Tiger on the loose in Florida


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WT
July 13, 2004, 02:50 PM
A change from the boring bear defense threads .............
What would you use against a tiger? Maybe a .22 long rifle???


By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

July 13, 2004

LOXAHATCHEE, Fla. (AP) -- A 600-pound tiger eluded capture for a second day Tuesday after escaping from the compound of its owner, a former actor who once played Tarzan.

Deputy sheriffs and state game officials set up a perimeter around a search area and started beating the bush again at daybreak, said Willie Puz, spokesman for the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.

The 6-year-old tiger was spotted several times, most recently around 7:30 a.m. Tuesday by a woman who said it was in her back yard. Officials hoped it would simply grow hungry and return home in search of food, Puz said.

The tiger was reported missing Monday afternoon from the home of Steve Sipek, who played Tarzan decades ago under the screen name Steve Hawkes, said Paul Miller, spokesman for the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. Sipek has raised the tiger since it was a cub.

When the first deputies arrived on the scene Monday, the cat jumped on top of their car, Miller said. Puz said searchers who spotted it several times Monday evening were never close enough to shoot it with tranquilizer darts.

Though law enforcement officers were available to escort nervous residents away from the area, Puz said officials were encouraging people to ``go about their normal business.''

``The tiger has only roamed about 200 yards from its home, which means it's not out free-roaming all over,'' he said.

Sipek has another tiger, two lions, a black leopard and a cougar on his property, the Palm Beach Post reported. The cats, mostly castoffs from zoos, are usually kept in a mazelike series of interlocking cages.

In February 2002, a 750-pound tiger mauled a woman who was helping Sipek during a photo shoot at his compound. She was bit on the head.

In 1985, a tame, three-legged black leopard belonging to Sipek eluded searchers for nearly three days before being found wandering near a fence on his property.

Sipek said at the time that he had been devoted to the big cats ever since one pulled him from a fire during the filming of a Tarzan movie.

According to the Internet Movie Data Base, ``Steve Hawkes'' played Tarzan in a series of Spanish-language Tarzan movies around 1970 and was called Zan of the Jungle when they were released in English. He retired from acting after an on-set accident, it said.

His property is about 15 miles west of Palm Beach. It is bordered by other similar sized estates and mini-ranches, many with livestock. Canals and wooded areas and scrubby brush surround the homes that sit on five-acre lots off dirt roads. Lion County Safari and the swampy Loxahatchee National Wildlife Refuge are a few miles away.

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Vern Humphrey
July 13, 2004, 03:12 PM
"60 Minutes" did a bit on people who keep tigers (shot in Texas, as I recall.)

One thing impressed me -- they showed some people standing in front of a pen full of tigers and pointed out "Notice how the tigers can't take their eyes off the children."

I think I'd at least carry my Colt New Service, in .45 Colt, if I lived around there.

My neighbor saw a cougar day before yesterday, and we have several bears roaming the valley where I live. Them, I don't really mind. A tiger is something else again.

Preacherman
July 13, 2004, 03:13 PM
When the first deputies arrived on the scene Monday, the cat jumped on top of their car
Heeeeeeerre, kitty, kitty, kitty... :D

sm
July 13, 2004, 03:22 PM
Why I am thinking of Rich with a Double Rifle...here kitty kitty ...SWAT !

Ransom
July 13, 2004, 03:22 PM
Back when I was a kid we'd take field trips to the zoo and stand at the tiger cage with our backs agianst the plexiglass window. The tiger would chage and slam into it. We thought it was pretty cool.

middy
July 13, 2004, 03:28 PM
Back when I was a kid we'd take field trips to the zoo and stand at the tiger cage with our backs agianst the plexiglass window. The tiger would chage and slam into it. We thought it was pretty cool.
Yeah, the tiger almost always goes for the back of the head/neck (just ask Roy). In India, some of the locals in tiger country wear masks on the backs of their heads to discourage tiger attacks. It seems to work most of the time.
What would you use against a tiger?
I wouldn't be comfortable with anything less than a BAR.

Vern Humphrey
July 13, 2004, 03:33 PM
Not far from here, in Quitman, Arkansas, there is a fellow who keeps big cats. He does it "to provide them a home."

Someone tried to give him five lions, and when he had no room, the guy went down the road, and just dumped the lions like some people dump unwanted cats and dogs. You can imagine the uproar when locals began seeing African lions in their pastures and woodlots.

The local sheriff and his deputies hunted them down and used M1As to dispatch them.

dhoomonyou
July 13, 2004, 04:11 PM
When the first deputies arrived on the scene Monday, the cat jumped on top of their car, Miller said.



I think those deputies might need some clean undies ( I know I would)

JamisJockey
July 13, 2004, 04:36 PM
In February 2002, a 750-pound tiger mauled a woman who was helping Sipek during a photo shoot at his compound. She was bit on the head.

This morning, Fox was reporting it was the same Tiger. Not that "fair and balanced" necessarily means "accurate"...though....


Sidearm: minimum of .44 mag
Rifle: Shotgun with slugs, or a big "double" rifle like they hunt with in Africa.

Detachment Charlie
July 13, 2004, 06:54 PM
I am, once again, puzzled. Please, a little help here.
I can not have a bayonet lug on my AK because it's dangerour, but I can keep a 600# tiger around the house.

OK. Now I got it all figgered out. Here it is. For home defense, I am sellin all my guns and buying a tiger. :rolleyes:

41mag
July 13, 2004, 07:11 PM
Detachment Charlie IIRC big cat keeping in FL is about like AWB bayonet lugs.The existing ones were grandfathered in after an '88 law banning new exotics.No new ones allowed.
Or,I'm a total dunce & am confusing this w/something else.:uhoh:

Standing Wolf
July 13, 2004, 07:17 PM
Officials hoped it would simply grow hungry and return home in search of food, Puz said.

Much the same could be said of representatives of the Democratic (sic) party—except they never go home and never seem to be able to devour enough.

Vern Humphrey
July 13, 2004, 07:47 PM
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Officials hoped it would simply grow hungry and return home in search of food, Puz said.
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Or wander into a kindergarten and grab a quick snack.

Bobarino
July 13, 2004, 07:54 PM
no more tiger. all gone. just heard that it was shot and killed on radio news. no word on what kind of zombie killing weapon it was that administered the lethal blow.

Bobby

VaughnT
July 13, 2004, 08:47 PM
Sorry the critter had to be put down, but let's not let this stop us from deciding on the optimum weapons payload.

Remember that you have to have a backup to your longarm of choice.


I'm going with a Remmie or Mossy SG, with slugs, and my Colt .45 or S&W 686.....though I'm not sure what I'd load them with. How thick/thin is the skin on a tiger? How fast can they move?

jeff-10
July 13, 2004, 09:10 PM
I don't live too far from where it took place at. The local radio station this morning was interviewing some guy who was out looking for it, he was carrying a 9mm.

Splat Shot
July 13, 2004, 09:16 PM
"Puz said searchers who spotted it several times Monday evening were never close enough to shoot it with tranquilizer darts"

These people are nuts. "Not close enough for darts" means to me close enough for some guy on the SWAT team to kill the thing before it eats someone. Why are they even thinking darts? I don't care how tame it is. Am I missing something here?

feedthehogs
July 13, 2004, 09:38 PM
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Sindawe
July 13, 2004, 09:40 PM
Never get off the boat man! Never get of the &$%@$ boat!

Of all the big cats, tigers are my favorite, since they habitually to uncat like things like swimming by choice. Darn shame that cat had to be killed, at least before it taught the chap with the 9mm the error of incorrect caliber choice for large, dangerous animals.

Erik Jensen
July 13, 2004, 10:04 PM
A tiger that escaped from the home of a movie actor who once played Tarzan was shot and killed Tuesday after it lunged at a state wildlife officer who was trying to capture it.

President Bush was confused when the wildlife officers in Florida said that the escaped tiger had been spotted, because he was "pretty sure" that tigers had stripes. :neener:

kernal_panic
July 13, 2004, 11:13 PM
Dumb asses used a .223 caliber M4 carbine. Owner was there when they shot it said the didn't even try to tranq it just opened up on the cat.

now you guys know me and my opinion of big dangerous pussy cats. if i felt threatened for felt the cat ws threatening or was going to be dangerous in the near future to others i'd cap his behind too. But not even try to tranq it when you are prepared and equiped to do so is wrong.

Browns Fan
July 14, 2004, 07:11 PM
That's strange, I read that the tiger was sot witha shotgun...

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