Firearms transport & Greyhound


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captain obvious
July 19, 2004, 07:31 PM
I'm going to have to go back home via a greyhound bus - and I have an DCM M1 Garand with me. What are the rules regarding carrying a firearm as luggage on a bus? I have the rifle in a hard case with a trigger lock and 3 combination locks on the case.

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J Miller
July 19, 2004, 08:18 PM
captain obvious,

A couple years ago I called Greyhound and inquired about taking a trip across country. While on the phone I asked them the same thing. The answer I got was NO guns in the luggage, no way, no how, not possible.
According to the people I spoke with Greyhound does not allow transport of firearms at all.

I then called Amtrak and asked the same question. Got the same answer.

I drove.


Joe

armoredman
July 19, 2004, 08:19 PM
Drive yourself, or charter a light plane.

field70
July 19, 2004, 08:24 PM
From Greyhound website:

Are any items prohibited from checked baggage?
Yes. Prohibited items include acids, ammunition, animals, combustible liquids, compressed gases, corpses, cremated remains, explosives, firearms of all types, fireworks, flammable liquids, furniture, hazardous materials (poisons, radioactive materials, etc.), materials with a disagreeable odor, matches, merchandise for resale, protruding articles, or any unsecured articles including those in plastic or paper bags. Electronic equipment (television, stereos, etc.), film (flammable), and perishable items (food) may be sent using Greyhound PackageXpress with appropriate packing. Items such as money and prescription medication may not be checked as baggage and are to be carried in the customer's possession

deej
July 19, 2004, 08:49 PM
You can ship it to yourself via UPS/FedEx...

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm



B10) May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity? [Back]


Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the state where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.

larry_minn
July 20, 2004, 01:09 AM
I agree you should ship it to yourself. I got simiilar info when I checked on a IN state trip. I wound up with a new knife by end of 170 mile trip. BTW Luggage is stolen daily from buses. Would not car to have anything valuable (or looking valuable) under bus.

rayra
July 20, 2004, 02:38 AM
ship to yourself and find a way to have it held at the destination counter / center for pickup by you.
'Signature required' is NOT enough, drivers will often leave such items unsigned for, or have a neighbor sign for the package. Then you'll have a whole different problem to deal with.

veloce851
July 20, 2004, 10:08 AM
I just took a bus ride within state lines about 250miles...
I was concerned about bringing my CCW with me.
Then I chose not to because my schedule was tight and if I got hassled I didn't want to screw up the rest of my connections with friends.
Upon taking the trip I could have easily carried on my person as well as in my carry on bag or checked bag.
Heck I could have brought 20lbs of C4 with me.
There was no security check whatsoever.

A rifle on the otherhand may be hard to take.. unless you had it in a guitar case.

Based on the fact that all the patrons on this bus looked like the line at the unemployment office or a parole worker's waiting room.
I will carry in the future.
They obviously have not done anything about security. Big suprise

TarpleyG
July 20, 2004, 11:50 AM
Are any items prohibited from checked baggage?
Now, I haven't read all of the rules but this question specifically speaks to checked bags. What if you were to put it in a not-so-obvious carry on bag?

Greg

Ian
July 20, 2004, 02:00 PM
About two years ago I was also looking at a Greyhound trip with a rifle. When I asked, they said I couldn't put it in my luggage, and should ship it via Greyhound Package Express. Well, I looked into that and discovered that they would charge about $30 for it, and then put it in the same luggage compantment in the same bus as my baggage. So I said screw 'em, and just took the stock off and buried the rifle in the bottom of my suitcase. They used a metal detector on carry-ons, but didn't give my checked bags a second glance. I don't know if that's still the case, though.

Edit - Carrying a gun in a carry-on on Greyhound is not something they will let you do.

SMLE
July 20, 2004, 04:47 PM
If you come through Albuquerque on an East or West bound Greyhound bus your carry-on bag WILL be checked. Very likely by me, as I am the post supervisor for the private security company there. There are 31 stations doing boarding inspections. I had to confiscate a S&W 410S .40 cal pistol just last week because it was in a carry on bag. The guy was clean and the gun was not hot, so he didn't go to jail. But he was banned from the bus and finished his trip by train. He lost his pistol, two magazines and 14 rounds of ammo. And he DID have one in the chamber, so even if he hadn't been in the bus station he would have been illegalally carrying a loaded, concealed hand gun.
The no guns policy is widely published so there is no excuse for not knowing.

ALSO! Bus terminals are like airports, ALL passengers and bags are subject to search at the descretion of Greyhound. By entering their property you are implying consent to be searched.

Daps
July 21, 2004, 12:00 AM
how do you guys ride the dog?!? I mean I know some people who took one and to drive it would be 6hr,greyhound 18-20???? Plus Southwest goes places plenty cheap...

If you took one of those bus charter tours do any of you know if they would have the same rules?

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