM
Is the Steyr back in production? Did they build another factory?

XD is interesting in that it absolutely has to have that grip safety. The trigger mechanism is very simple and the gun is cocked full time. The other guns that are cocked full time are furnished with a manual safety.

carpettbaggerr
July 10, 2004, 11:40 PM
The XD is probably somewhat less prone to operator error (accidental discharge) when comes to holstering (particularly concealment/IWB type holsters) and cleaning. :confused:
Pull trigger = bang.
Holster with finger on trigger = bang.
Something about the XD I'm missing?

mattf7184
July 11, 2004, 12:03 AM
Kilroy,

The lookout for Steyr in the US is stronger than ever. Id look at the M9 at CDNN, one of the BEST deal in pistols right now($280 I believe). There is even a new M series redesign coming out. I like the XD a lil more than the G-19 overall (due to it fitting my hand better than the Steyr and Glock and I like the grip angle better), but if you go that route I HIGHLY recommend a two tone stainless slide due to issues with the slide finish. The Glock and Steyr are tenifer treated.

The Steyr has the best trigger imo out of all of them and if you dont mind the Glock/Steyr Grip angle then i'd recomend it as well. Plus there is a group buy for 14round magazines going on for ~$9 a magazine if you can get in on it (u will most likely have to use paypal to get in on the deal).

All of those guns are very well built and none of them are bad choices. If you go the Glock route www.topglock.com has the best prices and for the XD two tone, Aimsurplus has them for $450 (even though I dont like Aim due to past experience but many people have luck with them).Good luck.

litework
July 11, 2004, 12:04 AM
Pull trigger = bang.
Holster with finger on trigger = bang.
Something about the XD I'm missing?

When you holster the XD, use the lower 2/3 of the grip (the part without the grip safety) and you don't have to worry about anything (not just your finger) causing the the trigger to be depressed when you push your firearm forward into the holster.

jc2
July 11, 2004, 12:07 AM
Something about the XD I'm missing?
Yep. Sure is.

Pull trigger = Bang (XD and Glock)
Holster with finger on trigger = Bang (Glock)
Holster with finger on trigger and hand off grip safety = NO Bang (XD)
Holster with shirt tail or strap in trigger guard = Bang (Glock)
Holster with shirt tail or strap in trigger guard and hand off grip safety = NO Bang (XD)

Fieldstripping fail to check chamber = Bang (Glock)
Fieldstripping, lock slide back, turn release, move slide forward, pull trigger = NO Bang (XD)

Drop weapon--grab it on the way down = Bang (Glock)
Drop weapon--grab it on the way down = NO Bang (XD)

See you were missing quite a lot, weren't you!

Blueduck
July 11, 2004, 12:11 AM
Was just about to post about the grip safety :)

As thats done, Glocks apparently having some problems with the newest followers in the G-19 with the ten round mags. Personally I'd wait to Sept to see if the ban expires but thats just me.

Glock has had a few issues to date but of course they have likely have 20 times as many 9mm's "on the road" as Springfield or Steyr have ever dreamed of or ever will...

Sactown
July 12, 2004, 02:36 AM
I've got a G34 and a XD9 Tactical. I prefer the XD. For me, it has a better grip angle and trigger. Neither have had any problems. Neither one has rusted. Try the G19 and XD before you buy. Some people can shoot glocks really well, some people can't. Find out which one you are before you drop the duckets.

rebbryan
July 12, 2004, 02:48 AM
i've got the xd 40. if i had to do over, i'd still get the xd 40 but get the bi-tone, the xd's do have a finish problem and the stainless steel slide will take care of that

Black Majik
July 12, 2004, 06:16 AM
For CCW purposes I'm gonna recommend the Glock 19.

It has a more durable finish against rust and holster wear.

The profile is thinner than the XD-9.

Glock reliability (check to see if you have the updated mag followers)



To me, the only thing the XD has on the Glock is a better trigger. I still hate that damn Glock trigger. :o

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