So, how many firearms did you destroy today for 'International Gun Destruction Day'?


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Skibane
July 10, 2004, 03:51 AM
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
PRESS RELEASE (http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/document.do?id=80256DD400782B8480256ECA0054D8BD)

AI Index: ACT 30/014/2004 (Public)
News Service No: 171
9 July 2004

Embargo Date: 9 July 200400:01GMT

International Gun Destruction Day marked across the world

Guns are being destroyed around the world today by victims of gun violence marking International Gun Destruction Day. The grass-roots action comes as the Control Arms Campaign (Oxfam, Amnesty International and IANSA -- the International Action Network on Small Arms) publishes figures showing that there is now one gun for every ten people on the planet. On average 800,000 guns are destroyed every year, but the scale of the problem of unregulated guns remains enormous - for every one gun that is destroyed another ten new guns are created.

Weapons in the wrong hands cause hundreds of thousands of deaths and many more casualties every year. Unregulated guns are involved in crime, killings, forced displacement, rape and torture across the world.

"Gun Destruction Day is a time when ordinary people across the world take positive action to tackle the gun problem head on. But with ten new guns produced for every one destroyed, ordinary people's efforts are being undermined by governments' refusal to act - a case of one-step forward ten steps back. Without an international Arms Trade Treaty, local efforts to address the problem will continue to be sabotaged by government inaction and guns will continue to get into the wrong hands" said Barbara Stocking, Director of Oxfam.

Figures show that:

* There are approximately 640 million guns in circulation -- one for every ten people.

* Around eight million new guns are made every year.

* Approximately 14 billion rounds of military ammunition are made every year -- two bullets for every person.

* Small arms are produced by 1249 companies in more than 90 countries. In some of these countries trade controls are almost non-existent.

* For the two biggest arms producers -- USA and Russia -- production of military style guns is increasing.

* Far from destroying old and surplus weapons, most states resell their surplus weaponry thus ensuring the ever-increasing proliferation of guns across the world.

* Only three countries in the world (Nigeria, Latvia and South Africa) have a policy of destroying all surplus or confiscated weapons. There are well-documented cases of sold-off weapons ending up in the hands of criminals and rebels.

* On average, around one million guns are lost or stolen every year.

* Hundreds of thousands of guns are lost by state forces every year.

* Iraq was the most extreme example, when millions of weapons were looted in 2003. At least 650,000 tons of weaponry and explosives were captured by US and Allied forces from abandoned military depots across Iraq, but this was barely guarded and much was looted.

"Every day millions of men, women, and children live in fear of armed violence. The proliferation of unregulated guns not only jeopardizes people's fundamental right to life, but also denies millions the right to a decent standard of living, health services and education. The global trade in arms must be brought under control," said Irene Khan, Secretary General of Amnesty International.

Survivors of gun violence, victims' families and arms campaigners are destroying guns across the world:

* In Brazil 6,500 illegal firearms confiscated by police will be destroyed by Viva Rio, the Brazilian Army, and the Rio state government. Oscar Niemeyer, the famous Brazilian architect, will use the destroyed guns to make a monument to peace.

* In South Africa gun control groups will be working with the government to publicly destroy a cache of illegal arms. This will mark the coming into force of the new firearms control act - aiming to drain the pool of arms in communities.

* In the UK families who have lost their children to armed violence will be using a steamroller to crush 300 symbolic guns in London.

* In Cambodia, a flame of peace ceremony will be held at which 4,000 illegal and surplus weapons will be destroyed.

International gun destruction day marks the culmination of the Global Week of Action Against Small Arms, in which groups in over 40 countries across the world have taken the initiative to challenge armed violence in their communities.

"It is conventional weapons that are the real weapons of mass destruction. It's about time that governments put as much effort into controlling the arms trade as they do trying to stop the spread of WMD" said Rebecca Peters, IANSA Director.

Notes:
International Gun Destruction Day was established by the UN in 2001. The figures above are based on the Small Arms Survey 2004.

For more information visit www.controlarms.org

Contacts:

Oxfam:
Brendan Cox
+ 44 1865 31 498
Mobile: + 44 7957 120 853
bcox@oxfam.org.uk

IANSA:
Emile LeBrum:
+ 31 20 427 7754
Mobile: + 31 6 4848 2004

Amnesty International:
James Dyson
+ 44 20 7 413 5831
jdyson@amnesty.org

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Amnesty International, 1 Easton St., London WC1X 0DW. web: http://www.amnesty.org

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Oleg Volk
July 10, 2004, 03:53 AM
As a child, I admired Oscar Niemeyer's designs. As an adult, I despise his use of government programs for his own unsavory ends. What a waste of talent!

Skibane
July 10, 2004, 04:28 AM
Replica guns crushed in protest

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3879637.stm)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40365000/jpg/_40365897_gundestructionpa_203.jpg
Four parents took part in destroying the fake guns

Three hundred replica guns have been destroyed in London as part of a campaign to reduce the number of small arms around the world.

They were steamrollered in a bid to pressure ministers to sign a treaty curbing the trade in handheld weapons.

Mick North, whose daughter Sophie was killed at Dunblane eight years ago, is a member of the Gun Control Network.

He said the UK was a major arms seller and adding to numbers of guns in the world was 'just lunacy'.

"The United Kingdom is the second largest exporter of arms and among the largest sellers of small arms," he told the Today programme.

"There are various controls around the world but there are no agreed restrictions ... and the United Kingdom government should sign up to a trade treaty to show it takes seriously the millions upon millions of guns in circulation around the world."

Destruction Day

"To continue adding more to that mass of weapons is just lunacy" - Mick North, father of Dunblane victim

The groups Mothers Against Guns, Oxfam and Amnesty International were involved in the action, as well as the Gun Control Network.

Four parents whose children were killed by small arms took part in destroying the weapons.

The event was part of Gun Destruction Day, established by the United Nations in 2001. In some countries, real weapons are being destroyed.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40365000/jpg/_40365999_gundestruction2pa_203.jpg
The protest's aim is to pressure MPs to sign a small arms treaty

The Gun Control Network says there are now about 640 million guns in circulation - or around one gun for every 10 people in the world.

"To continue adding more to that mass of weapons is just lunacy," Mr North said.

He says the current system of 'end user certificates', which record to whom consignments of small arms are sold, is not strict enough.

"Guns are very durable objects and can get passed from one hand to another, so even if they initially end up in the hands you want them to, there are no guarantees they won't go elsewhere."

Figures quoted by the groups involved in Wednesday's rally say up to a million guns are lost or stolen every year worldwide.

c_yeager
July 10, 2004, 04:51 AM
They couldnt even find any real guns? And they still think they have some kind of imaginary problem?

On a side note i actually managed to lose the tension spring from my adjustable sighted Makarov today. So i guess i kinda participated.

Dionysusigma
July 10, 2004, 05:31 AM
I've never been a fan of genocide. :mad:

I find it funny, though, that in order to "reduce crime around the world" they had to use fakes. Makes 'bout as much sense as a girl painted like a tiger and sitting in a cage. :rolleyes:

natedog
July 10, 2004, 05:57 AM
120,000,000 unarmed people were murdered at the hands of their own governments in the 20th Century alone (about 1/4 of those were murdered under the UNs watch, too).

And they say private ownership of arms leads to "crime, killings, forced displacement, rape and torture across the world"? No armed people were taken to Auschwitz.

The_Antibubba
July 10, 2004, 06:31 AM
Through wear and tear, of course! :D

Mulliga
July 10, 2004, 09:32 AM
Whoops. Thought they meant 'International Ammunition Expenditure Day'! ;)

El Tejon
July 10, 2004, 10:08 AM
:rolleyes:

"The swords must be destroyed." I'm going to find this and post it.

boofus
July 10, 2004, 10:22 AM
Pathetic. :barf:

Partisan Ranger
July 10, 2004, 11:03 AM
Way to go guys. The criminals of the world will give you all a nice golf clap for disarming yourselves.

cobb
July 10, 2004, 11:34 AM
Where have I been? :confused:

This is the first time I have ever heard of this and I like to believe that I usually have an idea on what is going on with these nuts.

flatrock
July 10, 2004, 12:23 PM
Approximately 14 billion rounds of military ammunition are made every year -- two bullets for every person.

Obviously people are not spending enough time training with their firearms. This is an issue that should be addressed.

standingbear
July 10, 2004, 01:15 PM
why is it a picture of an ak47 or an m16 that is used to prove the point...what if the pic had the 4 standing around a double barrel..the intent is the same ..banning guns right,ultimatly,this is what the goal is right?


must be a flash and awe thing.

Nightfall
July 10, 2004, 01:31 PM
... for every one gun that is destroyed another ten new guns are created.
Did that give anybody else the warm-fuzzies? :D

Chipperman
July 10, 2004, 01:36 PM
"Did that give anybody else the warm-fuzzies"

Unfortunately, NO, because in many cases the old guns are better than the new ones being produced. :(

ny32182
July 10, 2004, 01:59 PM
I destroyed ZERO guns, replica or otherwise, on July 9th.

Kilroy
July 10, 2004, 04:26 PM
I am working at destroying the barrels. I am going to run copper through them until the rifling is gone, making it useless.

Another useful symbolic gesture...

pinblaster
July 10, 2004, 05:00 PM
I think we should have an international buy a gun day. If you don't have the money to buy a gun at least go out and shoot one. :D

captain obvious
July 10, 2004, 05:34 PM
Some of us do have such a day - it's April 15th

Fatcat
July 10, 2004, 05:43 PM
Bwahah.. nope, I ordered an LMT lower to start my new AR build yesterday. :D

Warren
July 10, 2004, 06:39 PM
When is it going to be "International Kick the Crap Out of a Mime Day"?


I could really get into that.


That imaginary box ain't gonna save you, suspenders boy!

mec
July 10, 2004, 09:14 PM
"120,000,000 unarmed people were murdered at the hands of their own governments in the 20th Century alone (about 1/4 of those were murdered under the UNs watch, too).

And they say private ownership of arms leads to "crime, killings, forced displacement, rape and torture across the world"? No armed people were taken to Auschwitz."


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There you have it. Of course the gun control clubbies have to have something do to when they're not sitting in front of the television masticating comfort food, pumping hydrogen sulfide and methane between their oleagenous buttocks and whining about how the government dont give them more stuff.

Standing Wolf
July 10, 2004, 09:35 PM
There are approximately 640 million guns in circulation -- one for every ten people.

Nowhere near enough!

Skibane
July 10, 2004, 09:37 PM
Some of us do have such a day - it's April 15th

In years past, July 9th has also been "Buy-A-Gun Day" – as a slap at the U.N. and this particular absurdity.

Warren
July 10, 2004, 10:06 PM
I'll be picking up my first real gun on the 12th, so I'm in the ballpark.

Black_Talon
July 10, 2004, 10:28 PM
Hah! They can kiss my hairy behind, 'cause I bought a new gun yesterday. Just trying to do my part for RKBA!

Shanghai McCoy
July 10, 2004, 11:08 PM
I hope to destroy some blackpowder tomorrow.Doe's that count....:D

iamkris
July 11, 2004, 01:02 AM
I am sending this to Amnesty International

Thank you for bringing to my attention the "International Gun Destruction Day". In honor of this lunacy, I have made the following acquisitions all within a week of July 9th.

* Para Ordnance P14.45 LDA Limited
* Springfield 1903A3 (manufactured by Remington and in really cherry condition..by the way, sold to me by a department of the US Government)
* No 4 Mk I Enfield

By the way, regarding your press release:

* One arm per ten people? Why that's ridiculous...I have over 30 guns and I'm only one person.

* In a similar fashion, 2 rounds per person...you can't shoot with that at all...I have over 4000 rounds of 7.62x51mm alone!! I have over 8 calibers in my armory so you can imagine the stockpile!

Anyway, enjoy your celebration...I've certainly enjoyed my response.

EWTHeckman
July 11, 2004, 03:03 AM
Weapons in the wrong hands cause hundreds of thousands of deaths and many more casualties every year. Unregulated guns are involved in crime, killings, forced displacement, rape and torture across the world.

And weapons in the right hands prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths and many more casualties every year. Hard-working, law-abiding citizens use them to prevent crime, killings, forced displacement, rape and torture across the world.

WonderNine
July 11, 2004, 05:53 AM
I don't know, but I won a gunbroker auction that day, so I guess as soon as I get it I'll have to melt down the barrel. :D

@ iamkris

:D :D :D :D

1911Tuner
July 11, 2004, 06:03 AM
After reading this, I was so moved that I plan on puttin' all of mine
to the torch...Don't want the evil, filthy things around me any more.
I expect everybody here to follow my lead and join the ranks of the
progressive and enlightened folks who spoke up and took a stand
against all those violent, out of control guns. We simply can't have those things layin' around in vaults, layin' their evil plans to destroy the world.

Let's do it for the children! Let's do it for the whales! Let's do it for
the spotted owls! Let's do it so we can all live in peace, forevermore
unafraid of the scourge that is worse than the Black Plague!

Come on! Let's just do it!

WonderNine
July 11, 2004, 06:10 AM
I have to admit.....everytime I give a certain CZ-52 of mine a dirty look more rust appears on the backstrap. I guess maybe I'm doing my part.

jefnvk
July 11, 2004, 12:49 PM
Far from destroying old and surplus weapons, most states resell their surplus weaponry thus ensuring the ever-increasing proliferation of guns across the world.

And I thank them for leting me buy 3 guns for $350. Quality guns, as well. Cant beat the price to quality ration on some of the old military guns

4v50 Gary
July 11, 2004, 12:51 PM
buy one today.:p

TamThompson
July 11, 2004, 05:40 PM
...marking my calendar for July 5th, 2005. IF we still have a Constitution and an intact Bill of Rights at that point, I'll buy another gun. If not---I'll buy one anyway, since I'll need lots of them at that point. <KIDDING!> :)

DevilDog
July 12, 2004, 11:27 AM
I'd like a movement in the pro-RKBA groups to

Have a "enroll in a gun class" day.
Have a "practice with your favorite firearm" day.
Have a "teach someone firearm safety" day.

So my personal response to "International Gun Destruction Day" is - 1) I coached at a high power rifle clinic this last Saturday. 2) Educated a couple folks on the folly of the AWB, its potential renewal/expiration 3) Will try to get in a CCW class in the next couple of months and of course 4) buy another!

TheEgg
July 12, 2004, 03:14 PM
Only three countries in the world (Nigeria, Latvia and South Africa) have a policy of destroying all surplus or confiscated weapons.

Yes, of course, Nigeria, Latvia, and South Africa, the sole lights of truth, liberty, and justice, in a dark world.:barf:

Diggler
July 12, 2004, 03:27 PM
Approximately 14 billion rounds of military ammunition are made every year -- two bullets for every person.That is just HORRIBLE! I mean, how can you perform a successful Mozambique with only two bullets??

jnojr
July 12, 2004, 08:40 PM
Jeez, I wish I'd known. I would have done my part by destroying several hundred rounds of ammunition!

kulika
July 12, 2004, 08:47 PM
:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

It just so happens that on July 9th I stopped by my local shop and the owner had a newly-acquired used SA revolver calling out to me. Had I known what day it was, I would have purchased something else to commemorate the day. Once the damn 10-day wait period is over, I will have to really celebrate with a few boxes of ammo. There must have been some cosmic reason that I happened by on that particular day.


:neener: :neener: :neener:

schizrade
July 12, 2004, 09:13 PM
:D
On the 9th I did my part by disposing of 20 rounds of .308 (breakin' in), 150 shotgun shells (or so) and around 200 rounds of .45 "Kop Killa" bullets. Everyday should be ammo disposal day for all the nations big and small. Keep crime off the streets by using up excess ammo so the dirty bad guys can't get to it first!

I hereby declare that the start of the ammo disposal season begins tonite at midnight and goes until July 12, 2005 at 11.50PM (to give 10 minutes for reflection on a great ammo disposal season.) This will continue on indefinately until guns are replaced by phasers and we can partake in fuel-cell disposal season!

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Sistema1927
July 12, 2004, 10:04 PM
What a hoot!

While these folks were destroying weapons, I preserved one on July 9th by purchasing it off of the used gun rack at my local gun store (and I didn't even know the significance of the day).

A very nice ca. 1975 Marlin 336 in 30-30. I picked it up for $182.50 (after telling them that I would pay no more than $200 including tax.)

Now I need to try to destroy it by expending large quantities of ammo through it.

Roadkill Coyote
July 12, 2004, 10:21 PM
"Hundreds of thousands of guns are lost by state forces every year"

So all their hard work is going to be undone by governmental efficiency in what, about the next fifteen minutes?

:rolleyes:

667
July 13, 2004, 01:30 AM
"...for every one gun that is destroyed, another ten new guns are created."
You gotta love the math! hahahaha

GSB
July 13, 2004, 09:25 AM
There are approximately 640 million guns in circulation -- one for every ten people.

This is a very misleading statistic because almost half of those are owned by Tamara.

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