Long-term use: Kel-Tec SU-16. Any user feedback?


July 24, 2004, 05:32 AM
I've owned a Kel-Tec SU-16 for over a year now, and although my shooting has been severely restricted by a back injury since February this year, I must admit that this rifle has really grown on me - to the extent that I just swapped for another one!

I've found it stone cold reliable in terms of feeding and function, even with the original sights and firing-pin (the latter was replaced soon after production started, and better sights are now available from Kel-Tec). I didn't run huge quantities of rounds through it, but found that I could happily plink away for 50-100 rounds without the barrel overheating and "stringing" shots downrange.

What has been the experience of other SU-16 owners? What do you have to report, both positive and negative?

Also, what suggestions can we make to Kel-Tec for new versions? Personally, I'd love to see one in 7.62x39mm.!

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Sgt Stevo
July 24, 2004, 12:21 PM
I just bought one and have not picked it up. it is very popular here in the prk. because it takes ar type mags. it is as close to the fire power of an m-4 as I can get. Good to here it works.

July 24, 2004, 01:22 PM
Really enjoy mine and it too is one of the early ones with the poor firing pin design, since replaced by KT. Brick-like reliability and superb accuracy (http://www.dimark.com/shooting/su-16_target.jpg). Mine also loves the new 62gr Wolf ammo, at $100/case, delivered...I can't reload plinking ammo for that.

Throw a cheepie Tasco 40MM reddot on top and tin cans at 100 paces are lookin' to dance. :D

July 25, 2004, 05:20 AM
Sort of reminds me of the BAR. I like the fact that it folds.


July 25, 2004, 11:42 AM
Anyone know a dealer for this rifle in SoCal?

Number 6
July 25, 2004, 12:21 PM
Longeyes, if you are near Orange County you might want to try Ade's Gun Shop. Ade is an extremely nice person and will go out of his way to get the firearm you desire. I do not know anyone that carries the SU-16 in stock around here. I think your best bet is to have Ade or another dealer order one, or buy one off www.sportingarms.com or www.impactguns.com and have someone do the transfer.

July 25, 2004, 02:19 PM
Also in Orange County, try Fowler's Gun Room off the 22 East at Tustin Ave., or up the 57 North about 20 miles, then several miles west on the 60, off Colima at Nogales, Tuan's gunshop (big seller to the cops, keeps prices low and stocked well) assuming he's still in business (haven't been to that part of Kalifornistan since 2001, but considering how well biz was going then, he should still be open).

Number 6
July 25, 2004, 03:52 PM
Fowler's is just up the street from Ade's. I have only been to Fowler's once and they seemed to have a nice selection but I felt that their prices were a bit high. That was a while back though so they might be worth checking out. If you are in that area you can try going to Turner's first then Fowlers then Ade's, since they are all off Tustin and are within a few miles of one another. Try asking around this site.


July 25, 2004, 07:51 PM
Thanks. I'm near Glendale but can deal with the drive. I'd like some variety from Turner's.:)

Dave Markowitz
July 26, 2004, 09:14 PM
I recently saw that the SU-16B is now in production and will be offered alongside the original SU-16 starting in mid-August. It has a shorter barrel and better sights.


July 27, 2004, 12:25 AM
Colors! Thay have different colors! Cool! :cool:

Longeyes, Bain & Davis in Alhambra had one in stock last week. Not too far from Glendale. Give 'em a call. I bought mine from them. Talk to Pete.

Wilson 17&26
July 27, 2004, 03:08 PM
Kel-Tec should have the “C” model out before the end of the year. This one folds in a different location and can be fired with the stock folded. This stock will also be offered as an accessory for existing SU-16s Very interesting!


July 27, 2004, 08:33 PM
How much are Su-16's right now? (Bay Area).

lee n. field
July 27, 2004, 09:23 PM
Hmmm. What're they going for?

July 28, 2004, 09:26 AM
400 OTD here

lee n. field
July 28, 2004, 02:57 PM
hmmm. Right at what I paid for my Mini-14. Hmmmmm.

July 28, 2004, 04:37 PM
Traders in San Leandro has them for $499

About as low as it goes for Nor. Cal.

July 31, 2004, 01:25 PM
How difficult is the SU-16 to disassemble and clean?

July 31, 2004, 03:47 PM
Super easy to take apart, well illustrated in manual (no tools required). Clean bore from muzzle and use an AR-15 chamber brush screwed to a pistol cleaning rod bent @90* to clean the chamber/lugs.

Sgt Stevo
July 31, 2004, 04:30 PM
Any idea if it will come out in od green? That would be most cool.

July 31, 2004, 04:53 PM
Here's pics/details/colors of the new B version of the SU-16:

July 31, 2004, 06:54 PM
Had an early serial number (81) with feeding problems when using hollow-points and ball, all sorts of mags. Kel-Tec cheerfully gave me free upgrades and now function is at 100%. About 3 MOA for me, but I haven't tested with Federal Gold Match or anything.

A great survivalist rifle, and the best bet short of an AR here in California. Definitely better than the Mini-14 and M1 Carbine. After a couple thousand rounds, I'll report back.

July 31, 2004, 11:29 PM
Speaking of survivalist, Sven's back among the living I assume? :)

August 1, 2004, 05:12 AM
does it irk anyone else that you can purchase a folding keltec 223 or pistol caliber carbine, but i cant have a damn folding or collapsible stock on your other rifles?

August 1, 2004, 12:54 PM
Larry: it took about a week, but the food poisoning has finally gone away. Enough that I am thinking about going shooting again (its been a few weeks - how pathetic is that?).

Time to pick up some of the new Wolf .223 and see if I can melt the plastic on the SU-16.

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