Weakside BUG?


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Skunkabilly
February 17, 2003, 02:47 PM
What do you guys carry as a weakside BUG?

Not sure if I need a Berertta .380 in the Skunkabilly Armory.

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C. H. Luke
February 17, 2003, 03:07 PM
In Winter often CCW a Glock 26 in Lou Alessi's
pocket holster in the outside pkt. of my
parka. Don't see the need for a BUG myself &
believe Chuck Taylor's opinion on the legal
issue of CCWing two pistols.

Fed168
February 17, 2003, 03:51 PM
My BUG is on the weak side in a pocket rig. It more or less balances everything else out, and is easier to access when I need it.

El Tejon
February 17, 2003, 04:23 PM
Si! Portside carry of Kahr P9 behind mags for primary pistol. I can access it with either hand. No one can guarantee you both hands in a fight.

10-Ring
February 17, 2003, 05:03 PM
I've got 2 that I rotate...one is a 25 cal Beretta Jetfire. THe other is a older mod 60. I've been contemplating getting a 640 tho and putting that 60 in semi-retirement.

Schuey2002
February 17, 2003, 05:14 PM
Nothing at the moment..:)

LWCmdr45
February 17, 2003, 05:33 PM
I know they're not as popular, but I prefer to carry my M640-1 BUG in an ankle rig. It allows access by either hand, even when I'm strapped in by a seat belt or if I'm floundering on my back on the ground. If I'm standing and my right (primary) arm is occupied, but my left arm is free, I can draw my belt-holstered .45 by reaching around behind my back. (Takes some practice, but it's worth the time, IMO.)

Steve

tlhelmer
February 17, 2003, 06:04 PM
Glock 27 in an Alessi ankle holster.

Marko Kloos
February 17, 2003, 07:29 PM
Kel-Tec P32 in a pocket holster, weak-side front pocket.

Betty
February 17, 2003, 08:12 PM
NAA Mini .22 Mag in the extra mag pouch in my bellyband, 11 o'clock.

popeye
February 17, 2003, 08:46 PM
Skunk......I've got a Beretta 84 and a Browning BDA (both basically same gun...13 round .380's) Both are too large by todays standards, and avail. of smaller 9mm's to be pocket guns. Unless you live in a war zone or are in Law enforcement I don't see the need for a second gun. I carry a Colt Det. Spec. or mod. 42 S&W when I feel the need to be armed. Kel-Tec's gonna release a .380 approx the size of their .32. I'd wait to see that if you want a pocket .380.

Tamara
February 17, 2003, 10:34 PM
Model 38 nickel Bodyguard Airweight.

Strongside BUG is a Beretta Jetfire.

(I love winter coat/jacket season. :D )

mgjohn
February 17, 2003, 10:48 PM
In the shop a S&W 442 in LH pants pocket. Out of the shop when wearing a jacket a Colt Combat Target at the small of the back.

triggertime
February 17, 2003, 10:54 PM
638 Bodyguard

agony
February 17, 2003, 11:38 PM
My BUG is a P32 in the strongside pocket.

I carry a folding knife on the weak side.

Gordon
February 18, 2003, 02:00 AM
I bought a left hand draw Galco holster for Colt det spec(and agent or cobra) to attach to off side of my Miami classic or Original jackass harness instead of ammo pocket or clip pouch. This gives me a 'New york reload' for primary gun.

Navy joe
February 18, 2003, 02:21 AM
Would you believe 5" 1911A1? That's what it was today. 3 guns, another vote for winter coat season and Coronado leather. Normally something sensible like a Kahr MK40 on ankle or somewhere at the waist where both hands can reach it. When you produce both a 1911 and a Glock 17 in the holster store you get all kinds of wierd looks. :D

sm
February 18, 2003, 02:24 AM
Primary: Full size 1911
BUG: Keltec P-11

Primary being a P-11, another P-11, sometimes a J frame.

Now I did use my gunsmith's Pro Carry as a BUG with a full size 1911 the other day...getting downright attached to it, haven't returned it...YET :D Giving serious thought to using nothing but 45 ACP for everything...making the P-11 as deep concealment...

Matt G
February 18, 2003, 03:22 AM
re1973: You've been reading my mail!

I also carry a P-11 off-side (under my shirt) in addition to my main-battery 1911. If it's not the P-11, it's the Chief's Special (J-Frame). Great minds, no? :)

Kentucky Rifle
February 18, 2003, 11:17 AM
RJ Hedley made me one of his wonderful
"Back Pocket" models for my Seecamp. A perfect, right hand back pocket draw. The "Hedley" stays in my pocket every time I draw. "Want my wallet too? BANG!"
Little Seecamp loaded up with .32ACP RBCD ammunition. (1815 FPS/271 FtLbs at the muzzle.)
However there is always a S&W 331 in a Galco Ankle Glove on my left leg in case I get knocked down. Man! I'm a limping arsenal!

KR*

Erik
February 18, 2003, 11:24 AM
In instances where I carry a BUG:

Kahr MK40 in an Alessi Ankle rig.

It is there when I need it, reasonably accessable for the intended use subsequent to primary gun failure.

For close in, I'll transition to one of my knives in cases where my strong arm might be tied up with a aggressor.

TheFrontRange
February 18, 2003, 06:05 PM
believe Chuck Taylor's opinion on the legal

...I'm just wondering, what is Chuck Taylor's opinion on this?

I don't currently have a BUG but am going shopping soon for one, probably on the order of a .38 Special snubby by either Taurus or Rossi or a solid used S&W if possible.

El Tejon
February 18, 2003, 06:19 PM
I'm with TheFrontRange. Uncle Chuck didn't say anything about my bug in the class I took last September from him?:confused: However, come to think of it, the subject did not come up.:confused:

10-Ring
February 18, 2003, 10:43 PM
Hey, how about a Beretta 92 compact type M? You're gonna have to buy mags anyway, why not get something that fits in an existing theme???? :evil: :cool: :D

2xTap
February 18, 2003, 10:56 PM
When weather permits the proper attire, I do carry a BUG, and have two that I switch between.

Taurus M85 UL Ti in .38 Special.
Bersa Series 95 in .380.

Either are usually carried in a jacket pocket.

2xTap

sm
February 19, 2003, 03:36 AM
There are those that would dispute me having a great mind, thanks for the compliment.

One thing that some don't consider about a BUG, is that another person may need to use. I've found that the P-11 and a revo are easy MOA for anyone to use.

Experience: many years ago (before TSA and cellphones) My flight did not get in till 2:00 a.m. . My Gunsmith picked me up in the wee hours, airport is not in a good area, halfway home we hit something on the freeway...flat tire. Some very shady characters stopped...sure felt good to have both of armed against 3 of them. They scattered when a trooper showed up...he called in their license plate, assisted us...the 'gentlemen' were driving a stolen vehicle we later learned.

Kor
February 19, 2003, 01:14 PM
...according to Guns & Ammo's Firearms for Law Enforcement Annual 2002(or 2001, I don't have it in front of me) is a bit mixed. For uniformed, plainclothes or off-duty LEOs, he strongly favors a BUG. However, for armed citizens with or without CCW, he feels that the extra physical and financial burden of a BUG is not justified, in that an armed citizen will only draw their primary gun in extremis, and it would be highly unlikely that a typical self-defense scenarion would require so much as a reload, let alone a transition to BUG. Furthermore, he feels that carrying a BUG may open the armed citizen to enhanced legal liabilities in that a prosecutor may interpret the BUG as a "drop gun," or evidence of aggressive intent, or possibly even as evidence of premeditation should you actually kill an assailant.

Personally, I disagree with Chuck Taylor on this point, and feel somewhat patronized, belittled and disappointed by his rationale.

I always carry a weak-side BUG in addition to my primary, and I feel that it provides a level of flexibility, tactical options and redundant capability that a primary gun cannot provide by itself. For example, if a potential assailant is keyed in on your right hand, or if said hand is otherwise occupied, the BUG in your left hand in your left trouser/jacket pocket will give him a nasty surprise...

BTW, my BUG is either a S&W 642(if my pocket is big enough), or a BJT DA38 derringer(when the pocket is too small for the 642).

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