Anybody use Fiocchi 60 gr. JHP in their P-32?
WonderNine
July 21, 2004, 06:24 PM
If so.... opinions? Problems?
It's some very hot stuff.
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9x19
July 21, 2004, 07:39 PM
Its my standard carry load, and has been for a couple of years.
Rim-lock is a possibility with this stubby round, so you may want to modify your carry mags to avoid the problem. Kel-Tec has kits available or you can make your own "Flyer-wires" (more convenient, IMO).
Texas Bob
July 21, 2004, 08:18 PM
When I carried this round I used the JHP in the pipe, and the mag loaded with the same companies FMJ. Look at www.goldenloki.com I had, in the past, left a mag with JHP riding in my thigh pocket of 511pants for about a month. When I took the mag out to shoot it, RIMLOCK BIGTIME. Had to pound the mag against cement floor before being able to get shells out. Now I just ccw 9mm as a BUG and don't worry about rimlock.
Bob79
July 22, 2004, 12:49 PM
I want to try some of that Fiocchi through my Seecamp. Have you or anyone else tried both? I also read at the Golden Loki that the fiocchi was a little slower than the Cor Bon, so I guess in theory the recoil should be less. The Fiocchi is still hot which I like, but the Fiocchi penetrated further, which is good for a .32 (especially since I have to use HP).
Also a question about that Fiocchi round, is there going to be a substantial increase in junk depostited after firing it because it doesn't look to be fully jacketed HP.
Thanks.
9x19
July 22, 2004, 01:35 PM
I've not had any excessive powder residue with the Fiocchi ammo, and the exposed lead at the tip is above the driving band, so it doesn't contact the rifling to cause leading.
WonderNine
July 22, 2004, 02:01 PM
I don't know where he got the Fiocchi he used on Golden Loki, but the Fiocchi I fired was a little more powerful than that. I chronographed 1,000 fps for 133 fpe out of my 2" barreled Autauga. There is quite a flameball at night. This is the ammo that caused the extractor to break. Also since it was so powerful, it did not function correctly, many times a round would not be up before the slide went back into battery causing a FTF with the round still on the top of the magazine.
I don't recommend running it through a Seecamp. The Autauga is based on the Seecamp. If you'll look at Fiocchi USA's site, you'll see that the .32ACP JHP 60gr. is now listed at 1200 fps w/ 205 fpe. I assume that's out of a 4" barrel. The things are heavy with powder and act like little magnums. Corbons are listed as 1050 fps / 150 fpe. I assume that's out of a 4" barrel. In the Golden Loki test out of the P-32 it appeared to do 1008 fps / 135 fpe.
Bob79
July 22, 2004, 02:06 PM
So you're saying the Fiocchi is hotter than the Cor Bon round?
I did check the Fiocchi site and they say 1200, and right on my Cor Bon box it says 1050.
But I have heard so many people say that the Golden Loki site is top notch, and he lists the Fiocchi as less powerful than the Cor Bon.
If the Fiocchi is hotter than the Cor Bon, than I don't think I'll buy any, and just stick with the Cor Bon.
WonderNine
July 22, 2004, 02:10 PM
I really don't know for sure. What I'm saying is that it might depend on the ammo lot.
Or the gun too. Some guns are just faster than others even if one has a slightly shorter barrel than the other. Could be the barrel, or the chamber or the fact that the Autauga is a blowback design rather than a locked breech like the P-32..
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