[Oleg Volk]

http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/blades/2bayonets.sized.jpg
Swiss engineer's bayonet converted for mounting on an M16 or an AR15 by THR's own madmike. M14 bayonet shown for comparison.
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/blades/ar15bayonet.sized.jpg

[R.H. Lee]

:what:

[FPrice]

That conversion really allows you to "Reach out and touch someone.".

[Warren]

Drool!

Looks kind of like a chain sword from some game or another.

[Schuey2002]

Holy [Edited by me to meet the approval of Art's Grandma]...!!

:what: :eek: :what:

[JShirley]

Wow! I don't care if it'll fit onto an AR or not- I WANT ONE!

[winstonsmith]

Yummy.

[DigMe]

That picture should be posted in the current "making a spear" thread.

brad cook

[carpettbaggerr]

How's it going to go in with those sawteeth facing the wrong way? :confused: Nice wallhanger, but I don't think it'd be too functional.

[George Hill]

Sweet. A way to make the M-16 into a real weapon.
:neener:

[asdaf]

The sawteeth are only on the last 3 feet of the blade. Guess they figure that you'll never bury it into anything past the the first 2 feet of spear point so it doesn't matter which way they're facing.

[Kaylee]

How's it going to go in with those sawteeth facing the wrong way?

Because steel is harder than flesh and bone? :)

That said, I believe the sawteeth aren't intended for fighting -- given that it's an engineer's bayonet, I'd reckon that the saw teeth are intended for use as..well.. a saw. Same with the slight bulge at the tip -- get a little more weight out there for hacking brush and the like. Looks like quite a decent field tool that someone just figured "hey, as long as we're making the guys carry this thing, let's just fit it so it goes on a rifle and can scare the lager out of the Germans... "

:)

[4v50 Gary]

The AR with a pioneer's saw tooth bayonet is but another way to get more leverage when you have to saw down a tree. :p

[bad LT]

Now let no one doubt the man stopping abilities of the M16.

[JShirley]

I like the reverse saw teeth. They mean one might still be able to do a reinforced cut, if necessary. Who seriously thinks those teeth would impede a good stab or thrust w/ bayonet? :)
John

[Moparmike]

On a serious note, wouldnt that impede the hand-to-hand abilities of the weapon? Sure, if you stuck them dead-on then there is no arguement, but if that thing glances, it could hinder you. Not to mention how easily it could snap or bend the barrel. Wouldnt that throw the balance of the weapon off horribly?


On a less serious note, I always wanted to know what the bayonett for a self-propelled artilery peice would look like...:D

[Mikul]

I don't think I have enough clicks up on my AR to compensate for that thing dangling on the end.

[Harry Tuttle]

nice blood groove

:D

[Vert]

I've never seen an AR/M16 style rifle that looked as good as that one does. It really is quite exquisite!


I wonder where he got the bayonet for this piece of artwork, though. I fell in love with that bayo the second I clicked on this thread, decided I had to have one for my collection, but I just can't seem to find one for sale anywhere. Google has let me down thus far, anyone else have any ideas?

[hso]

HEheeheeeeesnortsnarfheeheehee:evil:

Harumph, uhhhh, sorry 'bout that!:uhoh:


Got to handle an engineer's bayo just a couple of weeks ago. Not too bad a field expedient tool for sawing, hacking, prying, grubbing.

[Gewehr98]

I've been looking for a bayonet to fit my 1911 Schmidt-Rubin, and there's a beauty right there - but it's modified to fit an AR-15 now. :(

[Harry Tuttle]

thar she blows!

(well at least her cousin)
http://www.bayonetsonline.com/for_sale.htm
http://www.ebayonet.com/bayonetsn_s.htm

[Thumper]

How's it going to go in with those sawteeth facing the wrong way

Painfully.

[Gewehr98]

Or should I say, my 1911 S-R thanks you! :D

[cordex]

Talked to Mike today at the Indy 1500 and got to see this. Very, very amusing.

[Sunray]

"...those sawteeth facing the wrong way..." Those teeth are for cutting wood. The same style was issued during WW I to Brit engineer troops. German troops supposedly shot anyone captured with one as they thought it made bayonet wounds more severe. Mind you, I seem to recall seeing saw toothed Mauser bayonets too.
The major troopie complaint about the No. 4 spike bayonet was you couldn't cut wood or open a can with it. Most bayonets were used as utility knives.
I wonder how much the AR barrel bends with that thing on the rifle. Very early M-16 barrels actually dropped the MPI with a bayonet attached.

[Dr.Rob]

You could put enough leverage on that to bent the barrel on your AR... or crack the stock.

When I mounted the 17 inch baynet on the 1903... I can see why people fear the charge. That's a LOT of steel.

[lee n. field]

Makes me want to get a bayonette for my Ishapore (for real) or my Mini-14 (for fun).

How's it going to go in with those sawteeth facing the wrong way? Nice wallhanger, but I don't think it'd be too functional.

Depends who's using it.

Many years back I took an anthropology class about technology. One of the interesting tidbits I retain from that class is that only Europeans (we count as Euros in this case) use saws designed for pushing. Everyone else makes saws designed for pulling.

[SteelyDan]

Okay, fine. Since everyone else is too polite to say it, I will: That's a seriously nasty anti-zombie platform. C'mon, you were all thinking it.

[madmike]

It was a damaged 1914 Swiss Engineer's bayonet for the Schmidt-Rubin rifle

I milled a new butt and latch (4140 chrome-moly) and forged the guard and ring(5160 spring steel). The hilt will be phosphated when done, and I'm working on a US standard scabbard, in case any officer ever asks me if it's issue. ;)

"Yes, Sir, but they're kinda hard to find now." ;)

http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/rants/skippylist.htm for some comments on bayonets, among other things.

It's not very heavy, doesn't affect handling much, doesn't affect accuracy. It might damage the barrel on a hard hit, but I wouldn't plan on using it until I was out of ammo, anyway.

The teeth are for sawing stakes in a wire obstacle on the advance, and the phallic tip is a percussion bulb for chopping--you crawl on your back, saw first and cut (in theory).

So a PUSHED blade makes sense under the circumstances, and is also less likely to hang up on a thrust.

If anyone needs one, I think I can find one in good shape for about $150-$200. If you want me to mount your bayonet of any kind for your rifle of any kind, I'll take a look and see if I can do it.

Thanks for the compliments

Mike

[madmike]

Oh, the blade is 20", as long as the barrel.

If you want to mount it on a 24" or 16" barrel, I think I can figure out how.

Mike

[Sylvilagus Aquaticus]

I like it. It makes an AR into a naganata.

Sharp steel thingies make me all warm and cuddly inside.

Regards,
Rabbit.

[seeker_two]

http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/blades/ar15bayonet.sized.jpg


Sheesh... :what:

Most guys would just get a Corvette or Big Bertha golf clubs.... ;)




Someone really should e-mail that to Feinstein...:evil:

[madmike]

Most guys would just get a Corvette or Big Bertha golf clubs....

Insert obligatory Freudian jokes here.

I want to get a Badger handguard and a bipod. I've got the Beta C-mag on order.

So...phallic swell at the tip, dangly pair of round things underneath...

If I'm going to be accused of compensating, then I am BY GOD going to compensate.

There's no arguing with those people anyway. :banghead:

[Don Gwinn]

I find them here on occasion, Gewehr, but inevitably wayyy overpriced. I'd like to have one for my K31 (though I'm not sure it's correct, they're pretty neat.)

I LIKE the sawteeth on those. If you haven't seen them, they're true offset teeth with round surfaces where most modern production "sawback" knives have inline teeth with sharp corners that snag constantly and don't really cut. Those would be labor intensive to make, but they look like you could actually saw something with them.

You don't really realize how huge it would be on the end of a gun until you hold one, though. :what:

[Kharn]

Its better for the saw teeth to be reversed: it might be harder going in, but at least it wont take Hercules to remove it from the ribcage once the deed is done.

Kharn

[Tactical]

That thing reminded me of the kabobs I have in the fridge.

I'd say you could kabob atless three people with that thing.

[madmike]

I'd say you could kabob atless three people with that thing

get me three goats and a bag of onions and we'll find out.

[ksnecktieman]

Is there an old song around about "A bayonet built for two?"

[twoblink]

you can put holes in the swiss cheeze wheel AND cut it.. very cool..

[UnintendedConsequences]

Make one of those for a M-1 Garand bayonet mount and I am sold on getting one. That would be quite the muzzle-rise compensator for when I have to make standing off-hand shots. Might be even better for when I go feral hog hunting. When charged that bayonet would do a good run through the marauding porker.

Besides, mounted on a Garand that would make a statement just as a wall-decoration.

[madmike]

Make one of those for a M-1 Garand bayonet mount and I am sold on getting one. That would be quite the muzzle-rise compensator for when I have to make standing off-hand shots. Might be even better for when I go feral hog hunting. When charged that bayonet would do a good run through the marauding porker.

Finally! A practical 21st century use for the Garand :neener:

I'll see if I can work one up.

[SMLE]

Just a few minutes with a round file.

The bayonet for the US Krag rifle was a direct copy of the Swiss bayonet of the time. The US 1905 is only slightly different. A US 1905 will fit on a Swiss rifle with NO modifications. The Swiss bayonet would only need the muzzle ring bored out slightly to fit on an 1903 or Garand.

[homeka45]

Awesome.