Worst gun advice you ever received?


February 15, 2003, 05:29 PM
What was the worst gun advice you ever received from a well-meaning individual? It could be related to buying a gun, marksmanship, training, safety, cleaning, etc.

My worst advice came from my dad. Sure, he spent 22 years in the U.S. Army, did two tours of Vietnam in the infantry, and actually went in when the Army still wore brown boots, but he just ain't a gun guy. He told me to keep oil in the barrel of my rifle and not to worry about cleaning it out because the first round would do that. It wasn't until years later I found out that this could be a harmful practice.

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February 15, 2003, 05:41 PM
Don't worry if it says LE only on it. It's ok and legal cause thats how you bought it :cuss: :banghead:

February 15, 2003, 05:43 PM
you might as well get what you can for that Remington 660, since nobody's interested in them anyway.....

February 15, 2003, 05:47 PM
Worse advice:

You need to sell that old, blued (almost mint) Colt Diamondback and get one of these brand new, stainless steel model 67s.

Even worse, I did it. Still bugs me after 20 some years.

Flying V
February 15, 2003, 05:48 PM
I had an acquaintance who maintained that a .357 would not penetrate drywall.

Greg L
February 15, 2003, 05:52 PM
"Go ahead and get your C&R, you'll save money"


Well, perhaps on a per gun basis anyway. :D The problem is that the quantity of incoming weapons has increased quite a bit. :rolleyes:


February 15, 2003, 06:11 PM
When I was told that a trigger would smoothen & lighten out after I fired "a few rounds" through it. Almost 3000 rounds later (I was being overly optimistic that the trigger would improve!), it was still heavy & mushy...the grittiness was gone, but it was still crap! :what:

February 15, 2003, 06:13 PM
To summarize:

"Get a Glock 21. If it doesn't fit your hand you're not holding it right. It has the same grip diameter as a 1911. GET A GLOCK 21! Forget the revovlers, kid, and get yourself a GLOCK! Revolvers are for hunting and cowboy shooting, not defense."

I never bought a Glock 21, and doubt I ever will. If it doesn't fit it doesn't fit.

"Stick with a 5.56mm rifle, an AR-15. It's cheaper to shoot and ligther than anything in .308. M14s, FALs, and G3s are Yesterday. The AR-15 is Today."

I enjoy my FAL more than I ever did either of my previously owned ARs.

"Get a .22 for your first hangun. Even if it's your ONLY handgun for a while."

I didn't have any trouble diving right in to .45ACP. It's really not hard to shoot, if you take a little time to practice on occasion.

February 15, 2003, 06:19 PM
Nightcrawler--Starting with a .22 rimfire is common advice because it's the safest advice. You yourself may have been perfectly happy starting off with the .45 ACP. However, imagine what happens when a brand new shooter who may be more sensitive to recoil starts out with one. He/She may never pick up another gun again due to the recoil and the loud report (compared to a .22). The first shooting experience should be pure pleasure. Then it's just another addiction :D

February 15, 2003, 06:22 PM
don't buy the coonan... Its an old has been and will loose value , ahem I did buy it and had several offers to sell it at 4X the price ,and if you reload your own you'll blow up your gun .. ahem it been many moon and still have my fingers and house and firearms . :rolleyes:

February 15, 2003, 06:31 PM
I understand the bit about the .22. But this fellow wouldn't let UP. I said and said, I didn't want a .22, I'm not a recoil sensative person.

He kept pressing, though. Start with a .22. Work your way up.

Work my way up? Why do I buy after the .22, a .32? Then a 9mm? Then a .40? THEN a .45?

Don't have that kind of money.

February 15, 2003, 06:33 PM
" I know the stock has a crack...been that way for a while now...load her up and shoot..." So I loaded up the old '06...bang, bang --YEooowww!

'Huh...never figured that would happen...WHOA!...what a bruise!!..."

February 15, 2003, 07:02 PM
Had a guy tell me that DA meant the gun had an automatic double tap feature. You pull the trigger once and it fires twice. This guy is a self-proclaimed ex-Marine Recon and ex-Swat officer. :rolleyes:

February 15, 2003, 07:02 PM
Dont get one of those. Why do you need one?


February 15, 2003, 07:07 PM
"A guy your size? A Benelli would knock you over."

February 15, 2003, 07:09 PM
"I wouldn't worry about stocking up on hi-cap mags.. They already have increased by $5.00 or so. The ban will never pass."

4 eyed six shooter
February 15, 2003, 07:09 PM
I must not have put powder in that one, just fire another round, it will push the one that is stuck in the barrel out. Yea right. This from the guy who's .38 special reloads I was using. Nope, I wasn't that stupid and I don't shoot others reloads anymore.

Wayne D
February 15, 2003, 07:32 PM
Not really bad advice, just a stupid statement in general, "Buy a .243, mine will blow a groundhog in two at 500 yards!"

February 15, 2003, 07:38 PM
Buy a .243, mine will blow a groundhog in two at 500 yards!

It doesn't? What bullets are you using?

Actually, I've never shot a groundhog, but those 65 Gr VMax sure makes a mess out of a raccoon.

February 15, 2003, 07:39 PM
Worst advice... Hrmm... Guess I've been pretty lucky in general. I guess the whole 'ditch the steel 1911 because Glocks are the wave of the future.'

Can't say it's not true, but it's not true for me. ;)

February 15, 2003, 07:41 PM
"Don't waste your money on an Enfield" This was about 15 years ago when they were selling for $39.95.:rolleyes: Thanks dad.

"get a Glock, they are the coolest guns ever!" This from my best friend for years. He bought a Glock and suddenly became an expert on guns.:rolleyes:

February 15, 2003, 07:46 PM
"TFL" is too radical or is just for radicals. Dave(radical):)

February 15, 2003, 08:38 PM
was told to "wrap a towel around the grip"because it wouldnt hurt as much.then after i still refused..offered 50 bucks to just shoot it once.tried it but without the towel.the 50 bucks didnt even cover the xrays of the fractured wrist.

February 15, 2003, 08:56 PM
"You don't need any guns"

The most worthless advice, suggestion or statement any has given me regarding guns!

February 15, 2003, 09:02 PM
about that Navy Luger. You should return it......

from a guy who wanted to go get it himself.

As a newby, I returned it. It was gone before Mr. Advice could get there.

(I also neglected to TELL him I returned it)


Standing Wolf
February 15, 2003, 09:12 PM
"Buy a Ruger: they're really well engineered."

February 15, 2003, 09:27 PM
I get this every time I look at 1911's:

"No you don't want a Colt/Springfield/Whatever, you want a Kimber. The other ones can't feed hollowpoints (This is after the new rollmark Colts were introduced) and it would take more money to get it to Kimber specifications."

I held back, but I wanted to tell him it would take more money to get a Kimber to Colt specifications;) (I like the classic look of the spur hammer and vertical serrations, and the extended doodads are not a necessity for me.)

Another one:

".38 Special? Isn't that too much recoil for you?"

February 15, 2003, 09:40 PM
"Bend your elbow when you fire a .45 or you'll break your arm!"
Advice from a classmate in the third grade.
Went onto the range with a relative a few years later and although I stiffarmed it as my mentor advised, nothing broke. However, my stance was leaning backward and I learned a thing or two about stability and using a proper isoceles stance (which was then called a "turret stance".)

February 15, 2003, 10:54 PM
All from my father, who actually likes guns:

You don't need that SKS, its too powerful and can penetrate a cement wall after X amount of distance. All you need is a .22

You don't need a handgun, you have no reason for one, you need a .22 rifle.

The 9mm has never been a good round, the .40 Magnum is the best (Still trying to find that cartridge) and the .38 Special will out-perform the 9mm.

The problem with having an SKS is the ammo is hard to find because it is regulated

Don't have my DEADLY SKS anymore, don't have a decent .22, and have a horrible 9mm. :rolleyes:

February 15, 2003, 11:14 PM
Glocks are great! :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :banghead:

February 15, 2003, 11:28 PM
Buy A Glock 9MM


February 16, 2003, 12:23 AM
"Don't waste your money on all that overpriced cleaning stuff from gunstores...guns shoot better if you never clean them".

I swear!...and this is from a retired LEO!:D

February 16, 2003, 12:34 AM
"Buy a Colt."

"Nick Van Houte is an honest guy."

February 16, 2003, 01:11 AM
Go ahead and sell it (HK 91) you can always get another one later - this was less than 1 year before the bans.

Sure I can get another one, for about 3x what I paid for the first one.

February 16, 2003, 01:12 AM
1)A RG 14 is a great .22 !

2)you don't need to weigh the powder, Just eyeball the level in the case.:eek:

3)something about a .45 "tearing a man in half"

Kentucky Rifle
February 16, 2003, 10:51 AM
Listen..."Always use WD-40 to lube that new revolver".:banghead:

(And I LISTENED to the dumb###. Thus, joining the "Dumb### Club" myself.)


February 16, 2003, 11:57 AM
"No, man, don't get the HK. See this Glock 36? I carry it every day. It blows the HK out of the water."

Whatever dude. Personal preference. I like the Glocks, but I like the HKs better.

February 16, 2003, 02:31 PM
"Don't buy that HK SP-89, it's $1000 and it's too heavy for a pistol."

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

February 16, 2003, 02:33 PM
I've heard this piece of advice more times than I can count:

Newbie shooters looking for something for home defense should get a short-barreled double action revolver because it will go "bang" everytime you pull the trigger.

Never mind the fact that the short DA revolver is probably the most difficult firearm to master.

February 16, 2003, 02:47 PM
This one took me a while to think of, but it has to do with wildcat calibers:

"...The .30 Herrett was designed for break open single shot pistols. The .30-30 has too much case capacity and will never be accurate in a pistol" (paraphrasing)

After thinking it over I bought a .357 Herrett Contender Barrel for my Contender. It was a POS with a rough barrel, and it shot about six inch groups at 100 yards:rolleyes:

The same writer about ten years later praised the accuracy of regular .30-30 Contenders:fire:

February 16, 2003, 04:25 PM
The ONLY Item marked LEO Only that can gewt you into trouble with the law for possising or owning (unless you stole it from a cop that is) is recently produced hi cap magazines. Any other stuff such as mossberg shotguns, remington sniper rifles etc marked LEO ONLY are only marketing hype. They are perfectly legal to buy and own Even the NFA stuff with the proper paperwork of course (again excepting NEWLY manufactured full auto which cannot be sold legally to civilians EVEN with NFA paperwork) Just thought I would mention it.:D

February 16, 2003, 07:12 PM
"He doesn't have too many friends and is into blackpowderguns". "Sure":banghead: After, Mr. Moron, loaded a barrel, misfired, put in more powder, misfired. He said after removing the barrel from the rifle, "I'll hold it and you light a match to the firing end". "Sure":banghead: Next thing I knew I had 3 fingers a lovely yellow crusty color that didn't heal for months. I know why "Mr. Moron" has no friends and I'm a "mite particular" who I invite shooting! Live and learn, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. :scrutiny:

February 16, 2003, 08:03 PM
Sorrow , but I have to echo what has already been mentioned.

Back in the late 80's when the high capacity 9mm craze was going strong - I walk into a gun store and the guy says; "Hey , you know what you need - a Glock!" I tell him ,"I need a Glock like I need another hole in my head."

A few years back I tell the guy behind the counter at a local gun shop that I am shooting bullseye and will eventually need a good centerfire pistol - he proudly pulls out his Glock and says , "This might be what you need." I say, "I never heard of a Glock used in bullseye before" and then go on to expalin to him what bullseye involves and how the Glock does not posess a fraction of the accuracy required to be competitive.

Apparently there are those who sell guns who believe the Glock is capable doing anything.

February 17, 2003, 12:57 AM
"if your step-daughter can't shoot THIS gun she can't shoot anything!! and in fact has no business shooting!"
guy referring to a lightweight 20ga "youth" pump, for use by a 5'3", small framed, and currently recoil sensitive person. never mind that I (6' 260lb neandertal) can't stand to shoot a gun that light and that truly light loads for 20ga seem rare around here.

what i wound up getting in the end was an 870 express with same barrel length as the "youth model" trimed the stock installed decellorator and a "dead Mule" (mercury filled recoil reducer) in the stock. stoke it with winchester AA "low noise, Low recoil" aka "featherlights" and the thing kicks about on par with a .22. and of course bought it from a different store

i told the owner of the shop where this happened, WHAT had happened, and that his clerk's attitude had caused him to loose the sale (plus all the "supplies" for the gun). i never saw that clerk again.

Mark IV Series 80
February 17, 2003, 01:34 AM
"Get a .357 Magnum...... It's so powerful that it will shoot right through an engine block!"

February 17, 2003, 02:39 AM
The snubby .38 revolver for newbies (especially women) is probably the most common bad advice I hear.

Just about anything I hear from anyone in the Wal-Mart Sporting Goods Dept. about guns is bad advice or just plain foolishness. You'd think they'd get it right by accident once in awhile...

Kahr carrier
February 17, 2003, 02:43 AM
Dont hold a 12 Guage to tight to your shoulder or it will knock you down.:p

February 17, 2003, 09:44 AM
See this Glock 36? I carry it every day. It blows the HK out of the water

Why should you have your HK in the water?:D

February 17, 2003, 10:34 AM
"Anything under .40 caliber just ain't an effective stopper..."

While the .40+ calibers are great, the 9mm & .38/.357's don't take a back seat to anyone. Even smaller calibers like .380, .32, & .22 can take the fight out of someone when used properly (head & neck area). (Or, to quote my father, "If you think a .25 can't stop a man, let ME shoot you w/ one...:D ").

Shot placement is everything...:cool:

February 17, 2003, 03:51 PM
dad told me that those Springfield army rifles down at the surplus store, for 15.00 each, were junk.....chris3

February 17, 2003, 09:20 PM
I got a good one.

I went to a gun shop to return scope rings I had bought for my FAL, they weren't high enough and I wanted to have the store order higher ones.

The gun shop OWNER didn't believe me, claimed I had to be holding the rifle wrong.

So he picks up a bolt action rifle from behind the counter, and tells me to "point it at his nose" :eek:

I refused, several times before he stormed off in a huff - I had one of his assistants refund my money, and I've never been back there again.

February 17, 2003, 10:45 PM
It was not me, but i was in a gunshop in Pasadena and Customer #1 was telling Customer # 2 how much more powerful a .38 Special was than a 9MM because look how much bigger the case is and all. I guess the fact that a 9MM runs at more than twice
the pressure of a .38 special bears not in things.

February 18, 2003, 12:15 AM
"All of the gun magazines just raved about it!" Colt All-America 2000. Who knew the guy meant it would be a collector's item?

February 18, 2003, 09:43 AM
"You don't want to buy any of those Llamas, they are made in the Philippines, and who knows how high the quality really is"

So he leads me to buy a Charles Daly, made by Armscor, in the Philippines. Felt like a dummy believing every word he said... at least I like the gun.

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