[Drakejake]

I fired some for the first time yesterday. The shot was no. 12 and very fine. It is labeled bird shot. Could one actually kill a bird with this stuff? Do .22 shot shells come with bigger shot?

Thanks,

Drakejake

[cookhj]

i believe that no.12 shot is standard in pistol shotshells. you can kill birds and squirrels with it, but you have to be really close. the rifling in the barrel spins the shot, and when it exits the bore, it produces an extremely wide shot pattern.

[Snowdog]

During the great invasion a couple years back, I used Winchester and CCI shotshells (I prefer Winchester's offering) to drive back the imperialistic rat horde that attempted to overtake my shed. I made the mistake of storing dry dog food there which transformed them into great beasts of mythical proportions.

Out of a Romanian training rifle, both Winchester and CCI shotshells would dispatch rats the size of hampsters within 15'. Though it typically wouldn't be a quick kill, they would be thoroughly incapacitated after the shot, as not to run off and stink the place up days later.

I'd have to agree with cookhj, the shot pattern was around 12" at 10' out of the Romanian training rifle, and far more from a Marlin M60. One other point I'd like to mention is that Winchester's crimp-style shotshells are not only cheaper, but more stoutly built than CCI's shot capsule design and significantly hotter, though the patters seem to clump together in groups.

[abrahamsmith]

Fantastic for those incredibly annoying chipmunks, under 10-20 yards off the porch.... not very loud out of a 29" rifle bbl.

The crimp kind are much better than the cci capsule ones.

[mrt]

abrahamsmith, if your still around, where can we buy those crimped ones? Who sells them today?
I checked out Winchester's site and could not find any .22 shot.
thx

[sm]

Years ago had to take an Intro to Art Class. Mind you, I'm doing good to write, forget about being artistic. Never did I dream that we would have to actually do something artistic.

We had just finished studying Pollack, and we HAD to do this project. Not required to be done at school...thankfully, because...

Using the Winchester crimped shot shells I shot at poster boards. I then spray painted through these onto another poster board.

Turned out really well, rec'd an A and I never told how I did it. Anyone ever see something like that going for a lot dough, let me know...I want my $ :D

Didn't figure Art instructor would appreciate the rat infestation I had controlled...didn't turn that 'project' in.

Yeah, the Winchester crimped are still out there as are the Federals. I bought 4 months ago all the Winchester's ,Sport's Authority had. I prefer these.

[abrahamsmith]

I just pick them up at the local shop or hardware store. I vaguely remember a green box, so I think I've used Federal sometimes.

[Blueduck]

I have a "peace be with you" attitude towards all snakes except copperheads in my own yard (dog's+kids around). I've used CCI .22 shotshells which the only ones I can find in my area. Mediocore results even at very close range. Thats with a handgun mind you, rifle might be better....

[Sven]

We had just finished studying Pollack, and we HAD to do this project. Not required to be done at school...thankfully, because...

I'm glad your post didn't go the route I thought it was heading.... =)

Shotshells.... varmints... Pollack...

-s

[goon]

The long barrel of a rifle does add a little range, but not much.
You would either have to be real close or real lucky to kill a squirrel with one. I have seen them fall from 50' up out of a tree, and still run when they hit the ground.
Tough little beasties...

My dad sometimes uses them to frighten feral and wild animals when they get too comfortable around the house. They don't really have much effect at the range that he uses them at, but the noise coupled with a slight sting somewhere usually does the trick. I know that the only things that I have ever killed with them are snakes. Well, I have also knocked off a couple of big spiders with them.
Big spiders are fast, but not that fast.

[PeacefulWarrior]

Had to use two of them to try to kill a snake in my dads piegon coop a few years back.After two shots and zero effect on the snake I switched to .22 hollowpoints which did a much better job. I threw the rest of the box away.

[Jim K]

The use in art is a new one and really ingenious. Other users are the dealers in fake "antique" furniture. They use the shotshells to make "worm holes" for an authentic aged appearance.

Jim

[sm]

Sven: I was alluding to being able to bring guns onto a College Campus.

Jim Keenan: Yes I'm aware of that little "antique trick", at one time we had some 'interior decorators' next door to my dad's business.

I named my work, Patterns. Displayed in the school Art Gallery for a bit, along with all the other-ahem-"art" our class did.

Not that I would ever procrastinate homework, and be out shooting, and scramble for an idea...on a Sunday afternoon down at a friends farm. John Deere Green, Ford Blue, Caterpillar Yellow, Chevy Orange,Snapper Red...hey, and 'artiste" uses whatever colors are in the repair shed --thankfully there was some black posterboard.