Kel-Tec SU-47 Rumor?


Badger Arms
August 1, 2004, 04:56 AM
I'd like to start the Rumor that the SU-16 is being redesigned to accept AK-47 magazines and shoot the 7.62x39 round. Anybody want it?

Anybody want to photoshop it?

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August 1, 2004, 05:07 AM
I'll feed this rumour. PS job coming soon to a post near you...

And yeah, I wouldn't mind one... if they're priced right. Say in the $350-$400 range... :)

August 1, 2004, 06:03 AM
How's this? :D
(Note the heavier barrel and improved front sight)

Badger Arms
August 1, 2004, 12:29 PM
LOL, that PS job looks like a bull barrel. The only time I've ever had the opportunity, I asked George Kelgren if he would ever make a gun in 45 ACP, he said, "No," and that was the end of the conversation. Next time I see him, I'm asking if he'll ever make the SU-16 in 7.62x39.... cross your fingers!

George Hill
August 1, 2004, 12:40 PM
But why bother when you can get an AK Clone for the same price?
What would be the advantage of this KT gun?

Andrew Wyatt
August 1, 2004, 12:47 PM
it weighs half as much and folds up really small.

and it has better sights.

Badger Arms
August 1, 2004, 03:33 PM
And it's cool. Don't forget the cool factor. I wouldn't mind a polymer AK receiver'd gun with aluminum sight and gas blocks. I think that would be really light and handy.

August 1, 2004, 04:22 PM
And it would be **********-legal. All AK receivers are on the statewide "Assault Weapon" ban list-including Saigas :cuss:

Yeah, that'd be sweeet.

George Hill
August 1, 2004, 04:26 PM
Let's see... in 7 weeks we just might be able to put folding stocks on our AKs.
And the sights issue is moot. Cool factor can not be discounted... and California Legal... Well... you California guys have a lot more patience that I do. Good luck with that.

August 1, 2004, 11:42 PM
It would be more reliable, too.


(Ducking madly for cover!)

Andrew Wyatt
August 2, 2004, 12:08 AM
and simpler to operate.

Badger Arms
August 2, 2004, 02:59 AM
Really, it's easier to mount a scope on and much more rust resistant. Easier to operate the safety, folding bipod, easy to mount a flashlight, and MADE IN THE USA!

August 2, 2004, 08:28 AM
probably would be more accurate than your average AK too!
Better ergonomics, sights, bipod, lighter.....and definately made in the USA.
Have been looking at the SU-16 cuz I may end up on the other side of the curtain.....but a 7.62 Russian version would be better(for me).

W Turner
August 2, 2004, 10:30 AM
IIRC, there was a thread about this on KTOG and when asked directly, Kellgren had said that that there were no plans to start developing a 7.62x39 version of the SU-16.

Sometime I wonder about their marketing ideas.


Med 10
August 2, 2004, 11:01 AM
That looks like a Hungarian 20 rounder.

I would buy one in 7.62x39. It would make a great camp,truck gun. Imagine one with a plastic waffle mag. COOL!

August 2, 2004, 12:03 PM
I have been beating back the temptation to pick one of these up in .223 ... .the ability to use AK mags (And drums!) in one of these would push me over the top and I would buy a 7.62x39 version in a heartbeat.

George Hill
August 2, 2004, 04:14 PM
Just talked to Kel-Tec. They have no plans on making this rifle.

Guess an SKS would have to do.

August 2, 2004, 05:22 PM
I looked at the schematic. It looks like the SU-16 may be modified by replacing with AR15's 7.62x39 barrel, and the bolt, and the megazine to shoot 7.62x39.

Hmmm... may be I should pick one of this up and take one apart.


August 2, 2004, 06:01 PM
I'd buy that booger in an instant! :D

August 2, 2004, 06:06 PM
More reliable? Justin, you must have used some really crappy AKs my friend. :)

Andrew, simpler to operate? :D If you can run a shovel, you can run an AK!

It would be cool though. At $75 a case, there is a lot to love about 7.62x39.

August 2, 2004, 06:27 PM
Let's make a folding carbine for nine, and 40 Short and Weak; but not one for the venerable .45 acp that uses 1911 mags because it is more popular today than ever before. Let's make a rifle in .223, but not a 30 cal one that uses cheap ammo and has improvements of the 7.62 varients currently available. A round that can be most useful in the hunting field in a short, handy, light rifle.
Let's not continue the scope rail forward, so people can 'scout' it out. And there is no reason to put sling swivels on them.
But let's make tiny popguns people can drop in their pocket's complete with yucky trigger's.
All that yankee ingenuity, a fairly decent product line 'made in the USA', good engineering, CNC and high tech materials......
But ignoring potential market gaps.....
I'd buy a .45 carbine that uses 1911 mags AND a SU-47, but not a .32 or 380 popgun. May HAVE to buy an SU-16 IF I move to the People's Republic, cause there is nothing better(in the price range..can buy two SU-16's for an M1A!). They no likely my Kalishkinov's there....they'll rest safely out of state in storage.
Oh well, Life is Strange.

Andrew Wyatt
August 2, 2004, 06:51 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how good sights are a moot point, though.

George Hill
August 2, 2004, 07:13 PM
Because there are plenty of aftermarket replacement options.
Don't have that shovel liscense yet, do ya?


August 2, 2004, 10:10 PM
No 7.62x39 huh? Bummer. How bout .45 Win. Mag.? :evil: Marcus

Andrew Wyatt
August 3, 2004, 12:43 AM

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