Switch Blade Laws???


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Glocky
July 19, 2004, 12:36 PM
Anyone out there know where to find out about automatic knife laws, I'm in Ga. but I think its a Fed law. I'm wondering about carry, etc. any help is appreiciated.:D

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ScottsGT
July 19, 2004, 01:17 PM
In SC, you can own them as a collector, but you cannot carry them. Unless you are law enforcement or have a handicap such as a missing hand. BUT, nothing is said about the "Auto Openers" that are being marketed these days! I carry a spring assist Ken Onion Whirlwind by Kershaw. No mechanical button as it is written in the letter of the law of SC. Might have to do a google search under Georgia switchblade laws.

mrtgbnkr
July 19, 2004, 01:29 PM
I can and do carry an auto here in Ohio, but I checked it out before a business trip to Atlanta...Switchblades are expressly forbidden in GA.

fmjcafe
July 19, 2004, 01:51 PM
Laws against switch blades are stupid. Most modern one hand openers can be deployed as fast as or faster than an auto. Here in MO. with my CCW liscence I can carry a handgun or any size fixed blade I want but it`s still illegal to carry an auto or butterfly knife. Go figure.

Check this out Glocky:
http://www.thehighroad.org/library/blades/knifelaws.html

glock 21
July 19, 2004, 07:18 PM
:cuss: :banghead: O well, I guess the Glock'll just have to do, wouldn't be wise to take a knife to a gunfight anyway now would it. Thanks for the tips & links guys that sorted it out for me. Guess the anniversary present will kave to stay at home or maybe go in the woods occasionally.
:rolleyes:

joab
July 19, 2004, 07:50 PM
In Fla a switchblade is just another knife. Legal for anyone to own or carry

Jim March
July 19, 2004, 08:01 PM
Carry laws on these are STATE level.

The Federal rules say that you can't buy a switchblade mail-order unless you're police/mil, and you can't buy one direct if it was "involved in interstate commerce".

Hence Oregon residents can buy Oregon-made Benchmades with no problems. FL residents have a few manufacturers too.

joab
July 19, 2004, 08:07 PM
That's the part I don't understand both of mine are Cheap China and I have seen Boker and Benchmade as well as Italian models for sell

MAKOwner
July 19, 2004, 08:11 PM
If I understand it correctly since a switchblade is obviously listed as "offensive or defensive" knife it's illegal to carry it concealed, however I don't see anything that says you can't carry it on a belt clip or something in plain view, might want to check up some more...

Anyone know if State Universities are included in the School zone law forbidding knives on the premises?? What about guns in your car on University property in Georgia?

Hkmp5sd
July 19, 2004, 08:14 PM
They get around the federal rules by selling "kits". Unlike ATF's rules on guns, a disassembled knife is not a knife. The end user then assembles the knife.

Treylis
July 19, 2004, 10:51 PM
In SC, you can own them as a collector, but you cannot carry them. Unless you are law enforcement or have a handicap such as a missing hand.

Unless you have a missing hand?

*shakes head* The stupidity of laws will never cease to amaze me.

444
July 19, 2004, 10:52 PM
"The Federal rules say that you can't buy a switchblade mail-order unless you're police/mil, and you can't buy one direct if it was "involved in interstate commerce".


What exactly does a police officer DO with a switchblade ?
What use do they have for switchblades that make them exceptions to the law ?
Seriously, I would like a real answer and not the comments about them being super citizens and all that.

hso
July 19, 2004, 10:54 PM
No, they don't get around the federal rules by selling kits. They ignore the 18 USC restrictions and hope they don't get caught.

Switchblade knives made off-shore and sold anywhere in the US were smuggled in or were illegally converted once they got here.

Knives made in Oregon and sold in Florida, or in Florida and sold in Oregon, were sold to "bonafide dealers" who then sold them to someone other than the LEO/Mil/Gov authorized purchasing agent.

The laws on switchblades are ignored for the most part, but sometimes the cat catchs a mouse and some guy looses a few knives, or a few hundred, and everyone ducks and covers for a short while before selling in the open again. Every rare once in a while the cat actually eats the mouse and it can take lots of lawyer fees and heavy fines to get back out on the street again. When that happens it takes a few months before things get back to normal.

Nick1911
July 19, 2004, 11:41 PM
Anyone know if they are legal in Indiana?

I have always wanted to get one as a novelty, however thought that they are illegal in the US period.

If they are legal, does anyone know where I might get one? I don't recall seeing them for sale anywhere...?

Nick

CGofMP
July 20, 2004, 12:21 AM
According to the California AG site:

http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/dwcl/244.htm

Switchblade Knives


653k. Every person who possesses in the passenger's or driver's area of any motor vehicle in any public place or place open to the public, carries upon his or her person, and every person who sells, offers for sale, exposes for sale, loans, transfers, or gives to any other person a switchblade knife having a blade two or more inches in length is guilty of a misdemeanor.
For the purposes of this section, "switchblade knife" means a knife having the appearance of a pocketknife, and includes a spring-blade knife, snap-blade knife, gravity knife or any other similar type knife, the blade or blades of which are two or more inches in length and which can be released automatically by a flick of a button, pressure on the handle, flip of the wrist or other mechanical device, or is released by the weight of the blade or by any type of mechanism whatsoever. "Switchblade knife" does not include a knife that opens with one hand utilizing thumb pressure applied solely to the blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to the blade, provided that the knife has a detent or other mechanism that provides resistance that must be overcome in opening the blade, or that biases the blade back toward its closed position.
For purposes of this section, "passenger's or driver's area" means that part of a motor vehicle which is designed to carry the driver and passengers, including any interior compartment or space therein.


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No idea if the above is complete or comprehensive. Ask your lawyer.

Zundfolge
July 20, 2004, 12:34 AM
Laws against switch blades are stupid.
100% agree.

"Switchblades" are not significantly more useful as an offensive weapon then a regular old folding knife ... however they are significantly more useful as a defensive weapon because one will always react slower then one can act and when responding to a threat with a knife, that extra half a second it takes you to ready your self defense weapon could mean the difference between who goes home and who goes to the morgue.

srschick
July 20, 2004, 03:53 PM
I took the kids to the Gateway Arch in St.Louis, MO. a few weeks ago
This is a FEDERAL PARK.
They had a sign on the entrance about knives and part of it (specificaly) stated that the Onion/Kershaw assisted opening knive were illigal on Federal Land , that they were, in fact, switchblade knives.

Anyone heard of something like this?

Roadkill Coyote
July 20, 2004, 04:49 PM
srschick,

Both Mr. Onion and Kershaw have been actively defending the legality of their products whenever an issue comes up. They would probably be very interested in knowing about this situation. Might I recommend that you check in with the man himself at Ken Onion's knife forum. (http://www.kenonionknives.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi)

hso
July 20, 2004, 04:53 PM
Both bladeforums and knifeforums have active auto knife forums where you can get information on switchblades.

http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/fed-swb.txt is a site with the fed law on the question.

http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/sta-law.htm is bernard levine's site with switchblade info.

carpettbaggerr
July 21, 2004, 01:26 AM
Most modern one hand openers can be deployed as fast as or faster than an auto. And are considered switchblades under the law in many States.
What exactly does a police officer DO with a switchblade ? They tape them to their ankle. :D

Bainx
July 21, 2004, 08:14 AM
Chances are, they are illegal in your state. BUT, get your lawyer friend to find cases where they have prosecuted people for having them and, you will not find one case.
Spitting on the sidewalk is illegal here in Knoxville, TN but, nobody enforces it.
If you rob a bank and they find an automatic on you, it will only add to your problems.
If you get searched for some other reason, the LEO will take your blade to add to his collection but, I would bet the farm you won't go to jail over it.

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