Any rifles chambered for .32 ACP ?


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Mulliga
July 29, 2004, 12:01 PM
Are there any?

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mete
July 29, 2004, 12:22 PM
The 1903 Springfield MKI had the pederson device which was a semi auto conversion using a round similar to the 32 acp. Other than that who would want a 32acp rifle ??

Mulliga
July 29, 2004, 01:06 PM
Just curious - the recent threads on pistol caliber carbines made me wonder how far down in power they go. After all, .22 LR is weaker than any other pistol round, and yet many, many rifles are chambered for it.

vwfool
July 29, 2004, 01:12 PM
I never wanted one, but I am still suprised somone somewhere hasn't made one. I think about the closest youl get is a Marlin in .32 H&R, and thats not very close at all.

ACP230
July 29, 2004, 01:37 PM
There's a piece called the AP70 (I think). It's a semi-auto that looks like a slightly malformed AR15.
It was probably made in the Philipines by an outfit called Squires Bingham.
The same gun was made in .22 and in .22 Magnum.

Not a carbine, but a subgun, the Czech Skorpian, was made in .32ACP.
It's a short piece with a folding wire stock.
I haven't got to shoot one yet, but really would like to.

Other than those, I don't know any.

Selfdfenz
July 29, 2004, 02:42 PM
Back in the Bonnie and Clyde Era I believe Savage produced an autoloader in 32 ACP. I think they had a version that handled 25 cal auto also.

For some reason I recall (probably incorrectly) that one of those rifles figured in their last shoot-out, or more correctly got-shot-at.

S-

Jim Watson
July 29, 2004, 02:56 PM
The only .32ACP rifle I ever saw was a Dreyse ca 1920s.

MAKOwner
July 29, 2004, 04:59 PM
Jaeger makes a AP74 in .22lr and a version of the same thing in .32 ACP (maybe it's called a AP70 as someone said above, not sure), I had one of the .22lr models, never actually saw a .32 ACP model. Mitchell imported and sold them for awhile, not sure who else. It is a M16 lookalike, however it's a dead ringer for the real thing, nothing "malformed" about it or at least mine certainly wasn't (like the numerous crappy .22lr M16 knockoffs from the phillipines or whatever).... Seems like they did offer some with a crappy sidefolder stock that wasn't quite right though.

Rexzila
July 29, 2004, 08:22 PM
The ole Warsaw Pact Scorpian machine gun was made in .32acp. I never saw one in the flesh, but remember them featured in some Chuck Norris films. Also it was suppose to be the favorite of "Calos The Jackel" a famed terrorist of the eighties.

telewinz
July 29, 2004, 08:42 PM
The AR7 when it first came out in the 60's was available in 32acp. In the movie "Rage" staring George C. Scott (1970's) his character used one to good effect. 200+ foot pounds of energy is enough to get someone's attention.

Bullet Bob
July 30, 2004, 08:45 AM
There used to be, and I believe still are, subcalibre inserts so you could fire different pistol cartfidges in centerfires with appropriate bore size. If I remember correctly, you could shoot .32's in any .308 manual action. I've seen some for sale recently in Shotgun News.

444
July 30, 2004, 09:08 AM
I shoot quite a bit of .32 ACP out of rifles with a cartridge adapter. It allows you to fire .32 ACP cartridges in a .30 rifle: I have these adapters in .30-06, .303 British, 7.62x54R, and 7.5 Swiss.

They are very quiet, have absolutely no recoil, and exhibit decent accuracy (plinking accuracy), however .32 ACP ammo costs more than most milsurp ammo. The adapter makes some sense in the 7.5 Swiss, but the rest of it is a gimmick.

1911Tuner
July 30, 2004, 09:30 AM
The Pedersen Device was an attempt to turn the bolt rifle into a "Trench Broom", but it pedered out...:D

Tamara
July 30, 2004, 09:35 AM
There's a piece called the AP70 (I think). It's a semi-auto that looks like a slightly malformed AR15.
It was probably made in the Philipines by an outfit called Squires Bingham.

The AP74 was made by Armi Jaeger in Italy. It was, as MAKOwner points out, a near dead ringer for the M16, unlike the Armscorp guns. It was last imported by EMF. The MSRP for the .32 ACP version was $255, at a time when a Grade I Browning .22 auto could be had for an MSRP of $295, and a Ruger 10/22 sported an MSRP of $176. This should neatly illustrate why it is no longer imported. Magazines for the .32 ACP version hold 15 rounds (IIRC) and are nearly impossible to come by without buying a spare gun as well...

Gordon
July 31, 2004, 03:13 PM
I have a Steven favorite rechambered from .32 rim fire to .32 S&W Long. It will fire .32acp too! It is quiet! I also, like 444 have chamber adapters in .303 British for my Martini BSA , and 30-06 and .308 for quiet times...;)

ACP230
July 31, 2004, 03:21 PM
Tamara:
I stand corrected.
Should have gotten out the old Gun Digests and looked it up, instead of shooting from the lip!

Tamara
July 31, 2004, 04:54 PM
Should have gotten out the old Gun Digests and looked it up

Sshhh! You'll give away our secret! :D


(Although I do remember the AP74 fairly well, as I used to have one in .22LR back in the day. No magazine, of course... :mad: )

Dionysusigma
July 31, 2004, 11:50 PM
IIRC, the Skorpion machine "pistol" (it had a stock) had a few models in .32...

JA
August 1, 2004, 12:48 AM
The Philipine mfg. rifles are not copies of the AR-15 buy sorta kinda look like a AR-15. They were chambered for the 22LR and 22 WMR only.

The Armi Jager AP-74 were authentic shooting reproductions of the Colt AR-15 rifle. There was also a model AP-74W with a wood stock and a folding stock model was also imported but was chambered for the 22LR only.
EMF Co. Inc. imported the AP-74 adn AP-74W rifles chambered in 22LR and 32acp till 1989.
Mitchell Arms Inc. imported the AP-74 rifle chambered in 22LR,22WMR(1987 only),and 32acp from 1987-1994 as the model M-16A3.

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