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Yohan
February 16, 2003, 02:37 PM
For those of you guys who are still in the whole dating scene, do you guys consider a chick's view on guns as a major factor? I really couldn't careless, but I wouldn't date a chick who would want me to stop going to gun ranges or hunting. At the same time, if you had a personal ad, would you put on there "I love going to gun ranges?" :D

*edit* Goodness, I'm still a high school Junior, I can say chick without sounding sexist :D

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Don Gwinn
February 16, 2003, 02:46 PM
I'm married, but in my state, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to date a chick, a duckling, or any other kind of animal, waterfowl or otherwise. Perhaps this is more than we needed to know. . . . .
;)

hansolo
February 16, 2003, 03:17 PM
And, whatever you do, don't refer to a rooster by it's other name...that has four letters...and starts with a 'C'........:rolleyes: --
Oleg would have a Cow!(Just jokin' around, Mr. Volk!)

GLOCKT
February 16, 2003, 03:20 PM
Well if my friends were trying to set me up with a blind date.All of them know me and my rifles and pistols.Hopefully this wouldn't be brought up in the orientation issue.
If I were to be single again the shooting issue wouldnt be an issue I bring up,or my obession to shoot.
It would be something she discovers about me.The don't tell,don't ask issue theory.Thus not really being an issue with me.
If you were to meet that special someone,and she were trying to set-up future dates,you should try to bring up the issue of not being able to do this certain date because it conflicts with range time on this date.If she reschedules she's a keeper, if she writes you off then good writtens.
Hopefully I meet the next Mrs Right at the range!

coonan357
February 16, 2003, 03:24 PM
Actually That what is what got me involved with the woman I almost married in oct . She wanted to learn to shoot and liked the fact that I could protect her , but due to other circumstances in her life , she broke off the engagement , and we have parted ways , but the last time we talked she wanted the gun I promised her If she married me . NO DICE.. put on my wedding ring you get gun .. ( would that be considered a handgun wedding ??) :D I know what you mean about mentioning guns in the ads I too like to be upfront in my hobbies , I have had several GF's that didn't mind my Hobby, but now I am looking again , I am running out of women !! so I would say yes I do consider it a prerequisite , as I would think of them wanting me to have a job .. and be cuddly :scrutiny:

forquidder
February 16, 2003, 03:28 PM
It seems that when people first start dating they are the most malleable to the ideas and values of the one they are dating. So early in the dating scenario I introduce dates to the idea of RKBA philosophy and take them shooting if they are non shooters (most women are). I even semi converted one adament anti gunner from a position of total gun bans to the idea that "I can see how guns would be useful in certain situations". I took her shooting with a 22 revolver and her response was "That wasn't as bad as I thought it would be". Keep in mind that this woman was a total elitist new ager type who had even spent some time working at the UN in New York. :barf: In the end she turned out to be too psychotic to be redeemed but it was an interesting ride while it lasted. That woman really helped me to firm up my own beliefs about the genius behind the founding of this country and dating another of her type has been purged from my list of possibilities.

10-Ring
February 16, 2003, 04:03 PM
Chicks, broads, etcetera, etcetera...all endearing terms I'm sure, but in my neck of the woods, terms like these quickly get you out of the dating world & quickly into the world of video games & internet porn ;)
As for women & guns...it's helpful if the women I'm dating are into firearms (even just a little bit), but really not a big deal if not.

Baba Louie
February 16, 2003, 04:31 PM
Guns and members of the female persuasion

Other than my Mom and my two sisters; every woman I ever associated with, either while dating in college, the one I married (and subsequently divorced) and the 4 I've dated since have all taken to guns like ducks to water.

We always discuss things we like and dislike right up front on the first lunch or coffee date. The second date, we'd go shooting.

Not very romantic, I know, but I always work on developing a "good friendship" first.

It still amazes me that there are so many guys who have problems getting their female units to go along when we go out shooting.

It's even more amazing to watch these guys when the girls start shooting. A couple of the guys tried to exhibit that old macho BS, "Here let me show you how to do it little lady" thing and promptly got put in their place.

The only negative, if there is one, is that I would NOT want to get one of these girls riled up (I try not to :D ) when they're anywhere near one of the guns.

We always start with the .22's, but for some reason they each have preferred to shoot either the Glocks (the 19 and the 21 seem to be the preferred Glock of choice... even the petite one liked the 21 best) or the .357/.38 revolvers. Only one liked the 1911. They all quickly handed back the 29, even tho' I load it with .44 specials for them.

As for rifles... the AR-15 is the one that ALWAYS gets a big smile on their faces. Its a great feeling.

My current GF always asks me where her "Baby Glock" (MY G-26!!!) is when we go out plinking.

The ex ended up with a MK II and the Taurus 82 and we still go out shooting a couple of times a year.

Three of the girls I've dated have asked me to help them pick out their own handguns...2 G-19's and a G-21. My current GF has stated more than once that my G-26 is hers if we ever break up (HA! AS IF!). She can buy her own (or I might break down and get her one for her B-Day...how romantic).

Even my daughter likes to go shooting. The 586 w/ .38's is her favorite.

None of them ever had any interest in the shotguns or old milsurps tho'.

Life is good.

Adios

Hot brass
February 16, 2003, 04:54 PM
I am married, if I were not,I would not date a female that is anti-gun. Period.

Psssniper
February 16, 2003, 05:01 PM
Heres a little story, My grandfather was a gun collecting nut.
He had a room that looked like a gun store, A frames with rifles lined up on both sides, stuff all over the walls literally hundreds of firearms spanning the history of guns. As a kid I was always in awe when I visited. He would tell stories about each gun and keep us kids extremely entertained. 'Ol gramps remarried later in life to a women from Holland "no gunz in zis house!" was her motto.
He sold them all....
He had only two daughters and since I was the oldest grandson, guess who probably woulda ended up with that collection?
I am still pissed.........
So whats the point?
For your heirs sake marry a woman who likes guns

Kobun
February 16, 2003, 05:07 PM
If girls can't handle the fact that I'm into guns big time, then it's their loss. They may go elsewhere.
My last (current?) gf never saw me without a gun the first week I met her.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=43854

NotQuiteSane
February 16, 2003, 05:27 PM
I've got a real good freind who's anti. thats the only thing that kept us from going further than "freinds"

There are some things I won't compermise on, Firearms being one.

tommytrauma
February 16, 2003, 05:57 PM
I'm married, but in my state, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to date a chick, a duckling, or any other kind of animal, waterfowl or otherwise. Perhaps this is more than we needed to know. . . . .
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole bird.

priv8ter
February 16, 2003, 06:01 PM
Well, the woman who went on to become my wife was fairly neutral, leaning towards anti when I met her. After discussing some things, she started to turn. She even let me keep my pistol locked up under her bed when I went to Virginia for a school for the Navy.

When we got to Washington, and she went shooting for the first time, she loved it. Bought her a Ruger Mk II, and never looked back.

But, as a horror story, I got my first pistol from a guy who was getting married. His future wife had a 4-year old son, and she would not marry him with guns in the house. Luckily, I saw that before I got married, and learned from his mistake.

triggertime
February 16, 2003, 06:02 PM
Yes, its a major factor. I've learned my lesson. Not too long ago, I had a girlfriend who refused to go to gunshows with me, refused to go shooting with me, abhorred the thought carrying a gun, etc.

I did my best to attempt to convert her, but that was impossible. The last straw was when she made the comment, "You know, instead of spending all that money on ammo, you should be spending it on me. *hairflip*"

I countered that with "I guess I like shooting more than you. *smirk*" and ended the relationship right then an there. Couldn't pass up that opportunity. ;)

Needless to say, I'm happily single.

MountainPeak
February 16, 2003, 06:14 PM
A womans political beliefs are a factor in my spending time with her. Since I spend a lot of my free time in gun related activities(shooting, working on guns, gun shows, hunting, etc.) if they aren't into guns the relationship won't go far. She will get bored with me quickly or I with her. I have met quite a few women that say they don't like guns, even though they have no experience with them. Over the years I have found many that enjoy shooting once they get over the fear of the unknown. I have had several that told me they were intrigued by firearms, but were afraid they would be laughed at or made fun of since they didn't know much about them. I still go to a gun show once in a while with my ex..

4v50 Gary
February 16, 2003, 09:20 PM
From page 38 of Caldwell & Cooper's Rifle Green in the Crimea which tells the story of two battalions of the Rifle Brigade (old 95th) during the (you guessed) Crimean War. This one particular incident relates to the 2nd battalion while it was marching to its point of embarcation:

"When the rifles entered Devna Lady Erroll was at their head. She made quite a dashing figure, dressed in a well-cut, swallow-tailed coatee with rows of shining buttons, her trailing skirts bunched about her knees as she rode side-saddle, wearing a plumed hat and a brace of pistols in her belt."

Standing Wolf
February 16, 2003, 09:24 PM
I married a woman—not a chick, but a grown Homo sapiens woman—who thought all guns should be banned. When we went our separate ways five years later, she was packing her own .357 magnum with a concealed firearms license.

Some while later, I dated a woman—Homo sapiens again—who felt approximately the same way, only to discover she was a pretty good .22 caliber rifle shot.

I wouldn't go out twice with an anti-Second Amendment bigot.

Mr Jody Hudson
February 16, 2003, 09:36 PM
I have started many dozens of women shooting and that has included all of the women I've dated. All of them have ended up liking guns and doing quite well with them. All of them have started with .22s and decided, according to their own feelings and determinations, to use larger calibers.

My current partner likes her Makarov 9x18 and chose that from all other pistols available at the gun store. She also likes the SAR 2 very well as a rifle. She is an excellent shot.
:D

BerettaNut92
February 16, 2003, 09:46 PM
Not on the dating scene, but of course it's important.

I wouldn't date anyone who was afraid of a seat belt, fire extinguisher or first aid kit, either. No, I've never been involved in a major accident, fire or injury, but I inspect them all at least every quarter.

And yes, this kinda nutty lady friend that me and my friends know semi-flipped over my fire extinguisher in my car. She asked if I was a reckless driver, and if I was expecting a fire. I think she (30) was interested in me but thought I was 5 years older than I am (23).

Only girl I ever had a chance with isn't big into guns. So that was a no go.:banghead:

556A2
February 16, 2003, 11:34 PM
I can deal with girls that don't have any interest in RKBA since you can always plant a seed in their heads (Thats why I am still talking to a certain girl) but as far as the full-fleded antis, no way.

bad_dad_brad
February 16, 2003, 11:43 PM
I have no opinion on the matter.

After losing my wife of 29 years to a long lingering illness, I am totally petrefied to initiate a relationship.

So, the subject never comes up.

Yohan
February 16, 2003, 11:46 PM
Mr.Skunk sir,
Do fireextinguishers cause deaths? Do seat belts spit out lead at faster than the speed of sound? Do first aid kits cause accidental deaths every year? I find it ridiculous that you would compare these items used for safety to a gun. A gun causes more accidents in a year than any of these items do combined. Another reason guns should be banned totally.

-Dumbface

BobP
February 17, 2003, 12:00 AM
Don't give up. When my wife learned last year that I inherited my Dad's .38 S&W, she was less than pleased. She was even less pleased when I brought home the Glock .22. Then I took her to the range. While she liked both the S&W and the Glock, she decided that she wanted the 9mm G19. And that's what she's getting for her birthday next month (along with the usual ladies stuff).

I know. I'm lucky.

rick458
February 17, 2003, 12:20 AM
What ever happened to that Female Korean Sniper you were looking for?

Nightcrawler
February 17, 2003, 12:45 AM
Someday I'll find my dream woman. A reasonably attractive nymphomaniac co-ed with low standards. She's got to be out there somewhere. :)



In all seriousness, no, I would not get into a serious relationship with someone that greatly disliked guns. Why date someone that hates your hobbies? It's all part of the Nightcrawler package, ladies. I am who I am. Take it or leave it.

Ladies?

Hello?


















come back...

*sigh*


Ah, heck. Being single ain't so bad. On valentine's day, for instance, I got to limp all the way to the library to print something out (tendonitis and all). I didn't have to spend any money on dinner or anything!

Um, yay.

LOL

BerettaNut92
February 17, 2003, 01:02 AM
Rick don't push me buddy!!! :banghead: :fire:

:D

twoblink
February 17, 2003, 01:20 AM
(To the Married with Family theme music)Guns and chicks, guns and chicks .. they go together like a HK and Snipers, this I tell you brother, you can't have one without the, other..

:D

Kahr carrier
February 17, 2003, 02:30 AM
For women Im just dating guns really dont enter the picture -What they dont know wont hurt them. But if there is someone you are thinking about being serious with disclosure is a good policy . It will save you some heartache later down the road.:)

Marshall
February 17, 2003, 02:58 AM
"GUNS & CHICKS" I clicked here looking for Pics? :neener:

mrt
February 17, 2003, 06:55 AM
she would know as soon as she got close and put her arms around me...if she didn't like em that's too bad...see ya.

But I disdain liberals and they don't get close to me or better put I don't get near them.

spacemanspiff
February 17, 2003, 02:53 PM
come on guys, lets be realistic for a minute. if all us single guys found the right female that wasnt scared off by our lifes pursuits and hobbies, wouldnt we wind up doing something to mess up the whole thing?
i know i probably would. but thats because i'm an idiot. and since i have realized this important factoid, i have essentially retired myself from the dating pool. my pocketbook is already tapped just keeping myself ankle deep in live ammo and empty brass. i dont dare think what would happen if i had to wine and dine a lady and shower her with gifts that show my love and adoration.

my only hope is to find a sugar momma (hey if women can have sugar daddys we gotta have an equivalent, right?). but i'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

BerettaNut92
February 17, 2003, 03:01 PM
A girl with a carbon fiber armory is out there some where...I know it....:D

Kobun
February 17, 2003, 03:43 PM
Just remembered:
While walking home from a night on town I stopped:

Me: Eeh. Just so you know, there is quite a mess in my flat.
Her: Thats OK.

Walking a few more meters and stoppin again:

Me: And there is a bunch of guns laying around...
Her: Eeh... Well, thats OK too...


It was even stranger the time I had the cops come over to pick up a girl that had went for a "swim" in the river. (It was 4F / -15C degrees at that time). You should have seen their eyes! :uhoh:
:D
But thats for a later story...

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=43854

incursion
February 17, 2003, 03:45 PM
I won't date a hard core anti. I will try to convince fencesitters.

bogie
February 17, 2003, 04:06 PM
Skunksta - Try to imagine this: Carbon fiber undies...

I've about halfway decided to just grill the next one in the first 15 minutes after I meet her...

1) Do you have a problem with guns? I'm VERY into target shooting. I may give up Kentucky Whiskey. I may give up smelly cigars. I may even give up Texas beer. I'm a man. I can change. If I have to. Maybe. But I'm not gonna quit shooting.

2) Do you have a criminal record?

3) Have you ever had a restraining order taken against you? (Yup - ran into one of those)

JeepDriver
February 17, 2003, 07:20 PM
I never let it bother me. I have only dated 3 woman since High School. All long term relationships. My wife was the first to say anything about my guns. But she is also British, so the first time she had ever been that close to a firearm was the first time she came over to my apartment. That was 5 years ago. A little over 2 of those years we have been married. I doubt it would have affected my decision though. As long as they respect the fact that people have different opinions, and this isone of those times. Then I wouldn't worry about it.

She never has been an anti type of person but she doesn't see why I always seem to want another gun. I get a large amount of grief when I come home with a new gun, but in all fairness she want a new living room set, an I never seem to be able to afford that. But I just bought a BHP in January and a Sig in December. And a Glock in October (which I traded off). So I guess I should spend some money on her soon, but there is a 22/45 I really want, and that 229 in the case at the range is calling my name.

Yohan
February 17, 2003, 07:22 PM
Jeepdriver, props to you for trading out the hideous Glock :cool: :cool: :cool:

twoblink
February 18, 2003, 01:08 AM
I'm at dinner last night with a friend and my gf..

I told him that we should go paintballing sometime. I told him I setup little targets around the house, and I let my gf practice picking them off with the airsoft..

"Yeah, it's actually pretty fun! I'm a little addicted to guns!" Words out of my gf's mouth!! :what: :neener: (No guys, she's MINE!!)

Also, last night, she tells me, if we live next to skunk and have kids, then the first words she'll teach the kid to say will be... TACTICAL!!

Now, that is a WOMAN!!

Wrangler
February 18, 2003, 01:29 AM
Yohan,
So you don't agree that fire extinguishers, seat belts, and first aid kits have anything in common with guns?

whoami
February 18, 2003, 08:42 AM
For those of you guys who are still in the whole dating scene, do you guys consider a chick's view on guns as a major factor? I really couldn't careless, but I wouldn't date a chick who would want me to stop going to gun ranges or hunting. At the same time, if you had a personal ad, would you put on there "I love going to gun ranges?"

Absolutely. I'm different from most people, in that I don't feel a need to be 'dating someone' just for the sake of dating them. If I'm going to spend any amount of 'more than friends' time with a woman, it's with the intention of seeing if we're compatible for a long term committment. Firearms ownership, especially given today's social and legal climate, is in the top three of most important things....so if she cannot respect that I'm not going to waste either her time or my time when we are NOT compatible.

It gets brought up before consideration of the first date...casually. I don't hide who I am or what I do, so it's not like a huge revelation. If she's cool with it, or doesn't have an opinion, then it goes from there. If she is ambivalent or anti, there will NEVER be a first date. One experience of dating someone and not bringing it up was enough to teach me.

I guess it all comes down to a trust issue. Frankly, considering just how dangerous women can be to my rights in this area, I find it impossible to trust a woman who does not at the very least respect these rights. I'm all for converting fence-sitters and anti's. I just don't feel the need to potentially put my rights on the line in order to do it. So yes...a womans views on guns are a MAJOR matter to me. Of course...just look at where I live, and you can figure just how many dates I've had. :banghead:

Kharn
February 18, 2003, 12:06 PM
My recipe (I've only used it once, so I dont know if it will work for you):
1. Find girl.
2. Get to know her.
3. Involve her in paintball. (its helpful if she is sort-of a tom-boy)
4. Find out her dad owns a shotgun but has kept it under the bed for years. (With the shells in the kitchen with the plates :rolleyes: )
5. Get her involved in trap shooting.
6. Take her down to the rifle range to see whats going on, see that she gets a chance to fire an AR15.
7. Buy AR15.
8. Buy more guns that she likes.
9. Enjoy life.

Kharn

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