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natedog
December 29, 2002, 01:16 AM
are there any semi auto .357magnum autoloaders (besides the desert eagle)

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Zundfolge
December 29, 2002, 01:24 AM
Coonan Arms makes (or at least used to make) a 1911 style gun in .357mag.

http://www.dancoonan.com/coonan_arms/coonan_arms_information_menu.html


I also believe that AMT made one, but I'm not sure about the quality.

Mike Irwin
December 29, 2002, 01:42 AM
LAR Grizzley, as well.

Peter M. Eick
December 29, 2002, 10:40 AM
If you want the 357 bullets, go for a 357 automag. Hard to find, but quite powerful. (Nice launching platform too!)

Poohgyrr
December 29, 2002, 05:07 PM
The Coonan is a terrific pistol. The 5" models are just a tad larger than a 5" 1911; and are the handiest .357 automatics I know of. Besides Dan Coonan's website (www.DanCoonan.com) there is also a discussion board (http://members.boardhost.com/dajowi/).
(Be advised Dan is a busy gunsmith and hasn't finished his website. But he is in business and available to work on his baby.)

My standard 5" model B is the pistol I am most often the most accurate with, no doubt about it. This pistol has much less recoil than any 4" .357 revolver I have ever shot.

They also made a 4" Cadet model, and I believe a 6" barrel too. A .41 Magnum was in the works, but I understand magazine problems kept it from being produced. Absolutely great pistol that shoots the entire range of .357 Magnum revolver ctgs. Did I mention this is one very accurate pistol....

quantico
December 29, 2002, 09:36 PM
I found that the 357 sig comes very close to most 357 magnum... loadings. I love the fact that in my glock 31 I can carry 15+ 1 rounds of 357 sig and have 30 more rounds in two mags on my hip ... If you want even more power the same arguement can be made with 10mm. The only great thing about the 357 magnum revolver cartridge is that it can carry a wide range of bullet weights... All in all the 357 sig wins in my book.

NEon
December 30, 2002, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Mike Irwin
LAR Grizzley, as well.

Owned the LAR in 357 and 45 Win Mag. Over sized 1911A1 style. Really like it. A guy I know liked it better!:D

Gewehr98
December 30, 2002, 06:09 PM
But this caught my eye:

I found that the 357 sig comes very close to most 357 magnum... loadings.

Huh? :confused:


I was under the impression after reading about this comparison over on TFL that the only .357 Sig round approaching the .357 Magnum was the lightweight bullet loads. Do they now offer .357 Sig loads in 148gr and 158gr bullet weights that are close to the .357 Magnum?

Standing Wolf
December 30, 2002, 11:14 PM
That's one of the slowest, ugliest web sites I've visited in a long time! I gave up trying to find any information after three or four minutes.

Erich
December 31, 2002, 11:01 AM
Those Coonans are nice - I hear that some were made in .41 mag as well . . . man! :)

seeker_two
December 31, 2002, 12:06 PM
If you want the 357 bullets, go for a 357 automag. Hard to find, but quite powerful. (Nice launching platform too!)

Only problem is that Automags only fire the .357Automag ctg. It's significantly different than a regular .357mag. Plus, no one makes factory ammo & brass is rarer than hen's teeth...

quantico
December 31, 2002, 12:18 PM
Gewehr, The 357 sig loads are still in the lighter range, but my experience has been that more agencys run the 125 grain 357 magnum loads and the 357 sig is very close to that loading.... I hope I did not overstate the case. The heavy 357 magnum loadings are beyond the 357 sig loading.... however the 10 mm starts running with those bullet weights and velocities and then again a glock 20 or 29 can carry more 10 mm full power loads in a smaller package with faster reloading... A glock 20 with 15 or 17 + 1 rounds of full bore 10 mm can shoot three cylinders worth of 357 magnum power ammo without a reload... and with less recoil. ( full cap = 15 rounds / plus two = 17 round magazine) + one in chamber.... with two spare mags =

17 + 17 +17 +1 = 52 rounds with two mag changes .... you still want to carry 8 speedloaders and do 8 revolver reloads compared to my two mag changes ???

Poohgyrr
January 1, 2003, 12:59 PM
Hey, the 357 Sig should be a good round, it just works best with lightweight bullets.

The main weakness for me is reloading the bottlenecked case; the price of factory ammo seems to be getting better as well.

The main advantage should be the similarity to the 125gr Maggie performance and the number of rounds available IF you have standard capacity mags. With ten round mags, the new 7 and 8 shot S&W revolvers look pretty good for those who appreciate them. Revolvers can reload as fast as the vast majority of autos, most folks just do not spend the short time it takes to develop this skill.

The Glock 10mm's, with the original standard capacity mags, are a very good idea. But then I think the same about all the Glocks.

The .357 Magnum round is still a very good ctg., that much hasn't changed and never will. Revolvers still do many things well. The bottom line is that I don't want to be looking at the business end of a .357 in the hands of a determined man or woman.

Another good auto round to look at is the 9X23. Check out Dane Burns' website on this.

Jspy
January 4, 2003, 04:13 AM
Ditto on the 9x23 Winchester. Plus you can have the 1911 format.:cool:

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