Saiga Iron Sights Question


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Master Blaster
July 15, 2004, 08:49 AM
I now have two Saiga rifles, .308 and .223 both in the synthetic version with the 16" barrels. I added $2 slings from CDNN and like these rifles very much.

One odd thing I have noticed concerns the iron sights and I am wondering if others who own them have had the same problem?

In order to get my rifles zeroed at 100 yards, I have had to move the front sight far to the right on both rifles, farther on the .223 than on the .308.

Both rifles shot about 18-20" to the right out of the box.

They do sight these in at the factory and they have a certificate that says they passed inspection, meaning they shoot to poa at some distance???

I have several other rifles with barrel mounted Iron sights and I have not had this windage problem with any other rifle. So is the problem typical for SAIGAS? or do I not understand a proper Commie block cheek weld,

or am I just unlucky?????

So saiga owners what is your experience???

Thanks

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TallPine
July 15, 2004, 09:24 AM
My 7.62*39 seemed to be right on right out of the box.

MrAcheson
July 15, 2004, 09:37 AM
Do you shoot using the sling? If so maybe your changing the point of impact with the sling tension. AKs have sloppy enough tolerances that parts can probably move around quite a bit.

Coronach
July 15, 2004, 11:01 AM
This is more of an issue with Century "Assembled by Monkeys with Wrenches" SARs than with Saigas, but you might want to check and make sure that your front sight assembly is straight.

SARs were somewhat famous for having the gas-block/front-sight assembly canted. I dunno if this is something that can or does happen to Saigas as well, but its worth inspecting.

Mike

LynnMassGuy
July 15, 2004, 11:06 AM
MIne was not even close out of the box. Had to move the front sight to the left. Right on now. I get 2-3 inch groups at 100yards with a scope ($30 POS scope) and 5-6 inch groups without a scope.

roscoe
July 15, 2004, 01:05 PM
mine (.223) shot ~5" off out of the box, now corrected and gives me ~2"-3" groups over open sights

Master Blaster
July 20, 2004, 09:04 AM
Well I fixed the problem by buying and mounting a russian 4x PSOP scope from CDNN. 4 Shots to hit the bullseye on zeroing it. The windage adjustment range on the scope is huge at 100 yards, only 2.5 clicks out of 15 clicks on the scale!!!!!


Windage must be a problem on Russian rifles:rolleyes:

Coronach
July 20, 2004, 11:25 AM
I still think that your front sight assembly is canted slightly. However, as you were able to get it zeroed (with both optics and irons), it really doesn't matter all that much- it obviously isn't canted too far. My SAR had to be adjusted (by the tender minstrations of Comrade Hammer and Comrade Screwdriver, gotta love Combloc weapons) a fair amount to one side (can't recall which), but it shoots to POA. Thats all that matters...its not like you're going to be making windage adjustements in the field and run out of movement.

Mike

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