[Higgins]

Since the "Search" function is disabled, a question:

Anyone here CCW a Glock? Anyone who refuses to do so for safety reasons? I'd like to make a Glock my primary/do everything pistol, but the idea of carrying a Glock gives me pause for safety reasons. Something about the short trigger pull/no manual safety that makes a little voice of concern chirp in my ear.

I'd like to hear from both sides of the aisle. Am I a momma's boy b/c carrying a Glock concerns me or is my concern legitimate?

(BTW What's a "New York" trigger for a Glock?)

[QuarterBoreGunner]

I carry a Glock 30 on a daily basis; the short trigger pull/no manual safety shouldn't be an issue if you just remember the four rules, primary of these for me is "off target/off trigger".

In my humble opinion, aside from a a few weird incidents in the past, it's really difficult to make a Glock discharge without pulling the trigger.

The NY trigger for the Glocks are/is an extra added spring doohicky that brings the standard 5.5 lbs trigger pull to about 12 lbs. I believe it was introduced at the NYPDs request for their issue Glocks.

Hope this helps.

[malada]

I carry a G26 with one in the pipe. As long as you have a good holster that covers the trigger you have nothing to worry about. If you are uneasy, unload the gun, be sure the trigger is set and carry it around the house. Practice your draw, roll around on the floor, sleep in it. What ever you want to do. After a couple of weeks of that and seeing that the trigger will never be tripped unless you stick your finger in there and pull it, you will feel more comforatable about carrying in public with it loaded. Worked for me.

Sidearmor IWB is my favorite and I have many :D

Be safe!

Malada

[bradvanhorn]

I don't carry a Glock, but I carry something similar in function - a Kel-Tec P-11 9mm. The P-11 is comparable to the Glock 26. I have no concern about carrying my Kel-Tec. Unless I stick my finger in the trigger and pull, the gun is not going to go off. If you can keep your trigger finger under control, then there's really no good reason in my mind why a Glock wouldn't be a great CCW.

In my opinion, the NY trigger turns a crappy 5-6# Glock trigger into a really crappy 12# Glock trigger. And, I think that when you have to work that hard to pull the trigger, you are going to have accuracy problems. As such, I would avoid the NY trigger at all cost.

Good Luck!

[cerberus]

I sure like my G23 it's really the smoothest of all my carry guns. For sure it's going to shoot and keep shooting when needed.

[Kingcreek]

I have carried a glock 23 in a BladeTech IWB and a safariland paddle. as stated above, if the holster covers the trigger, nothing to worry about.

[cerberus]

http://www.rmholsters.com/

Quick to snap on your belt holds the Glock firm and it's a safe carry.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2376860

[jc2]

There are two "New York" triggers for the Glock. The NY1 gives you about an eight pound trigger pull that feels better than the standard 5.5 pound trigger pull. The NY2 gives you about a twelve pound trigger pull.

There is probably an increased likelihood for an AD when holstering or reholstering a Glock in a concealment or IWB holster due to its short/light trigger stroke. It can hard to see what you're doing, and if something (not necessarily your finger) gets in the trigger guard, there is a chance for an AD. Of course, attempting to carry a Glock stuck in your pocket or waistband without a holster designed for a Glock (to cover the trigger guard) is asking for an extra hole in your body.

So, yes, there is probably an increased likelihood for an AD with a Glock over a handgun with a longer/heavier trigger stroke or a handgun with an operator safety. Of course, whether the degree of increased likelihood is significant enough to choose another handgun is up to you.

For me, Glocks are OK (and nothing more) for open carry in regular belt/duty type holsters and pocket holsters where you normally holster the weapon and the put the weapon and holster in your pocket. They are out for IWB and anything much behind the hip (e.g., small or middle of the back--basically from the four o'clock position on. There are lots of choices as good or better than the Glock for that kind of carry with a smaller element of risk.

[Lennyjoe]

I carried a G19 in a Comp-Tac Undercover Pro for the first year that I had my CCW.

Was very comfy and I never worried about the safety of carrying a Glock.

It has since left the collection and CCW responsibility.

It got the boot by a Kimber.

[E5MC]

If I did'nt have a 1911 as a carry gun' I would carry a G19. The manual safety on a Glock is between your ears. Keep your finger off the trigger until your commited to fire. That's all the safety you'll need.

[MJRW]

I used to feel the need for a manual safety. It kind of went away with a bit more trigger time. Been carrying a G19 for about a year and a half now with no qualms. I have a little ritual I practice with every new gun I can carry.

1) Cock the gun but do not chamber a round.
2) Wear the gun like this every day for two weeks.
3) Check the gun every day at the end of the day to verify that the gun is still cocked.
4) Carry a loaded gun while doing this that I've done this with.

I do this to make sure I don't have any odd things I do that I am not aware of like leaning against an arm rest and flipping a safety off and then jacking the gun out of the holster or something. I have done this with all of my guns in most of my holsters. I didn't have a problem with the G19, so it became my every day carry. I actually haven't a problem with any of them, but the G19 is so comfortable to wear and I fire it the most, too.

[JoeRapture]

I carry a Glock M-27 for CCW. I have carried it, pretty much daily, for about 3 years. No problems so far.

[shu]

glock26 stoked + sidearmor; 24/7

[dmobrien2001]

G33 with G27 barrel, carried ready to go with no qualms.

[jwmoore]

G19, one in the pipe, SideArmor (http://www.sidearmor.net) IWB. No problems.

~W

[Ken Rainey]

I frequently carry a G26 in the waistband (blue jeans) without a holster. I use a NY1 trigger spring with a 3.5 lb connector to get a steady pull of about 6 lbs instead of the light take up and then the break. Of course, you must have a belt tight enough to hold the pistol steady and as always - never pull the trigger until you intend to shoot! Trigger finger discipline is a must at all times....like my byline - keep it pointed in a safe direction -

A lot of people fear carrying a Glock in the waistband without a holster due to the trigger pull being too light and as far as just the pressure goes it is lighter than others but it also has a longer travel distance to cover before firing - unlike a 5 lb trigger on, lets say a 1911 unlocked with the grip safety disabled (who would do that??).........so it's not that "unsafe" (to me anyway).....I look at it like it's a revolver with more rds available....I like my S&W 60 with the Barami hip grip for times when even less bulk is desired.

Of course, YMMV

Ken

[49hudson]

with 11 rounds of 45+P, carried concealed IWB for 2 or 3 years and it has never fired, unless I pulled the trigger.

[jc2]

it also has a longer travel distance to cover before firing
A half inch is not very much.

[JohnKSa]

With a good holster it's not an issue.

If you have your finger on the trigger while holstering, virtually any gun will discharge--whether it's a short, light SA pull or long hard DA pull--so don't do that. ;)

If you're really paranoid, or if you're using a soft holster, you can carefully put your finger BEHIND the trigger while holstering.

But actually the Glock is pretty unlikely to discharge accidentally (by accidentally, I mean when a finger is NOT on the trigger). The triggerguard is pretty wide compared to the trigger width--if you really look at this next to other pistols you'll note that there's a significant difference. Also, the little lever on the trigger--the much maligned trigger safety--does an excellent job of preventing trigger movement unless something gets squarely in front of the trigger. Something catching on the side of the trigger is not going to do anything. The combination of wide triggerguard and the trigger safety makes trigger snag discharges less likely in the Glock than in many other pistols.

[jc2]

The poster I quoted was talking about carrying IWB without a holster--a very, very bad practice with a Glock.

[JohnKSa]

IWB without a holster--a very, very bad practice with a Glock. I agree. That's not something that I would do--or recommend.

I was responding to the initial question.

[Black Snowman]

I'd be comfortable CCWing (under a large garment) my tuned G24P with it's light trigger BUT I wouldn't chamber a round or I'd carry it in a holster with a thumb break (would have to have one custom made).

I'm more concerned about it falling out and getting snagged on something or if a crook got it away from me having to rack the slide before firing more than an AD and the thumb break holster would give me the extra retension to make me happy.

I've carried it around all day in my home in a belt slide and a shoulder rig but I didn't chamber a round. If I didn't think it would print and it were legal I'd take it on the street too.

All that being said, if I do get CCW my primary will be a CZ-75 Compact with a CZ 2075 RAMI as backup. I have C&L carry as an option and I'm very comfortable and accurate with the CZ guns.

[Mark13]

I carry a G23 IWB. There's no problem as long as you have a holster that covers the trigger guard completely. I think that's a must for any handgun that will fire when you pull the trigger(chamber loaded).

As far as reholstering, I would never remove the pistol from the holster anyway unless I needed it, but you can always slip your finger behind the trigger carefully when reholstering to prevent the possibility of AD.

[MAClarkWA]

I carry my Glock M22 locked and loaded day in and day out, have been for about three years. Never have had an issue with it, infact I have become so comfortable with it I can't imagine carrying anything else.

[denfoote]

Usually, I carry some flavor of Glock. Either 9mm, 10mm, 10mm kurz, or .45ACP. I have no problem with carrying a round in the pipe.
As I am fond of saying: Keep yer fingers off the trigger until yer ready to shoot and you ain't gunna have any problems!! Guns don't do off by themselves, despite what Di Fi would have you believe!!

The NY trigger is a satanic device specified by the most anti gun city in the country to try to make up for the fact that their officers are idiots!!! :banghead:

[WonderNine]

10mm kurz

Do you mean 9mm kurz A.K.A. .380 Auto?

I didn't know .380 Glocks were available here at all even from importers.

[Quintin Likely]

I'm thinking he means .40 S&W.

Anywho, I carry a 19 in a Sidearmor IWB every now and then, no muss, no fuss.

[wally]

If you have your finger on the trigger while holstering, virtually any gun will discharge--whether it's a short, light SA pull or long hard DA pull

Except for a 1911 with the thumb safety engaged.

Most problems seem to be caused by the holster's thumb-break or retension strap. Forbous (sp??) recently had a recall because of a particular tendency of some of their holsters to have the strap naturally bend towards going into the trigger gaurd. I think thier solution was to modifiy it to be too wide to fit.

--wally.

[SouthpawShootr]

During the summer, I carry a Glock 26 in a Hume IWB (haven't got around to getting a sidearmor for this gun yet and the Hume works very well). In the colder months, I tend to carry a Glock 19 in a sidearmor IWB. You do have to be very careful reholstering the gun to make sure nothing gets caught in the triggerguard since if it depresses the trigger safety it can cause an inadvertent triggerpull and fire the gun. Just make sure your holster is clear when reholstering and you'll never have a problem. Sidearmor is the best of the Kydex holsters and I think they're great.

As far as NY triggers, there are two: a NY1 and NY2. The NY1 will increase the trigger pull to 8 pounds. NY2 will increase it to 10 or so (I thought it was 12, but just looked it up in the armorer's manual and it says the NY2 will increase to 4.8 kg which is about 10 pounds). I have the NY1 in my Glock 22 and don't like it at all (my 22 is the only gun that has an NY trigger installed - it's fairly nasty). I wouldn't mess with it unless you are a LEO and your dept requires the NY trigger, but that's just me.

[Captain Bligh]

My primary carry is 1911. But, I have a G 19 that is a 'sometimes' carry gun. I feel very comfortable carrying in a good holster (mines a Milt Sparks VM-II) with a round chambered.

An option that I didn't see discussed her is a trigger block. A device is made for a Glock that slips behind the trigger, preventing its accidental snagging or being depressed. When you want to shoot, you merely poke it out with your finger and you're in business.

I don't think these are popular and widely used by Glockers but they are available and may give you some extra peace of mind if you are worried about it.

RJ

[surfinUSA]

That trigger block thing will get you killed if you need the gun in a hurry. I wouldn't even want to guess at the number of people that in a high stress situation will pull the gun, then the trigger and forget about the block until its too late. You would be a hell of a lot better off with a NY trigger than that dangerous waste of money.

Get a good holster and be done with it or find a gun you're more comfortable with.

[Spieler]

I carry a G17 in a FOBUS paddle holster as my primary carry piece and it has never given me reason for pause. A well-designed quality holster that covers the trigger guard is, of course, a must along with good gun-handling skills and you should have no problems.

[denfoote]

I'm thinking he means .40 S&W.


Ding!! Ding!!! Ding!!! Ding!!! Ding!!! Ding!!!! :D

[RRTX]

I mostly carry a 1911, but when I do carry my G19 I have absolutely no worry about it doing anything I don't want it to

[JohnKSa]

Except for a 1911 with the thumb safety engaged.Well, any gun with a manual safety--IF you assume that the operator remembers to engage the safety. The assumption seems a bit of a stretch since we're assuming that this same fellow wasn't able to remember to keep his finger off the trigger. ;)