Receptionist opened my Glock .22 kit at work today!


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Min
August 2, 2004, 05:37 PM
My Glock .22 kit came at work, and the receptionist girl opened the box that was innocently marked (no firearms-related name on the outside). She freaked out!

She told my boss, who called me into his office. He gave the box to me, and then asked me if it was legal to receive such an item. I explained to him that only the frame/receiver required the FFL dealer.

My boss was pretty understanding about it - saying it was just a barrel mainly.

I live in Austin, a very liberal part of Texas. The girl is typical. All guns are evil. :rolleyes:


Anyway, it was more drama than I expected. Why did she open a package that clearly did not have her name on it? :fire:

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atek3
August 2, 2004, 05:52 PM
3 years ago i made the mistake of having ammo shipped to my work. stupid idea. Glock 22 kit to work...stupid idea. legality aside most businesses are dumb and anti-gun. The two mix to provide a powerful incentive not to have gun-related items shipped to work.

atek3

Noban
August 2, 2004, 05:53 PM
Something similar happened to me a few years ago. I was planning a vacation, and had ordered some small gun-related parts from Cabellas. Not wanting the package to linger on my front porch, I gave my work address and told the gun-friendly receptionist to expect the delivery, and no need to open to package.

No problem.......until a black powder rifle that was backordered came in and they shipped it to my office, and the new receptionist opened it. Everyone knows me as a harmless gun enthusiast, so I heard a lot of jokes upon my return, with no one's panties in a bunch.

Min
August 2, 2004, 05:58 PM
It's no big deal, really.

I just would rather keep my politics to myself at work, is all. Oh well, so now people know I'm pro-2nd admendment.

SLCDave
August 2, 2004, 06:03 PM
Did you boss question the receptionist why she was committing the federal offense of "mail tampering"?

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cordex
August 2, 2004, 06:05 PM
Depending on who in my office opened the package, they'd either ignore it and put it on my desk or demand that I take them out to play with it.

Sam Adams
August 2, 2004, 06:15 PM
Since I'm the boss, my receptionist had better not act like this one did (I only have a small office, I'm not some high and mightly exec with 500 or more people under him).

However, I've worked for companies that have a policy of opening all mail that come into their premises, regardless of how it is marked. I detested such a policy, mainly because of privacy issues. It also ticked me off to no end that it was a choice between that kind of treatment or having packages left on my doorstep all day long. Thankfully, there was a bit of a revolt at this particular office by some of the higher ups, so the policy took a dirt nap.

Nonetheless, I think that practicality demands that any gun owner who wishes to have gun-related stuff shipped to them at a place where they are merely an employee had better know what the company's policy is. If it is "open all packages, no matter what," then you've got to think about some other arrangement, esp. in an anti-gun environment.

CWatson
August 2, 2004, 06:17 PM
You should invite both the receptionist and your boss to try it out.

CW

R.H. Lee
August 2, 2004, 06:20 PM
Now you've gone and done it. You'll be the subject of furtive stares and whispered conversations. "Workplace Violence" will be the topic of the next staff meeting. Your desk will be searched for weapons and Prozac prescriptions in your absence. :p

Min
August 2, 2004, 06:23 PM
RileyMC, yep better clear out the desk of all questionable items. :)

Drizzt
August 2, 2004, 07:00 PM
Fortunately where I work, The guard up front opening the packages is a retired Navy Chief, who shoots more than I do.

Amish_Bill
August 2, 2004, 07:08 PM
I had a 7.62x39 upper and drum mag for an AR shipped to work once. (cleared it with my buddy near the top of security first -- big company)

It just so happenned that the day it arrived, the boss was having a problem with some of the other people keeping incoming computers at their desks for inordinate amounts of time. I'm setting there working on my stuff, and he asks all of us, "OK, does anybody else have anything that doesn't belong here?"

Of course, being so completely me, I had to say "Yes" and point ot the boxes. Unwapping everything and then convincing him that an 'evil looking' AR upper was not legally a firearm was an adventure.

:evil:

Hawk
August 2, 2004, 07:46 PM
Stuff delivered to the reception area gets opened unless marked "personal" or "confidential". Stuff delivered to receiving doesn't get opened.

Not a big deal anyway. If reception opens a Bushmaster Dissipater upper, she just puts it on my desk (has, in fact, happened). I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if she had checked for clear and replaced the bolt/carrier assembly before dropping it off.

I love this place.

Beren
August 2, 2004, 08:20 PM
Our local UPS man knows me, and since I live so close to work, ends up covering both locations on his route. He likes to drop off packages for me at work even they're addressed for home. Frankly, most of the time, this is a major convienance for me.

It's going to cause all sorts of havok if I go through with getting my C&R. "Um, Mr. Manager, the UPS guy just accidentally dropped off something that was meant for my home address. I'll be back in 15 minutes."

"Oh yeah? What is it?"

"Something Swiss. Some, ah, Special K."

spacemanspiff
August 2, 2004, 08:35 PM
when we had a real receptionist/front desk filler, all packages that come through regular mail were opened, no matter who they were addressed to.
now that its done by whomever goes to the box to pick up the mail they only open stuff thats from work-related sources. all personal mail is ignored.

i would like to see the look on their face if they did open a package addressed to me that had a Cold Steel dropped tanto recon knife in it. :evil:

Min
August 2, 2004, 08:53 PM
That's a funny cartoon.

ny32182
August 2, 2004, 09:27 PM
This is why I don't have firearm stuff shipped to work...

I'm on good enough terms with my local gun shop owner that he will let me ship stuff there, and come pick it up after work.

Drue
August 2, 2004, 10:50 PM
I have gun stuff delivered to the office all time. Anything with a person's name on it gets delivered unopened. Sometimes heavy packages get delivered without a name. The mail girl has them delivered to me figuring that "it must be more ammo for Drue." Works for me.

Drue

JPL
August 2, 2004, 10:55 PM
I'm not sure, but I think that something coming to a business address is primarily considered to be business mail, even if it's personally address, and as such is subject to being opened by representatitives of the owner.

hso
August 2, 2004, 10:56 PM
We need some more informtion.

Was the package addressed to you or just the business address?

How many people in your office?

Does the receptionist normally open mail and packages and distribute it?

Min
August 2, 2004, 10:58 PM
It had my name on it.

JPL
August 2, 2004, 11:06 PM
Was the package addressed to you AT or C/O (name of business), or just you, and then the address?

Min
August 2, 2004, 11:07 PM
It was my name, on top of the company name (for delivery purposes).

It was a personal package.

Gameface
August 2, 2004, 11:19 PM
UPS, FEDEX or USPS.

SLCDave and his poster are right. You should never have a USPS item with your name on it opened by someone else. Delivered to work or not.

I would have thought the same about all parcels, but so many people are saying that the receptionist opens them that I'm not sure. I never would have thought that someone could open something addressed to me.

Gameface

Min
August 2, 2004, 11:27 PM
It was sent UPS Ground.

I have ordered books from Amazon and had it delivered to work before, and she never opened those.

TechBrute
August 2, 2004, 11:33 PM
My company opens all packages and letters. They also occasionally open outgoing mail. It is a loss prevention issue. I'm not sure what the legality of the incoming mail is, but the outgoing mail is not part of the USPS system at that point.

I have, at some points, had mail delivered to work. The last time was a gift from my parents to my wife and I wanted to surprise her with it so I didn't have it sent to the house. If I tell the receptionist that I'm expecting it, it comes straight to my desk, conveniently opened for me. If you're concerned with privacy, why send it to your work?

I sent a rifle back to Remington from our mailroom. Aside from the fact that everyone had to see it and ogle, it was no big deal. All our employees go through background checks. While not perfect, it gives me some indication that it will be ok.

If I'm concerned with privacy, I send it to the house. For convenience, it comes to work. The two do not go together in my company.

twoblink
August 2, 2004, 11:39 PM
It's a great conversation piece at least..

"So, you a 9mm type of girl, or a .45?"

"You like my glock, or you like 1911's?"

:rolleyes:

Stupidity is not copyrighted..

Min
August 2, 2004, 11:48 PM
It's really no big deal.

So, they know I own a Glock now. At least, it's not a Bryco.





Plus, I'm getting the girl fired tomorrow.

Gameface
August 3, 2004, 01:07 AM
If a package has USPS postage on it and an address then it is not legal for ANYONE to open it unless they are on the "to" portion of the address. This goes for the wife at home or the receptionist at work. All US mail is confidential.

Gameface

Don Gwinn
August 3, 2004, 02:59 AM
Hey, Beren, I wouldn't tell my boss I was getting shipments of "Special K" at work!

I don't make jokes about getting packages of heroin, either. ;)

Wildalaska
August 3, 2004, 03:15 AM
I get guns aoll the time at work and no one cares

WildselectfireonestooAlaska

rayra
August 3, 2004, 04:44 AM
Anyone caught in the double-bind of packages lingering on their porch / delivered-lost to neighbors apartment and an unfriendly workplace should consider a private-company P.O. Box near their work.

Strict-adherence to the postal law, and corporate policies are an issue I dont care to play Don Quixote about.

Majic
August 3, 2004, 07:00 AM
I always had personal items shipped to my home address because it was meant for the home. Business items came to the job.

0luke1
August 3, 2004, 07:07 AM
One of the guys I shoot high power with has his secretary work his Dillon to load 223 when it's slow. (He owns his own business).

Ransom
August 3, 2004, 08:31 AM
I get books and DVDs shipped to my work simply because we have a front desk and it will always be recieved and signed for and I dont have to fight lines and crap as UPS/USPS. But I'd never order gun related things. I wont even have grips or a holster sent there.

Byron Quick
August 3, 2004, 09:55 AM
Tell me something: None of you people have friends or relatives who are usually at home during the day? Just curious, really. I trust several people to receive such shipments for me who are usually at home.

Ukraine Train
August 3, 2004, 10:02 AM
My company has a big stink if you get anything personal shipped here. My boss got reamed out once because he had a gift for his wife shipped here so she wouldn't know about it. They claim it wastes time because the mail room spends time processing the package.

71Commander
August 3, 2004, 10:15 AM
I work in the receiving dept. at a large company and it is policy to open all incoming packages. I have to pull the packing slip and check it with the material. This is how the material gets paid for.

No personal incoming mail.

Bravo11
August 3, 2004, 10:25 AM
What is the deal with companies having the receptionist open all the mail.
They used to do it here. Letters, junk mail, and packages. It has stopped in the past year or two, no one said why they stopped. I never did understand the reasoning behind opening all the mail.

halvey
August 3, 2004, 10:49 AM
My company opens EVERYTHING. But I work for one of those big evil corporations that employ thousands of people.

Amish_Bill
August 3, 2004, 11:12 AM
Mine doesn't bother opening most things. They DO x-ray them though....

Zundfolge
August 3, 2004, 01:17 PM
Reason #33498 I'm glad I work for a small company (only about 10 employees here ... including the owner). If I never work for a large company again I'll die happy.

The guy who works the front counter here is a big gun nut too ... but everyone here knows we're gun nuts and nobody cares (hell ... boss knows I carry and he's okay with it).

My previous job was at a mid size company (a little over 600 employees) and I had gun stuff shipped there (hell, I took off at lunch one day to pick up a pistol at my FFL and brought it back to the office to sit in my drawer for the rest of the day). However they have been bought out by a bigger company (who shrank them down to about 25 employees ... my job was safe but I just couldn't stand the new ownership so I left) and I'd never consider having gun stuff shipped there if I stayed now.

honestly, some of the intrusions into your personal life you have to put up with to work at large companies just drives me nuts.

ckyllo
August 3, 2004, 09:15 PM
I work in a recieving area and we open everything, pull pack slip, record the tracking number and scan slip into computer with a reciept and have it signed on delivery. It saves BIG on the calls you signed for a box 3 months ago where is it? I can say where it went, who signed for it, and if they are not the person who got it I can print out the pack slip and show them why it went where it did. oh yeah we are to inspect the packages for letter bombs / anthrax before opening them they would hate to have one of us get blown up. so it would be not the greatest idea for me to have somthing delivered to work.

Poodleshooter
August 3, 2004, 09:30 PM
Partial list of things I've received at my workplace so far:
CMP Garand
8# keg of powder
reloading gear
cases of ammo
blackpowder rifle barrel

People here only open things with their names on them. I get called to the dock for my stuff,which then goes right to the car. Not that it matters anyway. I helped a co-worker clean his grandfather's shotgun over lunch one day...on the floor of the loading dock. :D
Packages that went to my old residence sat outside my door (not good).

Min
August 3, 2004, 10:12 PM
I told the receptionist today another package was coming - she should expect it any day now.

Oh great, she said. (She's just a college student working during the summer).



I didn't tell her it was a spare mag for the Glock kit. :D

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