(DC) As Man Lay Dying, Witnesses Turned Away


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February 15, 2003, 12:02 PM
As Man Lay Dying, Witnesses Turned Away

By David A. Fahrenthold
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 15, 2003; Page A01


D.C. police released a startling surveillance tape yesterday that shows a daylight killing at a Northeast Washington gas station and witnesses doing nothing to report the crime or tend to the victim as he lay bleeding on the concrete.

The videotape, from the Hess station in the 500 block of Florida Avenue, shows in gruesome detail the Jan. 31 slaying of Allen E. Price, 43, of the 2100 block of Fourth Street NW. Police said they were shocked by the apathy of those who were there, including one man who continued pumping kerosene after looking briefly at Price's body.

At a time when homicide detectives are struggling to solve cases, police officials said the tape depicts the astounding levels of meanness and indifference they confront on the city's streets. Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, police and prosecutors watched numerous cases collapse as witnesses were shot or intimidated. In this instance, several people at the gas station did not appear to be frightened but seemed not to care after the shot was fired and the gunman ran.

"That's just one of the worst things I've ever seen," Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey declared yesterday after screening the tape at police headquarters. "There just aren't words to describe something like that."

The shooting happened quickly and with no apparent warning near the large Florida Avenue market complex, in a crime-ridden area just blocks from Gallaudet University. The snippet of color videotape that police released -- taken by a camera positioned atop the gas station -- begins at 9:08 a.m., with traffic passing steadily on the avenue and several cars in view at the station.

At 9:09 a.m., the shooter appears at a distance, walking up Sixth Street on the far side of Florida Avenue. He appears to be a man in a black coat, but the image is blurry. He weaves through traffic on Florida Avenue and appears to run the last few feet toward the kerosene pump where Price was standing. Police have analyzed the video frame by frame, and Ramsey provided a running commentary, stating: "Boom! That's the gunshot."

Price then drops from view, and the gunman runs back across the Florida Avenue and disappears from sight.

A homicide lieutenant said yesterday that the killer is believed to have targeted Price. Police have announced no motive or suspects.

After the shooting, one witness -- who was just feet away from the gunman -- looked for a moment at Price's body and then turned away. Not only did he finish pumping his kerosene, but the man paid for the purchase and drove off, giving the camera its clearest look at Price lying by the pump. Police have not found that customer.

For the next few minutes, the camera records a series of cars pulling away from the station, with at least one new car pulling up to the kerosene pump where Price lay. But it is not until about 9:13, more than three minutes after the shooting, that the gas station's manager is seen approaching the body.

The manager, Philip Donkorsaid yesterday that he did not hear the gunshot from his bulletproof booth and was not aware of the shooting until a customer told him. He said he found Price on his back.

"He's dead. His eyes open. His mouth open," Donkor said. "Right then, I saw that he was dead."

Police said that someone in the area finally flagged down a police car, and it arrived about seven minutes after the shooting.

The first 911 call was not made until 9:36 a.m., but police did not reveal who made it. Donkor said he tried to call 911 immediately after he was told about the shooting but got a recording and hung up.

Ramsey has been criticized by D.C. Council members and others for rising homicide totals and for homicide clearance rates that are lower than the average for other cities. The chief has contended that witnesses who could help police get killers off the streets do not come forward.

"This is the kind of thing that we're up against," Ramsey said. "To have someone walk by as if nothing occurred is frustrating."

U.S. Attorney Roscoe C. Howard Jr. echoed that complaint, saying that relatively few slayings in the District occur in secluded spots. But witnesses simply won't come forward, he said, adding, "If you've got 262 murders in a year, and you're not able to solve half of them," reluctant witnesses must be an issue.

Still, former D.C. police chief Isaac Fulwood Jr., who oversaw the department when crack cocaine led to a surge in killings in the late 1980s and early 1990s, said the reaction to Price's death amazed him.

"Something's wrong, I mean, something's very wrong and callous, and [it] is getting worse," Fulwood said.

Julia Dunkins, chief executive of Survivors of Homicide Inc., said people from across the city have become desensitized to death. "We have to stop saying, 'My community isn't like this. This kind of thing could not happen in my area,' " Dunkins said.

Louis R. Mizell Jr., a security consultant who maintains a 40,000-category database on crimes, said similar episodes have unfolded throughout the country.

"We record hundreds of cases nationwide each year in which people witnessed horrible crimes but react with depraved indifference, refusing to intervene or even call 911," Mizell said. "The encouraging news, however, is that we record thousands of cases in which people did get involved, often heroically and at their own peril."

Along Florida Avenue, other merchants said they were not shocked by the crime or the behavior of the witnesses.

At Coast In Liquors, a clerk said he could remember an attempted robbery two years ago in which a man came after him with a stick and then threw bricks at his windows.

Outside the store, people stopped to watch but did nothing to intervene, he said.

"Nobody [was] trying to help," said the clerk, who wouldn't give his name. "They were looking. You know how people do."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10391-2003Feb14.html

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P12
February 15, 2003, 12:30 PM
What do you expect from a neutered public that can't risk stepping up to the plate. The risk? The government wants them to step up to the plate without a bat! And now the government wonders why no one, wants to or is willing to get involved.

DUH!:rolleyes:

How can they defend themselves if retaliation occurs for helping.:fire:

No one in DC has a fighting chance. Period. :cuss: How stupid would it be to just hurl yourself at the ball?

TallPine
February 15, 2003, 12:36 PM
The reason that people ignored this apparent shooting murder is that it never happened.

That's right - it COULDN'T have happened, because, as everyone knows, no guns are allowed inside the District of Columbia.

pax
February 15, 2003, 01:59 PM
Hmmmm, I should dig up the thread titled, "Would you intervene?"

Bet most the reasons people on this board gave for not intervening as a woman was being dragged to her death would be the same ones given by the witnesses in this murder. To wit:

1) I'm not a cop/it's not my job.

2) The BG will kill me if I do anything.

3) The lawyers will eat me alive if I get involved.

4) My job is to take care of myself and my loved ones, not to risk myself for some stranger.

Bet that's pretty well what the witnesses were thinking.

pax

jimpeel
February 15, 2003, 02:03 PM
The first 911 call was not made until 9:36 a.m., but police did not reveal who made it. Donkor said he tried to call 911 immediately after he was told about the shooting but got a recording and hung up.

http://jpfo.org/dial911-small.jpg

tyme
February 15, 2003, 02:13 PM
"Let the police protect society."
"If you see a crime, take action."
:confused:

http://www.emergency.com/er-violn.htm
http://www.lapdonline.org/releases/2000/04/wil3.htm
http://www.nuzhound.com/articles/irish_news/arts2002/nov7_belfasts_bloody_sunday.php (1/3 of the way through)

This killing of good samaritans isn't unique to areas that essentially ban most people from protecting themselves.

http://iafrica.com/news/sa/17062.htm
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20020724-011928-8368r.htm (last blurb)
http://domenici.senate.gov/legislation/record.cfm?id=186854

Diesle
February 15, 2003, 03:08 PM
pax,

The circumstances of that thread were a hell of a lot different. It was a live fire situation with 2 or more BG's blah blah blah..... Don’t be a pinhead... Ohh, sorry, I mean instigator....


Diesle

wingman
February 15, 2003, 05:01 PM
sad, but in our greed ridden society better have some bucks and a good
lawyer before becoming involved .!!

Chris Rhines
February 15, 2003, 05:07 PM
Bet that's pretty well what the witnesses were thinking. Rightfully so. That's roughly what I would have been thinking.

Taking the disarmed bystanders to task, in an enviroment that is pretty much ruled by criminals, and where retaliation against witnesses is commonplace, is disingenious at best.

- Chris

DeltaElite
February 15, 2003, 07:03 PM
I hope they are all ashamed of themselves and lose alot of sleep for their cowardice.

Justify it all you want, but if you are not willing to help your fellow man, then you are pathetic.

Flame away :neener:

dance varmint
February 15, 2003, 07:48 PM
All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.

Are you a man or a mouse?

Match point, our side.

Bob Locke
February 15, 2003, 07:54 PM
Good thing Mr. Price obeyed the gun laws and allowed himself to be shot to death with no possibility of defense. Wouldn't have wanted to read a story about a citizen gunning down a bad guy and ending up in jail for having an unauthorized firearm. :barf:

The people standing around still should have rendered assistance after the fact, though. But I guess they're nothing more than products of their environment, and that environment says that the police are supposed to handle such matters.

Rotten D.C. bastards (not the citizens, but the people running the place)...

El Tejon
February 15, 2003, 08:00 PM
pax, this is far removed from the GSC fantasy of rushing off to start a gunfight as in the previous "would you start a gunfight and shoot a cop" thread? They should be ashamed for not cooperating.

You have a duty to report a crime. You have a duty to cooperate with the po-po and the prosecuting attorney.

pax
February 15, 2003, 08:18 PM
Chris,

One reason I like you is because you're honest with yourself about your motives. No whining, "but that's different!" or anything. :)

Diesle,

You'll note that I made no real value judgement. I only pointed out that the reasons given in that other thread not to intervene in an ongoing kidnap/murder pretty well paralleled the likely reasons the witnesses would give not to get involved in this case.

El Tejon,

If it's different, please explain how it is different. Does the presence of a law change the moral imperative? Why or why not?

pax

You're only outgunned if you miss. – Jeff Cooper

El Tejon
February 15, 2003, 08:46 PM
pax, yes, it's different in that someone is responding to something after-the-fact, not initiating a fight as in the previous thread. The law is not void, not even in a GSC fantasy. You call the police in scenario #1 and in scenario #2. You discharge your duty of cooperation in the prosecution with any alleged crime in both scenarios.

In scenario #1 the "should you initiate a gunfight and endanger innocents and the police officers making the arrest" thread you risk doing more harm than good in a variety of ways. In scenario #2 "you see a drug hit go down" thread if you pull a gun, pack your peanut butter because you're in D.C. and you're not a federal bodyguard, and you have all the problems of scenario #1.

This "moral imperative" stuff--do you not have a "moral imperative" to your family not to go to jail, to innocent bystanders who may be hit by misses or pass throughs, or to any undercover police officers. Carrying a pistol does not make you a super hero crime fighter. "You cannot save the world. If you are lucky, you can save yourself and your family."

gun-fucious
February 15, 2003, 09:52 PM
y'all can monday morning quarterback this as much as ya want,
but most of you have prolly never visited the 500 block of Florida avenue...

its not Mayberry
most of the locals repect street law as more "consistantly enforced"

Blackhawk
February 15, 2003, 10:43 PM
This sounds like it was a hit.

jimpeel
February 16, 2003, 04:54 PM
I was watching Rita Cosby on the "Big Story" on FOXNews last night and she had two of the most ill-informed guests. They were talking about this incident and had the video.

The guy was Geoffrey Fieger and he stated that "45,000 people are murdered by handguns in this nation every year".

The woman, whom I failed to identify, attempted to link this to the Kitty Genovese killing [link] (http://www.newsday.com/extras/lihistory/8/hs818a.htm) by stating that people watched as she was raped and stabbed to death.

I found the killer's statement interesting:Moseley said he had ``an uncontrollable urge to kill.'' He told detectives he prowled the streets at night while his wife, Elizabeth, was at work. ``I chose women to kill because they were easier and didn't fight back,'' Moseley said.



a. There are not 45,000 deaths "by handguns", or by people weilding them, in this nation. Of those which do exist, more than half are by the hand of the person killed.

b. Kitty Genovese was not raped.

This is the type of know-nothing "experts" we get on the tube these days; even when they are attempting to be "fair and balanced".

Zundfolge
February 16, 2003, 05:18 PM
This whole thing just proves 2 things for me.

1. Gun control only empowers the bad guys.
2. Citizens of Washington DC are not the kind of people I want in charge of the country.

King
February 16, 2003, 05:40 PM
A lot of people believe that heart disease is the number one killer in this country......me, I think maybe cold hearts kill more people in this great country than anything else.

Glad I don't live there. It's a real shame. To render aid to someone in this condition should not have been hard to do. Bad neighborhood? No excuse, if you can be there, you can act.



:(

Diesle
February 17, 2003, 12:16 AM
MN Law States....

Duty to Render Aid to Shooting Victim

A person who discharges a firearm and knows or should
know that the discharge has caused bodily harm to another
person must immediately investigate the extent of the
injuries and render immediate reasonable assistance to the
injured person. A person who violates this duty is subject to
criminal penalties that vary according to the extent of the
shooting victim’s injuries. A person who witnesses a
shooting incident is subject to the same duty to investigate
and render aid and is also subject to criminal penalties for
failing to do so.
Minn. Stat. § 609.662

chaim
February 17, 2003, 06:43 AM
I can certainly understand no one trying to stop the shooting, especially in DC where only the bad guy has a gun (no one else on the scene would have one) and only cops and bad guys generally have them. This isn't only because one can't get a CCW, even in your home in DC handguns are basically illegal and even if you have a shotgun it is illegal to load it up to use in self defense :barf:. I don't agree that it is right but I can understand people being so afraid as to "forget" what they saw or to have "seen nothing" after the cops arrive. However, no amount of fear would explain refusing to render first aid after the fact. There is absolutely no excuse for not at least calling 911 so the police and paramedics could be alerted and maybe try to save the guy's life.:fire: :banghead:

ZekeLuvs1911
February 17, 2003, 07:17 AM
This pretty much goes with what the Bible says that at the end times, the heart of men shall grow cold and love will depart from the world. Amazing how much truth the Bible has yet men continue to ignore it. God help us all.

mjustice
February 17, 2003, 12:34 PM
This is foul, but I guess I can understand the apathy of those in DC.

The gunman may still be in the area watching. Who's to say that he (or she, let's be fair) would not come back and finish the job if there was a chance that the person would live?

Anytime you can call 911 and receive a recording instead of an operator, the police are no longer in a position to protect you.

Indifference is alive and well in many major cities - not too unlike the Texas saying ("he needed killing"), many people look at crimes like this and think "he must have deserved it".

It's a sad look at what happens when we let the inmates run the asylum.

MJ

JohnBT
February 17, 2003, 03:27 PM
Just blocks from Gallaudet University eh?

Maybe a lot of the bystanders were Deaf university students from Gallaudet and didn't hear the shot.

Heck, anybody ever been in this neighborhood? It's noisy and one more loud backfire or another passed out crackhead or drunk would only be noticed in passing.

Still, it's sad either way.

John

SoDFW Jason
February 17, 2003, 05:27 PM
King: I totally agree with you. Do you see this shaking out any differently in a TX city? I know what you and I would do but do you think our citizens would do things differently?

Personally, I do. I still love my fellow humans(the ones that don't apply to the "some folks just need killin'' category) and I would like to believe there are others in proximity to me that do too. Gutless witnesses really make me :barf:

King
February 17, 2003, 08:41 PM
Hey Jason...thanks for your encouraging reply. Fact is, the average Texan (especially those who were born and bred here) would help this poor soul with no questions asked and with no reservations. I believe that's probably true of southern people in general.

I firmly believe that it would have been a different situation here regardless of the size of the city, urban or rural, sex or ethnicity. Yes, there will would always be some who won't get involved but I think most would render aid, call for medical help and give comfort. This should be a basic human quality.

twoblink
February 18, 2003, 12:52 AM
Errr..

DC.. There's NO CRIME IN DC... because no guns are allowed, see how great "sensible gun laws" are??

We have made sure the criminals are the only ones with guns..

It's called "group think" I learned it in my psych class... Nobody will do something..

With the liberal left as our friends, who needs enemies??

4v50 Gary
February 18, 2003, 05:12 PM
A disarmed public did what it was conditioned to do - nothing. Fear of being hurt, fear of liability, fear of being labelled a "racist" if the suspect is of a different ethnicity, all work towards the passivity of the public towards crime. We need tort reform, crime reform (kill more criminals) and ostracization (it worked for the Greeks).

Carlos Cabeza
February 18, 2003, 06:40 PM
I got lost in DC once and ended up in what I would call a bad neighborhood, I didn't know where I was at but I was totally terrified. It probably was an OK 'hood for DC, but I am from OKC.
Worlds apart...........

I did carry, only it was well secured where it would have been impossible to retrieve quickly.

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