[David Crane]

I was just watching an "Access Hollywood" bit on the new Michael Mann/Tom Cruise film "Collateral". Cruise looked pretty good, in terms of gun handling and shooting.

I know that Mick Gould (former SAS, I believe) was the primary technical advisor for the film, but does anyone know whether or not Cruise attended any specific shooting schools like the Crucible Training Center, Gunsite, etc...

In other words, did anyone else train him, besides Mr. Gould? And if so, who?

If Mr. Gould conducted all the training, what facility did they use?

[Gandalf]

Why would you want to start a thread concerning one of the most rabid anti-gun celebrities in Hollywood? That little punk is no friend of gun owners or the 2nd Amendment. :fire:

[Lone_Gunman]

I bet he trained with the SEELs.

[David Crane]

First, I don't know what Tom Cruise's politics are, nor do I really care, at the moment. I'm just curious as to who trained him. His technique looked pretty solid, and more impressive than what I've usually seen on film.

It's some of the best gun handling/shooting technique I've seen since movies like "Heat" and "Way of the Gun".

[Sven]

He was trained by L Ron Hoover and the Church of Appliantology, for all I know. ;)

[David Crane]

Thanks, Sven! I knew I could count on you guys. :)

[ZeroX]

Thanks, Sven! I knew I could count on you guys.

Heh, he was joking about Cruise being a Scientologist.

[Hatchett]

Michael Mann always has his actors trained. It should be good.
I'm just dissapointed that Cruise isn't using a custom 1911, like most of Mann's other characters.

[CannibalCrowley]

Gandalf Why would you want to start a thread concerning one of the most rabid anti-gun celebrities in Hollywood? That little punk is no friend of gun owners or the 2nd Amendment.I honestly can't recall him saying anything against the RKBA. I do recall him speaking out in favor of the war when Iraq started up. I also recall several incidents where he came to the aid of complete strangers, such as when he chased off some guys who were mugging a woman a couple years back.

Since you're so adamantly against him, would you care to point out some examples of him opposing the 2nd?

[Trebor]

Heh, he was joking about Cruise being a Scientologist.

If Cruise actually went anywhere to train, I'd bet money it was at Front Sight.

[azrael]

Is that movie even out yet?? Dont know much about his gun handling abilities, but he can shoot a mean game of pool..

Booritz says he is a midget! :D

[another48hrs]

I think I rember Tom Cruises' name being on that one letter about putting locks on guns or something to that effect. I think it was something spear headed by Rosie O' donnell. :barf:

[Boats]

Cruise is too small to handle a 1911. Maybe he could handle the GAP.:p

[joe sixpack]

Welcome to THR David.

I do not know the information to your question, hopefully someone
will come along who does.

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In that this country does allow for worship or non worship of
whatever your favorite religion is, if you please let's keep it THR.



cheers, ab

[rock jock]

As an aside, I heard a recent interview with Matt Damon about his role on the Bourne movies. He said that he spent several weeks on gun training with an instructor near LA and fired "tens of thousands" of rounds. I know he does a lot of preparation for his movies and it is pretty obvious in the Bourne series.

[gryphon]

Tom Cruise is a piece of crap and an overrated actor. Just one more movie that I know to stay away from.

[Zundfolge]

I'm just dissapointed that Cruise isn't using a custom 1911, like most of Mann's other characters.

I think he should dig up Crockets old Bren Ten :evil:

[Zach S]

Cruise is too small to handle a 1911. Considering he's got a few punds on me, STFU! I dont need no F-ing GAP!!!

:D

[GoWyo!]

Howdy all,

I saw that blurb on TV also, Tom was saying HK this, HK that, not mentioning any model numbers, then went on to say how much fun it was. That now he is pretty good with a sword and a pistol.

Careful Tom, everyone likes a little fun.

No answer to your question, just adding to the thread.

[JohnKSa]

Booritz says he is a midget!So far every actor/actress I have seen in person* is way smaller than I expected with some of them being absolutely tiny.

*The single exception was Peter Mayhew--the fellow who played Chewbacca in Star Wars.

[Ironman]

Hey, We just found out through our pool contractors(building new pool) that they are building Tom Cruises pool at his new mansion just 5 min from my house. Well its funny cause our area is nothing like hollywood, and he moved smack dab next door to the only other mansion in our area owned by Matt geiger the basketball player.(hes an ass Ive met him at our local blimpie a couple of times). Then we thought about it and there is a big scientologist HQ in Clearwater and in Tarpon. So that makes sense, Ill try to get Tom to challenge me at a range with his new aquired "shooting skills" lol. Ill bet him a million bucks.lol

[azrael]

JohnKSa,
Yea...Mayhew is a big boy...I have a pic somewhere of him and Gunnar Hansen posing together at a convention or something...only guy there that could make Gunnar look SHORT:D

Of the celebrities that I have met very few have been as impressive in person as they were on screen...The exception would be Paul White (WWE's "Big Show")...ya wanna say massive?? That is a big guy!

[Shadowman]

OP,

saw the movie, same sentiments.

One part looked like it was taken from Grover's Combative pistol...

The club scene (Fever) was entertaining as well

[jeff-10]

Whenever someone mentions an actor on this board half the threads end up being about how anti-2nd Amendment they are. It never fails. Someone will claim they saw them on Oprah saying only cops should have guns and then someone else will say the NRA put them on there blacklist. Then someone else will claim they are one of the liberal elite who think its ok for them to own weapons but noone else. I truly doubt many of the actors out there are truly vocal against gun rights, considering all of them are armed to the teeth in there movies and in RL. Its just not a major issue for most people.

[Shadowman]

Contributions to Political Committees

CRUISE, TOM
LOS ANGELES, CA 90038
CRUISE/WARNER PRODUCTIONS

DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE
05/19/1998 5000.00 98033193369

BOXER, BARBARA
VIA FRIENDS OF BARBARA BOXER
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DASCHLE, THOMAS ANDREW
VIA A LOT OF PEOPLE SUPPORTING TOM DASCHLE INC
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LEADERSHIP '02 (FKA FRIENDS OF ALBERT GORE JR INC)
11/06/1998 2500.00 98033993150

Total Contributions: 11000.00

Joint Fundraising Contributions

These are contributions to committees who are raising funds to be distributed to other committees. The breakdown of these contributions to their final recipients may appear below

MAJORITY 2000
09/02/1999 10000.00 20035110075

NEW YORK SENATE 2000
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DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE
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CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM
VIA HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FOR US SENATE COMMITTEE INC
12/27/1999 1000.00 20020041066
12/27/1999 1000.00 20020041066

Recipient Total: 20000.00

[CannibalCrowley]

I could really care less if some actor, director or whatever is an anti as long as they don't preach about it. Cruise's donor list has some antis on it, big deal. I really doubt that anyone could "blacklist" every person and corporation that has supported an anti at some point in time. This goes double for those who realize that a lot of Republicans are anti too. Remember, not everyone is a one issue voter. In fact, some people completely ignore the issue of firearms.

Just for fun let's see who a blacklist type person would keep their money from.
Sony _Hustler
Disney _Penthouse
Chrysler _Playboy
Apple _Martha Stewart
General Electric (GE) _Jack Nicholson
NBC _Ed Norton
CBS _Lucy Liu
ABC _Tommy Lee Jones
Tom Hanks _Harrison Ford
Ron Howard _Matt Damon
Robert Deniro _Kevin Costner
Don Johnson _Burt Reynolds
Sylvester Stallone _Farrah Fawcett
Ted Danson _The Yankees/George Steinbrenner
Dan Aykroyd _The Simpsons
Chevy Chase _Danny DeVito
Andre Agassi _Jimmy Buffett
Bruce Springsteen _Stan Lee (Marvel Comics)
and many many more... but you get the picture.

[gmshtr]

Hi David,

I was recently talking to Taran Butler, a top USPSA competitor in CA, and he mentioned the guy who was working with Cruise, but I can't remember his name. Taran does alot of Hollywood Firearms Instruction (he's buddies w/ James Cameron), so I'm sure he would know.

Who know's, it could've been training for MI3.

Phil Strader

[gmshtr]

Turns out that Mick was the guy Taran was telling me about.

Oh well.

I could've taught Tom a thing or two! :D

Phil

[jimmyjoebob]

u sure it was him?
I watched a special about the movie the other night,and it stated that Guy Rock trained Crusie for the pistol and hand to hand stuff. Interesting point about Rock, he trains you to add on your strengths, not by teaching new skills from the ground up. Cruise said he really enjoyed his time at the range as well... who knows he might convert just yet