CT Town Disturbed by Firearms Shop


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Drizzt
February 17, 2003, 06:13 PM
Machine guns in New Milford


By:Asa Fitch February 14, 2003

Located in the tiny back room of a brown cottage on Route 7, next to a restaurant, an art restoration studio and an antiques store, D&T Arms appears to be a little out of place.

Several residents have recently voiced reservations about the new store's sign, which advertises everything it sells.

"You've got a country inn, high-end pottery, a nice landscaping store across the street, an antiques shop, and then all of the sudden you've got 'Pulp Fiction,'" Ed Vidal, whose framing and restoration studio is in the same building as D&T, said, making reference to the film that shocked many with its graphic depiction of violence.

"It disturbed me, but to each their own," Mr. Vidal said.
Though some are surprised to hear it, everything D&T sells, including the Ruger AC-556 rifle and the MAC-style semiautomatics, is legal. And the owners, along with gun advocates, insist that the weapons are safe.

"People collect them, and they're fun to shoot," said Tom Whitcomb, 44 a Gulf War veteran who runs the store with his partner, Dom Spano. "The people who are shooting these things tend to know what they're doing."

Mr. Whitcomb and Mr. Spano opened D&T about three months ago, but put up their sign just two weeks ago. Both men are members of a private gun club in Simsbury, where they participate in shooting competitions with automatic weapons.
"Incidents of machine guns being used in crime is miniscule, except for people who don't like guns, don't understand them, and don't understand the people who like them," said Bob Crook, executive director of the Coalition of Connecticut Sportsmen, which is based in Hartford "I would suggest that there has never been an incident of a child getting ahold of a machine gun. And to my knowledge there has never been an accidental death by these guns."

Mr. Whitcomb said heavy government regulation, combined with the expense of the guns-the least expensive is about $1,500-prevents the most dangerous weapons from getting into the hands of criminals. Gun owners lock the valuable guns in heavy safes, he said, adding that D&T was guarded "like Fort Knox," with bars over the windows and an extensive alarm system.
According to Mr. Whitcomb, only about 10 government-registered semiautomatic and automatic weapons have been involved in murders since 1934, when the federal government started monitoring the guns in response to organized crime violence in Chicago.

"To get a submachine gun it takes usually a minimum of about two months and as much as eight months," he said. "The feds approve each sale."

Not all assault weapons are legal. In Connecticut, state statutes contain a list of about 70 weapons that cannot be sold, including Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 types, Colt AR-15s, Street Sweeper and Striker 12 revolving cylinder shotguns, and UZI Carbines.
To obtain one of the semiautomatic or automatic guns not on that list, a buyer must pass through several filters at local, state and federal levels, and pay a $200 transfer tax. The process can take months, and any felony, domestic abuse misdemeanor, mental illness, dishonorable discharge, or a battery of other conditions, can exclude a buyer from owning the gun.

Nevertheless, gun control advocates say the weapons remain a danger, arguing that the guns could be stolen by criminals or become fatal playthings for curious children. Further, they say, automatic weapons aren't very accurate and hence not good for target-shooting. The risk to society, they say, outweighs any benefit for an individual.

One Connecticut group, the Connecticut Collaborative for Education Against Gun Violence, doesn't advocate an outright ban on automatic assault weapons. Instead, according to co-executive director Lisa Labella, the group wants to abolish the list of illegal guns and put in its place a more generic classification of what's illegal. The danger of enumerating specific models, she said, lies in the possibility that manufacturers or individuals could modify illegal guns and call them by a different name, skirting a ban.

But the controversy in New Milford is less centered on the legality of the weapons than on the advertisement of "machine guns" and "silencers" on the sign outside the store. Some consider the phrases unsettling, if not offensive.

"It's not something you expect to see, and so, even though it might be legal, it's a little upsetting to see someone advertising machine guns in the neighborhood where you live, because they have a connotation other than hunting," Town Council member Robert Guendelsberger said.

According to zoning department officials, the town can regulate the size, position, and height of a sign, but usually cannot regulate wording, especially when it refers to items the store legally sells.

"All we can regulate is where the sign is, or we can say if it's too big or too small," said Zoning Commission member Charles Raymond. "I'm flabbergasted that it's legal. But I don't know, stranger things have happened."

According to Chris Matthews, the landlord who rents the space to Mr. Whitcomb and Mr. Spano, the two are longtime residents he has known for years. If they were strangers, he said, he wouldn't have rented the space to them.

"I'm not a big fan of guns, but I'm not going to tell them what to put on their sign," Mr. Matthews said. "I'm not thrilled about it, but as long as it's legal-hey, what are you gonna do? [Mr. Spano and Mr. Whitcomb] are decent people."

Mr. Whitcomb said he may change the sign if it causes a public outcry. But he noted he has the constitutional right to possess and sell the guns, and, therefore, the advertisement is a simple exercise of free speech.

"There was a guy who called me the day after we put the sign up and told me he had no objection to what we were selling, but he said, 'I just find the words to be offensive,'" Mr. Whitcomb said. "I can understand their concerns. But if Carvel's can advertise ice cream, we can advertise as well. But it's not cast in stone. If we get a lot of flak we would consider changing it."

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Mike Irwin
February 17, 2003, 07:35 PM
What the hell is a Ruger AC-556?

Preacherman
February 17, 2003, 07:43 PM
Ruger AC556 = full-auto version of the Mini-14.

Fly320s
February 17, 2003, 07:43 PM
What the hell is a Ruger AC-556?

I think it's the select fire version of the Mini-14.

Quartus
February 17, 2003, 08:05 PM
select fire version of the Mini-14


Lovely. Those things can't hold together under rapid semi-auto fire. Full auto ought to be a sight to see! :rolleyes:

Airwolf
February 17, 2003, 08:17 PM
Nevertheless, gun control advocates say the weapons remain a danger, arguing that the guns could be stolen by criminals or become fatal playthings for curious children. Further, they say, automatic weapons aren't very accurate and hence not good for target-shooting. The risk to society, they say, outweighs any benefit for an individual.

First of all criminals will steal what is easy to get and breaking into a secure building with an alarm isn't number one on the list. They'll just go to your house since you obviously have no means of self-defense.

Second "fatal playthings"? Oh please! :barf: Parental responsibility is the key, but you don't want to go anywhere near that topic, do you?

Lastly "The risk to society, they say, outweighs any benefit for an individual." Thank you oh so very much for taking the time to butt your fat nose into my life and control everything I may do (or think about doing) for the greater good of society. I'm sure that you are a perfect judge of all things human and are, no doubt, in the best position to determine how everyone should live their life in the utopian society that you have created in your head.

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

standingbear
February 17, 2003, 08:46 PM
automatic weaons not accurate and not good for target shooting?apparantly theyve never been to knob creek.

Standing Wolf
February 17, 2003, 09:11 PM
"It's not something you expect to see, and so, even though it might be legal, it's a little upsetting to see someone advertising machine guns in the neighborhood where you live, because they have a connotation other than hunting," Town Council member Robert Guendelsberger said.

Well, heaven forbid a leftist should ever see anything he doesn't expect to see!

cuchulainn
February 17, 2003, 10:03 PM
Several residents have recently voiced reservations about the new store's sign, which advertises everything it sells.

The story reads like no one voiced reservations until reporter Asa Fitch walked by the sign and said, "Hey, I bet if I ask enough people, 'Does the sign bother you?' then I can fill 20 inches of copy licketysplit."

Bartholomew Roberts
February 17, 2003, 10:08 PM
I think it is kind of disturbing how they continually confuse semi-automatic and automatic weapons throughout the story. How many people are going to read that and equate semi-auto with machinegun?

Apple a Day
February 17, 2003, 10:25 PM
... next to a restaurant, an art restoration studio and an antiques store, D&T Arms...
Now, which one would you typically walk into first? Depending on the time of day I'd either choose the restaurant or the gun store. :evil:

citizen
February 18, 2003, 06:20 AM
New Milford was a sleepy little town of about 40,000 when I first moved there about 25 yrs ago. SO sleepy, I moved down the road about a year later to a town of about 75,000; including a state College.
MANY small, private boys and girls schools in the surrounding area; also MANY NYLiberal and Hollywood Second Homes. Area has become INFECTED with Political Correctness; including my relatives (one of whom is an elected state official). Add in thepresence of a regional Fed. Corr. Institution in the next town, which is classified as Min. Sec. (maybe Med. now?); and you can see how paranoid everyone NOW is in this tiny 50 mi. X100 mi. state about their image. Also spawned Lieberman and a few other "Beltway" stars I can't remember right now.....:barf:

No wonder I'm glad to be outta there.....:neener:

Augustwest
February 18, 2003, 10:46 AM
I live in the area, and got a great big grin the first time I saw D&T's sign. I stopped by, but they're only open a couple of eveings a week and Saturdays. Hope to get there soon when they're open.

Citizen- where'd you live in New Milford? I've been in the northern part of town most of my life.

TheOtherOne
February 18, 2003, 11:22 AM
"I'm flabbergasted that it's legal. But I don't know, stranger things have happened."Guns? Legal in the United States? At this rate, hardly anymore. Yes, stranger things have happened.

citizen
February 18, 2003, 03:41 PM
Augustwest-

Back then, I resided in an apt. complex about 1 mi. south of Hayes Chev-buick on rte. 7. MANY discrete firearms owners then; always someplace to shoot. No gunstores there, then; only 1 part-time shop above NM on rte 7; IIRC. Was frequent evening visitor at "Doc Shepard's" in Bethel on rte. 6. in later years.

Skunkabilly
February 18, 2003, 03:49 PM
I'm disturbed by gun shops. It's economic oppression, I say! :)

Augustwest
February 19, 2003, 01:58 PM
Citizen-

We've got 3 shops now, including this new one. One has a pistol range attached, which is good - there isn't much of anywhere to shoot outdoors these days because most of the farm and forest land has houses on it now.

The Jolly Roger might have been around on Rte 202 back then - John Roger sold guns to my dad when he was younger. He's still open a couple of days a week.

If my family weren't in the area, I'd be long gone.

pax
February 19, 2003, 03:11 PM
This article reminded me of the opening scene of A.E. van Vogt's classic The Weapons Shop of Isher.

Funny, in a sad sort of way.

pax

Drjones
February 19, 2003, 03:56 PM
If they REALLY are concerned about "safety" (which they clearly aren't, but we all know that) then they should ban police officers (as well as the rest of the govt.) from owning and/or using automatic weapons, because the ONLY three crimes committed with LEGALLY-OWNED automatic weapons since 1934 were ALL committed by LEO's.

But that makes too much sense....

AmericanFreeBird
February 19, 2003, 04:16 PM
I work just down the street from this place in Brookfield. This is too cool, a machinegun store within driving distance! :D

I gotta go compliment this guy on his sign! :evil:

Oh, yeah, lets not forget though, CT is the home of Senator Chris Dodd whos daddy gave us the :cuss: gun control act of '68. Seems he took a queue from ole Adolph Hitler himself having been intimately aquianted with Nazi gun control laws from Nuremburg.

CT is going through the battle between the pro-rights and pro-control freaks. Not sure who's gonna win but if it turns ugly I'm movin' out.

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