[Mark IV Series 80]

It has only happened to me once...... A non-gun-owning friend came by my place unexpectedly while I was cleaning my guns.

I settled things down fairly quickly.

[sm]

Former busybody ResidentManager...thought I was away, since my truck wasn't in parking lot...walked in while I was taking a shower...she was introduced to my bathroom gun...:D

This situation confirmed two things: have a bathroom gun, and this lady was snooping and stealing...cahoots with pest control person on contract with complex...

[Pistolsmith]

Unfortunately, when seated at a center table in a restaurant my jacket hiked up, giving a glimpse of my stainless autoloader. The person in a booth behind me complained to a waitress, who demanded that I remove it. I removed it and placed it in a position that did not show. I never looked at the person who complained, but I had to listen to his loud denounciations until I got up and left the premesis. On the way out, I showed my badge to the cashier and nothing came of the incident.
Unfortunately, in this state, this kind of inappropriate display is considered "intimidation" and can result in a criminal charge. The law says "concealed" and it means out of sight at all times.

[JeepDriver]

Only my wife.

She is from England, It never occured to me to tell her I have guns, the first time she came over and saw a shot gun she was scared to be around a firearm.

That was 5 years ago. She has since clamed down about firearms and is starting to join me at the range once every 1 or 2 months.

She has a Sig 2009 that she bought after 9-11-01, she wanted something that she felt comfortable with and after trying out several different type of handguns that was her choice. I had her buy it and fill out all the paper work. She very rarely shoots it, but I have her shoot it when ever she joins me at the range. Just to make sure she is use to the gun and how it functions.

[Soap]

Open carry...God knows I love it! One time a pair of guys were staring at El Tejon and I while we filled up my auto on the way to the range. They just keep staring and I knew they wanted to say something to each other but felt uncomfortable about it. Another time, on the way to the range at the same gas station a guy drove up onto the curb as he was turning because he was staring at my 1911 on my hip. I believe that its quite obvious that many people who see me open carry either:

A- Have an unnatural fear of firearms. Which is strange because while pulling into the gas station I could run people over with my car...but people don't seem to be concerned about that for some reason.

or

B- Wished they could do it! :) The remedy for these people is easy, take them to the range and explain to them the IN Handgun Permit process.

[Topgun]

the guy who came into my coin shop in August wearing an overcoat.

He was toooooo nervous and JABBED his hand into his coat.

I had mine out first. He started jabbering, "Hey, man, what's with the gun....etc etc etc...until his BUDDY (hiding just behind the doorjamb) ALSO got a good look at a .45 Commander at 45 degrees angle to the floor while I told em to move REEEEAL slow and remove the hand from the coat.

[El Tejon]

Dan, I think those guys were looking for badges. Next time we put on hats from a bail bondsman and they would leave without gassing up!

They looked like people who would be worried about warrants.:D I should have put cards on the windshield when we went in to pay for the gas.:p

I've gotten funny looks here and in God's Waiting Room. No real freaking out. Old girlfriend discovered I carried. Made me put it in the closet, but wanted to go shooting later.

[10-Ring]

Once. A friend had come over to watch videos and cme by a little earlier than I had anticipated. She caught me cleaning my P7M8. We hand a small discussion & went shooting that night instead.

[Gerald McDonald]

I was on a day trip motorcycle ride and stopped by a great little Mexican restaruant in Corsicana Tx, after getting in line with 8-10 people in front of me and 2 couples behind I removed my scooter jacket and the waistband of the jacket caught the butt of the little Rossi 38 I was wearing IWB underneath a T-shirt. Lifted the revolver right out of the holster and deposited it on the floor with a clatter. There was dead silence for about 5 seconds and then everyone went back to talking just as before, no big deal. I was somewhat red faced as I picked it up and the guy about 60 years old behind me with his wife said something to the effect of "dont ya hate it when that happens" and laughed. We shot the breeze while waiting and he told me probably half the people in here are carrying, so dont worry. I ended up just zipping it up in the pistol pocket on the jacket (which is how I carry now when riding in cool weather) as I would have had to undo my belt and pants with the Galco I was wearin. went by a gun store on the way home and bought a Galco with thumb snap.
Gerald

[Ed]

Yeah, last business meeting I took my 1911 to show some people and one friend of mine freaked, he's the oly one theere with no guns. Just not used to them. Guess I'll have to train him.

[Soap]

El Tejon, I'm telling you man, solicit bidness whereever and whenever you can! :D

[Skunkabilly]

Once. A friend had come over to watch videos and cme by a little earlier than I had anticipated. She caught me cleaning my P7M8. We hand a small discussion & went shooting that night instead.

And? And? And?????

I've had lots of people get scared. Either my friends or my roommate's friends. Half the time I just say 'whatever' and keep cleaning. Others know I have them and flip out at first but want to see them out of curiosity.

Most I end up taking shootin.

[10-Ring]

Skunk, you have to confront the fear & stop the insanity! Start w/ "what's wrong, did I miss something?" and get them talking about their insecurities. Give 'em some learnin' so you can win over another convert :cool:

[coonan357]

Ex fiance was cool with the thought That I owned a gun , but when she came over one night she asked to see it ( the gun you dirty minded ...especially El tej..) she got concerned when I opened the closet and opened the safe .I think it was the safe that caught her attention , then I asked her which one you want to see? she then said you have more than one?? :what: doesn't every one?? :rolleyes:

[Monkeyleg]

Oh, yeah. Until a few years ago, I carried open when taking my motorcycle trips out in the western states. Europeans aren't used to the sight, and reactions ranged from leaving the area to breaking out the video cameras.

After I'd been carrying for a couple of years (but never told my wife), she came home early one night from work. I was doing dishes without my usual jacket. "What's that?" she asked with no small amount of alarm. I turned the tables on her by saying, "I've been carrying for over two years, and this is the first time you noticed? Don't you think you should hug me more often?"

Also, a bit more than a year ago, my older brother from PA came to town to visit. He'd just bought one of those tiny S&W featherweight revolvers for pocket carry, and he just had to show it to me. We went into my folks bedroom, and closed the door (shades of teenage years long past!).

Using two fingers and a thumb, I held it, aimed at the wall, and said "nice." Then I opened my coat to show him my 1911 and a couple of spare mags. Suffice it to say that Oleg's language rules won't allow me to repeat what my brother had to say.

[nvrquit]

My only time of accidental exposure(of my CCW, nothing else) was at the yearly cardiologist check-up. Nurse came in to take BP and run the EKG before the doc sees me and she got there before my usual stash of my pistol in my laptop bag. Nurse says to take off the shirt for the ususal readings and before I think twice about it... uh-oh!

She(the nurse) said "nice gun" and not to worry. She then puts me at ease by explaining she has her own CCW(but can't carry OTJ, hospital and workplace regs/rules). Turns out she is a past rape victim and indicated that it will never happen to her again.

Wife regularly checks me for printing and plays "spot the new CCW owner" when we are out and about.

[bpisler]

I've gotten a few strange looks
mostly from people with out of state plates on their cars.I did have a few words with a french tourist while in northern arizona,i was told we should not be allowed to own firearms,i simply told him it's lucky for the french that americans know how to use them,afterall it was US troops that ran the germans out of his country during WW II.I was left alone after that.

[TIMC]

Two years ago after eating breakfast at a little Restaurant a few miles from our deer lease in south Texas. I went up to pay the bill, as I reached for my wallet I realized I had taken my coat off and my 1911 was sitting out in the open in a hip holster all through breaksfast. What was suprising is that there were probably 30 people in there and no one ever said a word or acted strange, even the waitress. I guess with all of us dressed in camo's they just figured I was another dumb hunter that forgot to take off his sidearm.

[Pistolsmith]

Couple of incidents I remembered from reading the above posts.
Once, many years ago, I had just bought a European automatic and had ordered a holster. I was temporarily carrying the gun in a rear pants pocket. Went into a little restaurant and sat down on the pistol. It hurt, so I took it out and put it on the seat next to me.
After I'd left the restaurant...I'd been gone for about an hour... I realized that I'd left the pistol on the seat.
When I came back, the waitress was visibly shaken. I mentioned that I'd left something on the seat, and without a word she produced a bundle. She had wrapped the pistol in two towels and hidden it under the counter. (Well, at least she didn't have to handle it with her bare hands...)
Also, many years ago, I was an officer in the local auxiliary police. My assignment was in plain clothes.
I had stopped by the bus station restaurant to get dinner. At the time I was carrying a pocket pistol in my jacket pocket.
Halfway through the meal, a very young uniformed police officer sitting next to me slapped his wallet with a small identification badge pinned to it on the counter in front of me and said "You're busted!"
I replied: "What?" He pointed nervously to the Walther that had worked part way out of my pocket. I could see that he was shaking and very upset. Oh, great, I thought, what wonderful headlines this eill make: "Officer shot in bus depot by nervous rookie cop."
In a very loud voice I replied: "Don't draw your gun. I'm only reaching for my identification and badge." He turtned beet red and sputtered: "I'm not going to draw on you." "Good!" I replied.
So, I identified myself to him, pushed the pistol back into the pocket and continued my meal. He nervously slurped his coffee and did a rapid exit stage right. The next morning everyone in the department except the chief was chuckling about the rookie patrolman who busted the plainclothes cop in the middle of a bus depot stakeout.
Oh, well, eager beavers being what they are, I figured that I was lucky not to be in intensive care.
Now, if you've been paying attention, you have come to the conclusion that if you carry a pistol every day you can forget that you have it on your person. Not only is this kind of memory lapse very bad gun handling, but it could prove fatal. Don't you ever forget it.

[Edward429451]

Seems like whenever I go tot the range someone always wants to tell me that my pistol is cocked. Especially when I'm wearing the crossdraw open top holster.

I've never been made in public.

[4v50 Gary]

At night school, some of us (Fed & locals) carried our guns with us and some of the women didn't like it when we removed our jackets. The professor knew what we did and didn't mind.

[38snapcaps]

I don't have a "freak out" story, but this is kinda amusing:

My mother in law is not real keen on my carrying a gun, she doesn't like guns in general.

So when my wife and I go over there I am careful to keep my .38 snub out of sight. But this time we drop in for a visit and my father in law offers to take my coat, in the pocket of which I had dropped the piece thinking I'd be taking the coats to the bedroom. I try to stall him but he insists so I hand him my coat. He gives it a couple of hefts and says, " Gee, whatcha got in this, a ton of lead?" Boy, right in front of Mom, oh great! So I try to think fast and to be cute I reply, "well, there is SOME lead in there" as I swallowed hard.

To my amazement my mother in law just grins and points her finger at me and makes bang bang noises. Maybe she is getting close to accepting my carry, ya think?

[Tropical Z]

Only when half the staff at Galyans was ready to jump me because i was open carrying! Refer to TFL.

[Rickstir]

Open carry, for now, in Missouri

I was at a fish fry in the town park and wearing my 92FS on my hip. Saw several people look at it, but this is a small town in the boonies. Then one of the people giving the fish fry called me over. Seems this one little old lady wanted to know why I was carrying a gun in a public place. Two reasons I said. 1) according to Missouri statutes I can and 2) the organization had over $1,000 in receipts for the fish fry. The guy running the place was glad I was there....along with the other two guys also open carrying that night. Didn't satisfy her though, said she was going to talk to her son the deputy. Small town, I know her, she knows me, never heard anything from her son.

Just two weeks ago I went in the barber shop on a saturday morning. Taking off my coat one of the guys I know asked why I am carrying a gun. "He always has a gun" said the barber.

[Skunkabilly]

I'm just afraid someone is going to get the word out that I have an assault rifle (kosher Benelli) in my apartment and the Center for Tactical Skunk Control will come a-knockin' (or not a-knockin').

[CZ-75]

Rickstir,

MO allows local pre-emption. Western Missouri Shooters Alliance has a "stay out of jail card," that documents which localities prohibit open carry.

St. Joe is one, but i find it hard to believe St. Louis isn't another. Be careful heading into the big city, even if that's Hannibal or Kirksville.

[spacemanspiff]

a few weeks ago an old friend came by to discuss why i carry. my mother wanted him to talk to me, since hes always been a father figure to me. he wasnt freaked out, but he did say that he wouldnt want me around his grandkids if i was armed. i told him that day when he left his grandson with me and my nephews/nieces sledding i was armed, and i carry every day.

he wasnt too pleased, and said that he doesnt want to be around any armed person if they arent LEO.

he said that because of our religion we are known as being non-violent and that a christian would never take up arms to defend themselves. i countered with 'yes, i wouldnt take up arms either, if i was under attack because of my religion. but every day senseless violent crimes are commited, which we are under obligation to protect ourselves against. martyrdom for your faith is one thing. martyrdom over someone who wants to hurt you because of how you look or for your wallet or dignity is not part of the equation.'

so i did some research and came across an article that some might say is contradictary. on one hand, the advice given is that its too risky to take up arms. but on the other hand, if you cant talk your way out of the situation or cant escape it, the advice is "you must take every step to ensure your safety". well thats exactly how i intend to handle an attack. if i cant defuse the situation by calmly talking it out, i'll run. the last line of defense is the weapon.
but the articles were written in the '80s so much of the data and evidence is antiquated. nowadays criminals are more likely to injure/kill even if you comply with their demands.

[P95Carry]

Interesting selection of anecdotes in this thread.

Can't claim a ''freakout'' story but ....... just instead a sorta ''heartening'' couple.

Here is CCW .. so that means concealed ..... and technically, if sight seen and there is a freak out .. big do-do if reported .. not good!! But in WalMart last year, summer and lil snubby ...... went to get wallet from right back pocket . usual place ...... and also usually not a prob because have a ''technique'' for withdrawal of that without upsetting t shirt cover over piece .......... this time tho, botched it a bit and t shirt rode up way too far ... oops! Gal on register saw it . maybe too another customer but .. very quickly re-covered it. Gal just nodded ... and stayed cool ...... was relieved. In fact CCW's are common so .. I guess really many people are ''gun aware''.

The other instance was at dentist's ....... like most, I choose to carry .. all time and everywhere .. court house excepted here tho of course ...... and was in chair ... summer again and t shirt not the largest or loosest - oops .... so, sorta ''came clean'' and just said ... ''hope ya don't mind, but .........'' ........... and the response was very laid back ... no sweat.

All in all, it is good to be in a good shooting area and so gun awareness predictably quite high, and paranoia quite low. Always concerned tho and careful therefore, against the time I might ''expose'' to a real anti nut .. I take more care now ... and always watch out for that odd gust of wind when walking across the parking lot ... nearly been caught out that way.:p

[pax]

My neighbor didn't freak when she stopped by the house and noticed my buddy and me cleaning our handguns after a trip to the range.

She didn't freak a few days after that, when she stopped by the house and found my buddy cleaning his 10mm.

She didn't freak when she stopped by and found my buddy teaching my 13 year old how to clean the .22 rifle.

She didn't freak when she stopped by and found my buddy and me cleaning our shotguns.

She didn't freak when she stopped by and caught my buddy teaching my husband how to clean my 9mm.

She didn't freak when she stopped by and found my buddy sharpening his knife, with his recently-cleaned handgun sitting on the table in front of him.

But one day, she stopped by the house and my buddy was there and nobody was cleaning a gun.

Then she freaked.

:D

pax

Who are you and what have you done with the people who used to live here? -- my neighbor

[Kframe]

I took my AR into the shop once for a bit of minor work, and another customer was infront of me in line and had a Citori, an Abolt and an Auto5 out on the counter.
As he finished up I stepped up and took the AR out of the case.
The other customer took a look at the AR, then at me, and said "Son, I don't know what you're doing with that thing. That's dangerous."
Oooooooooo, I got red-mad.
I'm 26, this happened when I was 24 and the other customer was prolly late-50's or so.
Yeah, my AR is dangerous; but what about his double 12ga, the '06, and the 12ga auto?!?
These types of people tick me off to no end.
It's just unexcusable.
:banghead:
-Kframe

[P95Carry]

That Kframe is sadly - all too typical of ''assault weapon'' paranoia. An unjustified and largely media fuelled condition . that suggests that an AR, AK, SKS, whatever .. is or has to be .. the ultimate killing machine .... ''why should anyone ever want one of THOSE''???

Pathetic!!:( - yeah and inexcusable ..... well, to us logical and responsible ''gun nuts'' :)

[Poohgyrr]

Well, the last time I shot IDPA with my Coonan and full power loads (.357 maggies), that woke folks up and they came to look :)....

I try to work hard at the concealment part; only my wife and Doctor see my gun ;). Few people know I carry, and they generally are comfortable about it. Otherwise, a friend's wife is brainwashed and she would freak. I understand and respect his need to keep peace in his home, so I just don't go to their house :)....

[Erik]

"Has anyone freaked-out when they saw your gun?"

Well, one guy trying to break in crapped his pants, so I guess that's a yes.

The other back-peddled so fast down a flight of stairs it was best described as falling *** over tea kettle, so I guess that's another yes.

Erik - Two DGUs without shots fired so far. You know, the things that never happen... (Several other "almost DGUs.")

[JohnBT]

The only time was when I pulled out a brand new polished stainless .45 and my dad's eyes got reeeal big when he realized how much I'd spent. :what:

John

[TheFrontRange]

I used to volunteer as a Reserve Deputy with my local Sheriff's Office. I spent part of my time working with the dispatchers in the Communications Center answering 911 calls. During that time I wore their uniform of a golf-style shirt with a badge embroidered on the chest, khaki pants, and black shoes and belt and an ID card clipped to the shirt. I would also go ahead and carry my weapon "open" on the belt with spare mags and my regular badge clipped near my holster.

One night after getting off duty in the Radio Room, I stopped by the downtown Post Office. I knew this was a no-gun zone, but I was pretty well "marked" as being with the Sheriff's Office. I went on in and bought stamps, etc., from the machine.

In no time flat one a Postal Service police officer had sprinted from the far end of the building to check out just who the heck I was...from his viewpoint, all he could see was a guy in khaki pants and a golf shirt packing heat walking into the place. When he stepped around and could see my assorted forms of ID, he smiled and we chatted for a bit. I made a point any other time I went in there after-hours to find him first and gave him a friendly wave. :)

[blades67]

Has anyone freaked-out when they saw your gun?

Not just because they saw it.

[Rembrandt]

....once when I went to a range for a bowling pin shoot....pulled out a .44mag Desert Eagle (they'd just been out for a few months)....started shooting, rattled the other shooters so much I was asked not to come back to the next shoot.....

Another time I went to an indoor range in central Ohio, bought 100 rounds of 9mm and some targets.....the clerk asked what I was shooting, pulled out a fully engraved Rennaisance Browning High Power....he said "your not going to shoot that are you?"......well, I didn't buy it just for the looks.

[sturmruger]

On Monday I went out with some buddies. We were going to stay over night in a local college town. Our plan was to consume large amounts of adult beverages, and generally have a good time. We were leaving my car and all riding up in my friends car. The only problem was I had accidently left my pistol case in the trunk of my car! I never like hauling around that many guns if I don't have to, but the thought of leaving them in my car to be stolen did not sound like a good plan.

I had my carry gun on me and then I had 5 pistols in the pistol case. I told my buddy right away that I was going to have to bring along my gun case. He thought I was joking. The next morning when we were getting ready to head out to a training meeting he asked me why hauled along that hard plastic case. I was like "I told you yesterday I couldn't leave it in my car so I had to bring it" "What is in it" he asked. I opened the case to show him my three matching Steyr handguns. His mouth dropped open and he couldn't think what to say. The first thing that came out of his mouth was "are those registered?" It was at this point that I realized that the reason he was aprehensive about my guns was his lack of any real knowledge of guns.

He still looks at me like i am some sort of crazed militia member. I am working on him though. I think I will get him out to my house to shoot in the next few weeks.

[Big Al]

I've had it happen two times:

(1) Aunt-In-Law (a real know-everything beeyatch) comes into the family store yapping a bout nothing, as usual, and plunks her huge butt in a chair behind the counter. I was cleaning the barrel of my Glock 19, and had the frame and slide disassembled on the office desk. She takes one look and immediately launches into a shouting diatribe on how I was a "murderer waiting to happen" and how "they ought to jack up the jail and throw me under it before it's too late" and how she was "ashamed for anyone to know she was related to a damn thug", etc etc. Needless to say, that irritated me a bit. My father had to physically restrain me from throwing her out of the store on her head. That was years ago and I still haven't spoken to her.

(2) Another time, while leaving a dance club, a fight broke out in the parking lot in front of my truck. I told one of the combatants to get his shirt off my hood (which he had yanked off pre-fight), and he stomped over to my door cursing, presumably to try and yank me out for wrestlemania. He stopped dead in his tracks and backed off saying "I'm sorry" really loud, over and over again when he got a glimpse of my 6&1/2" 629 44Mag (which I had been shooting at the range earlier) laying in my lap while I grinned at him.

[The Silver Bullet 1719]

Had a friend come over to my house one time, I had just cleaned my Mosin M44 and had the bayonet extended. I went to get the door and she came up to my room and saw 7.62X54R cartridges and my CZ-75 on the bed and the Mosin laying against the wall. Didn't freak out, but said "Can you please put those up like right now?" Luckily she knows that my room has guns and it doesn't bother her much anymore. (Still can't get her to the range quite yet)

[Blackhawk]

But one day, she stopped by the house and my buddy was there and nobody was cleaning a gun.

Then she freaked.:neener:

[Dr.Rob]

I had a roomate that knew nothing about guns, ammo, etc etc and I had been in my half of the duplex doing practice drills for IDPA.. dry firing holstering, etc. Came upstairs to get the mail and walked past him in the kitchen making a sandwich. He was flabbergasted. Stammering he asked why I was wearing a gun.. thing is I had almost forgotten I had it on. He acted nervous around me every time I saw him after that, like he was walking on eggshells waiting for me to snap. Was glad when he moved out and back to Chicago or whatever sheeple place he was from.

Had another time a friend came over and I had left my IDPA holstered 1911 cocked and locked on the dishwasher, he jumped back from it like it was a snake about to bite him. I had to explain that's how you carry a 1911 and its perfectly safe.

Had a young lady I was seeing exclaim one day that she would never ever sleep in a house with a gun, it was far too dangerous. I pointed out she had, in fact slept on top of a bunch of them the night before. We stopped dating almost immediately. :rolleyes:

My feeling is if you remain calm and relaxed they will too, most times.

[Nazgul]

When i first got a CCW in New York state, 1974 ?, I went to a drive thru burger joint. Reached for my wallet and the girl at the window saw the shoulder holstered 357 mag. She screamed at the manager " He's got a gun!" the manager came over and looked at me with my money in my hand, shook his head and gave me my order. Made me think about some people's reactions to unexpectedly seeing a firearm. Here in the small town I live in now at least 1/2 the people carry guns.

[4v50 Gary]

Great story Pax. :D

[Trisha]

Yep:

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=1741

The guy never actually saw it, though. . .

:D

I don't talk about any other time. Well, I might, but I'd have to know you IRL!

Trisha

[kannonfyre]

Was drafted for military service several years ago (been honourably dischared 3 years ago :D ) and had once been assigned to escort a munitions convoy from the ammo dump to some air base. The trip there bypassed populated areas but due to reasons of urgency (someone needed the trucks) the return trip with empty trucks was authorised to pass through a tourist district.

When we were half way through the bars and shopping malls the truck I was in broke down and I had to dismount with my M-16 and wait for a military tow truck. In the meanwhile, I got several curious looks from european tourists who took pictures but a middle aged japanese couple gave me and my driver the evil eye whilst pointing and sounding really unhappy. My driver understood japanese and this is what they said, "they should keep the fascist military AWAY from civilian areas! If that gun goes off now someone could get hurt! What the :cuss: gives those ARMED soldiers the right to be here....in a crowded tourist district!"

:rolleyes: The LT who authorised the return trip route got chewed out, and we never had another incident like that again but I found it pretty funny. :)

[Mikul]

The worst reaction I've even gotten was from an unknown person at an outdoor range. He was doing some shooting with some .308 bolt action and I was playing with my FAL. I was getting all kinds of dirty looks. He was shooting very slowly, about one round every 2 minutes and I was shooting at various speeds. We both went downrange to pull targets. He saw mine, 2x better than his scoped bolt action and left the range immediately.

[hops]

San Jose Int. Airport, Terminal C. Was starting the 'I've got a firearm to declare', speech and opened the case up at the same time. Ticket Agent freaked out. Jumped back about 2 feet. This was before 9/11. Turned out it was her first day on the job and I walked her through the procedure. The more Sr. Ticket agent watching over he was just swamped.

[Archer]

Oddly enough, the only incident I have had in more than 10 years was in Chino Valley, AZ, when I stopped by the Safeway on my way back to my room in the "Bates Motel" midweek of a Gunsite class.

Well, naturally it's rural Arizona, about six miles from pistol Mecca as the raven flies, and you carry openly in a place like that. At least all the old geezers do. I figure that's one way they got to be old geezers. I never gave it a second thought.

Until the apparently-non-English speaking possible-illegal- immigrant in aisle three saw me as I picked out something to have for lunch the next day.

As nearly as I recall:

He took one look at me, two looks at my cocked and locked pistol, developed a look sort of like this: :what: ...while simultaneously dropping a jar of something red. He then proceeded to get out of Dodge at a high rate of speed...

[Alan Smithiee]

not a freek out but....

was in the exam room waiting for the doc, nurse comes in, starts to adjust the table, it jams up, she stats to cus at it, and I jokeingly ask her is she wants to borrow a 9mm, she doesn't even look at me, just lifts up the hem of her top up a bit and I see what turned out to be a .44 Bulldog. "I'll use mine"....

gotta love living in Idaho....