I wonder about this...


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oneslowgun
August 6, 2004, 04:13 AM
I don't like what I read, but would like more info...

http://www.wkbw.com/morenews/morenews.asp#11

I hope this isn't a duplicate.

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wasrjoe
August 6, 2004, 04:37 AM
Here's what it says:

Jamestown Police confiscate 500 to 1,000 guns
August 5, 2004
In Jamestown, police say one resident had enough firepower in his house, to equip a small army.

Officers confiscated somewhere between five hundred and a thousand guns from the home of 63-year-old Thad Schank. He faces a weapons possession charge. Police also say one of Schank's weapons was stolen a couple months ago, which means it's somewhere out on the streets. When police realized just how many guns Schank had, they decided to get them out of his home, so that no more guns would end up in the hands of criminals.

When police realized just how many guns Schank had, they decided to get them out of his home, so that no more guns would end up in the hands of criminals.

How charitable.

jetta
August 6, 2004, 05:00 AM
This report is amateur because it's lack of vitally relevant information is glaring by it's absence.
It therefore gives grave cause for concern as to wether this man's legitimate private property has been unilateraly confiscated, or an illegaly held collection of firearms was lawfully removed? .......eh....which is it? Are police acting well according to the law or are they creating law as they see fit? Questions that should have been central to the journalists (used advisedly) reporting. I would also like to know if a "Reality TV" crew were "invited" to the bust!

Preacherman
August 6, 2004, 06:12 AM
I note that this took place in New York State. Isn't a firearms owner supposed to have registered each of his/her firearms with law enforcement authorities in that state? I can only assume that Mr. Schank had all these guns and had not registered them - which would make it an offence under NY State law.

Would any NY State residents please confirm the legal issues?

ctdonath
August 6, 2004, 01:18 PM
In NY state, there is no licensing for long guns. Handguns are individually licensed.

(NY City is a completely different legal entity. Don't confuse NYS with NYC, beyond the latter annexing the votes & revenue of the former.)

Sindawe
August 6, 2004, 01:42 PM
Yea, the report posted on that news site is lacking a bunch of info. Bummer.

If the seizure of the weapons was based on some OTHER illegal activity, then the police may have acted properly. If, on the other hand, the firearms were seized simply because he had them, and a large number of them, then that is just a bunch of frelling bovine excrament.


Yes, I wonder about this as well....

geekWithA.45
August 6, 2004, 02:03 PM
I don't honestly know if you can call it a "trend", but over the last several years, I've noticed an increasing frequency of events like this, where folks, typically older, come into contact with the authorities for one reason or another, most of them innocuous. In the process, the authorities become aware of a large (even by our standards) number of guns, usually lawful.

In short order, the owner is separated from his guns, under a variety of pretexts.

If I were evil, and working for the forces of organized gun bigotry, this is the sort of thing that would go into my playbook under the chapter "reducing the number of guns on the streets".

TallPine
August 6, 2004, 02:30 PM
Don't keep all your eggs in one basket, folks.

;)

Penforhire
August 6, 2004, 06:19 PM
Maybe he didn't. :)

madcowburger
August 6, 2004, 07:26 PM
Last I heard, there was no legal limit on the *number* of guns one could legally own.

At one time I owned 20 or 21 guns, and some people just *knew* that was wrong and *had* to be against some law or other.

Nowadays I keep my guns the heck out of sight of anyone who must come in here (and they are as few as possible), and I don't mention anything about them.

One has to assume that practically everyone is a snitch or TIPster now. Some states are *training* exterminators, cable installers, apartment managers, and pizza deliverers to spy on and inform on people for anything that seems "suspicious."

You can bet that owning several guns, or even *a* gun, is "suspicious" to these people. Anyone owning ten or more guns *must* be some kind of terrorist as far as they're concerned. Probably having copies of "Guns & Ammo" magazine lying around in plain sight is "suspicious" to them.

Keep your guns out of sight. Say nothing about them to anyone you don't know *very* well. Admit as few people as possible into your home. In particular, never invite any *police* into your home, even if you *think* they're your friends. Never let them "persuade" you to "consent" to let them enter or search your house, at least not without a valid warrant, and maybe not then, if you can help it. I'm not saying resist, except maybe *passively* resist by just not answering the door, having a door that's *very* hard to break in, windows that are hard to peep in, etc.

MCB

ctdonath
August 6, 2004, 08:12 PM
Some NY counties DO have a limit on the number of firearms (= handguns), but they would know when you applied to add one to your permit without having to look in your house. No limits on long gun quantities, however.

Unless you are transporting them. Hauling more than 20 at a time is a no-no.

Michigander
August 6, 2004, 08:50 PM
(Jamestown, NY, August 4, 2004) - - Police in the southern tier have charged a man for keeping a potentially dangerous cache of weapons in his home.

In June, Officers seized between 500 and 1,000 guns from 63 year old Thad Schank's home on Thayer Street in Jamestown. Someone allegedly broke into his home and stole a pistol.

While investigating the theft, Police came across the other guns and found out Schank didn't have proper permits for them.


from : http://www.wivb.com/Global/story.asp?S=2131171&nav=0RapPWBB

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