Winchester Super X1 Q's


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vanfunk
July 27, 2004, 06:52 AM
Hi there folks,
I came across a Winchester Super X1 yesterday in about 98% condition, for what I thought was an appalingly low price: $275. Needless to say, I bought it:D . It has a 30 inch ribbed full choked barrel, which isn't exactly what I was after, so I'm thinking about two options:
1) Get choke tubes installed
2) buy a 28" IC or skeet barrel

Anyone know where to buy a Super X1 barrel? I hope they're not toooo expensive.

I know virtually noting about the maintenance of this shotgun. Is there a manual online somewhere, or are replacement manuals available from the factory?

Lastly, is there anything I need to know about my new acquisition before I start playing with it?

Thanks!
vanfunk

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kudu
July 27, 2004, 09:14 AM
Waiting for sm to chime in. ;) He seems to be the resident expert on X1's.

From the little experience I have with X1's you made a great buy, full choke or not. You may want to pattern the barrel before giving up on it. 30" barrel would be my choice for clay games, a bit long maybe for brush hunting but manageable.

HSMITH
July 27, 2004, 10:37 AM
If it were me I would jumping for joy, the only thing wrong with a 30" barrel is it isn't 32" long. Seriously, shoot it for a bit. That long barrel won't impeded anything, and it will help on some shots. I shot a 32" O/U for skeet for a long time, I love long barrels.

Dave McCracken
July 27, 2004, 10:40 AM
Very good deal. Extra barrels may be a prob, but there's X-1 specialists on the Net. Google your way to them and ask.

The X-1 is a very durable and reliable shotgun. In your shoes, I'd get a smith to check it out and replace all the springs, a 20K round rebuild with autos.

sm will fill in the details....

sm
July 27, 2004, 12:54 PM
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I'm sorry, The SX1 is a overated, ugly, piece of junk. I'll give you $10 for it and pay shipping, I need a wall hanger, and I guess this will do. *shrug*.

sm
July 27, 2004, 01:11 PM
I'm Kidding!!

Hey can't blame a fella for trying...

If Harley [ Jagermeister] does not have the owners manuel, then both of you and Harley contact me, I will make a copy of mine and send it. Jagermeister probably needs this for his resources anyway.

Great guns! Bob Brister tested all makes and models and the SX1 ran in dust, blowing sand, wet, rain, snow, sleet , and kept doing so when other gas guns quit. Even when some other platforms quit. My testing has proven the same results btw.

NuLine out of Missouri, has Winchester parts and stuff. I sent them my 28" Modified bbl and had External Knurled screw in chokes installed that would handle steel shot. My '74 model is still running, and I competed with it for years...like 25K rds a years for many many years. Name a critter, and I've most likely shot it with mine.

I would wait until you have instructions before you get radical with takedown. If Nuline does not have and extra bbl, I would trust them to do the chokes, they have in small increments and can tailor the choke to bore, lenthen forcing cone, and make GREAT recommedations.

Get extra "O" rings, bolt handle. I have not had "O" rings fail, nor have I had a bolt handle fly off in a duck blind...but I kept extras handy in Mr. Murphy showed up.

Machined steel, proven gas system, great balance...Wood and Blue...:cool:

Congrats!

Mike-SoCal
July 28, 2004, 12:46 AM
Vanfunk,

For info, advice, parts contact: Bob Baumgart at, www.rjbsuperx1.com

Mike

vanfunk
July 28, 2004, 09:16 AM
Thanks all!

In the couple of days that I've owned this shotgun, I've come to be even more impressed with its quality of construction and smooth action. There's no visible wear or rust on the piston (externally) and the little assembly sticker is still on it. It really doesn't look like it's had more than a box of shells through it. I still have no idea how to disassemble the piston or remove the bolt and buffer. I think it has what looks like a wooden magazine plug in it, which I'd like to remove. Owner's manuals seem to be as scarce as hen's teeth!

I think it's one of the earlier ones, as the vented barrel rib is joined to the muzzle by a hex head screw. I still think I'll try to replace the bolt buffer and o-ring, as I understand that these things deteriorate as much with age as they do with use. You guys are right about the 30" barrel - after handling the shotgun for a while it just seems perfect. I think the choke's going to be too tight for me, though. I'm still debating the option of choke tubes.

How this gun was priced so low is a complete mystery to me - there were two other SX1's at the store (Kittery Trading Post, Maine) showing hard field use and a lot of wear, for $350. Well, I've spent so much money buying, selling and horsetrading guns, it's about time I got a deal!

Thanks again for your help,
vanfunk

sm
July 28, 2004, 10:43 AM
1053 CAULKS HILL ROAD
HARVESTER, MISSOURI 63303
(636)441-4500 ---(636)447-4501

http://www.nulineguns.com/parts.htm

Company Profile

Nu-Line Guns, Inc. is a corporation founded in 1949. Continual growth has made it necessary for us to move to larger facilities twice. At this time, our 7,000 square foot building in the small town of Harvester, Missouri is bulging at the seams, again.

Nu-Line serves the firearm industry in three capacities.

Gunsmithing
Our oldest department is an authorized warranty repair station for all eight major gun manufactures and boasts combined gunsmithing experience of more that 150 years! Our belief is of the old world tradition where doing something right the first time is the best way to do the job.

Parts Distribution
Our parts distribution center carries parts for all eight of the manufacturers for which we repair firearms under warranty. We have an inventory of more that $2,000,000.00 and it's still growing! The majority of our parts orders are shipped within 24 hours of the time that the order is placed. Click here to view parts diagram.

Production
We are very proud of our production team that specializes in manufacturing screw-in choke tubes in a variety of types and sizes. They are also skilled in producing some obsolete gun parts. These parts are primarily for Winchester firearms, but our full-fledged machine shop can produce almost any part needed.



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vanfunk
July 28, 2004, 04:40 PM
Thanks!

I wrote Nuline an e-mail inquiry.

Sparky
July 28, 2004, 11:58 PM
There's a guy here in Dixie..Vintage Sporting..who advertises in Gunlist and usually has Super X 1 barrels listed.
Web site is www.vintagesporting.com
I'll bet a spare barrel will cost nearly what you paid for your shot gun.

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