Bush's NRA Endorsement


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atek3
July 17, 2004, 03:26 PM
so the NRA has pledged to withhold the endorsement until Sept 14th. If however, Bush signs a the AWB back into law, will the NRA still endorse Bush? If they do then they are totally hopeless.

atek3

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Reno
July 17, 2004, 03:33 PM
I doubt they will.

If Bush renews the AWB, he's chances of re-election are next to nil imo.

CZ 75 BD
July 17, 2004, 03:53 PM
Bush signs AWB, the NRA will endorse no one. The NRA only recently began endorsing presidential candidates.

Standing Wolf
July 17, 2004, 05:50 PM
If Bush renews the AWB, he's chances of re-election are next to nil imo.

He can't renew a law all by himself—or he probably would. He can only sign or veto acts of Congress, and Congress isn't dumb enough to renew the so-called "assault weapons" ban right before an election.

Immediately after the new Congress convenes in January, 2005... Well, that's another can of worms.

Reno
July 17, 2004, 06:15 PM
Standing Wolf, I don't need a lesson in the legislative process.

Given the context you should know that "Bush renewing the AWB" means it gets to his desk and he doesn't veto it.

Hkmp5sd
July 17, 2004, 07:03 PM
If however, Bush signs a the AWB back into law, will the NRA still endorse Bush? If they do then they are totally hopeless.
They did not endorse Bush (41) after his 1989 import ban. That is why he cancelled his NRA membership in the most visible way possible for the media, once he found a topic to make the NRA look bad.

Stebalo
July 17, 2004, 08:15 PM
If the bill goes through and Bush signs it, Bush is toast. But I hope the NRA declares open war an anyone in the congress who signed it like they did in '94. Even if they they were turn the house back to the DNC, those congressmen need to know that if they sign gun legislation, their career is kaput.

Waitone
July 17, 2004, 09:03 PM
To the best of my knowledge Bush 43rd has yet to veto legislation.

4v50 Gary
July 18, 2004, 01:13 AM
And repeat Daddy's mistake? I think he's hoping it doesn't come before his desk. If it does, NRA will not endorse anyone and it'll be a three way with Kerry coming out on top.

atek3
July 18, 2004, 02:53 AM
Assuming bush signs the new AWB, Kerry will certainly win. Why won't the NRA endorse Badnarik in that case? if they don't they really are the National Republican Association.

atek3

Bartholomew Roberts
July 18, 2004, 03:50 AM
Because the NRA doesn't endorse obvious losers no matter how strong their Second Amendment credentials are...

atek3
July 18, 2004, 03:53 AM
good one... no really.

Bartholomew Roberts
July 18, 2004, 03:59 AM
Sad but true, the NRA has left many a good Second Amendment politcian to wither on the vine because they didn't think he could win. If the NRA doesn't think you have some realistic chance of winning, you can dream about endorsements until judgement day; but they'll endorse a questionable candidate like Elizabeth Dole (foxhole conversion) before they will endorse a solid RKBA candidate with no chance of winning.

WilderBill
July 18, 2004, 08:11 AM
Hey, it's great to be able to say that 98% of the candidates backed by the NRB won.
It certainly makes them look like powerful king makers.
It might be even better if they could back everyone that stands on the right side of the RKBA issue.

Treylis
July 18, 2004, 09:56 PM
Assuming bush signs the new AWB, Kerry will certainly win. Why won't the NRA endorse Badnarik in that case? if they don't they really are the National Republican Association.

This is why some of us are GOA and not NRA members.

Skytrooper
July 19, 2004, 05:12 AM
This is why some of us are GOA and not NRA members.

It is also why some of us are ex-NRA Life Members.

On May 16, 1995, while speaking before the National Press Club, Tanya Metaksa (then head of NRA-ILA) said the NRA fully supported the Gun Control Act of 1968. This was televised on C-SPAN2 and I nearly passed out when I heard her words. I joined the NRA at age 14 to help fight what became GCA-68.

On May 18, 1995, on his CNN TV show, Larry King asked NRA Exec. Vice-President Wayne LaPierre if the NRA wanted to abolish the BATF. LaPierre replied that the NRA did not want to restrict the BATF in any way. My wife and I immediately resigned our NRA Life Memberships. For years, we had been disgusted at the craven, duplicitous behavior of NRA officials, but these acts of perfidy were more than we could endure.
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