Chirac blasts eastern Europeans over pro-American stance, warns on EU membership


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Airwolf
February 17, 2003, 08:00 PM
I swear if France can come up with a better way of ticking off more people, I'm at a loss to figure out what it could be.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=524&u=/ap/20030217/ap_wo_en_po/eu_ge

Chirac blasts eastern Europeans over pro-American stance, warns on EU membership

By PAUL AMES, Associated Press Writer

BRUSSELS, Belgium - French President Jacques Chirac launched a withering attack Monday on eastern European nations who signed letters backing the U.S. position on Iraq, warning it could jeopardize their chances of joining the European Union (news - web sites).

"It is not really responsible behavior," he told a news conference. "It is not well brought up behavior. They missed a good opportunity to keep quiet."

Chirac was angered when EU candidates Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic joined pro-U.S. EU members such as Britain, Spain and Italy last month in a letter supporting Washington's line on Iraq against the more dovish stance of France and Germany.

Paris was further upset when 10 other eastern European nations signed a similar letter a few days later.

France argued that the moves aggravated splits in the 15-nation EU and backed the ideas put forward by U.S. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld who had earlier spoke of France and Germany as "old Europe" in contrast to the easterners seeking to join the EU and NATO (news - web sites).

"Concerning the candidate countries, honestly I felt they acted frivolously because entry into the European Union implies a minimum of understanding for the others," Chirac told reporters after an emergency EU summit on Iraq.

He warned the candidates the position could be "dangerous" because the parliaments of the 15 EU nations still have to ratify last December's decision for 10 new members to join the bloc on May 1, 2004.

Chirac particularly warned Romania and Bulgaria, who are still negotiating to enter the bloc in 2007.

"Romania and Bulgaria were particularly irresponsible to (sign the letter) when their position is really delicate," Chirac said. "If they wanted to diminish their chances of joining Europe they could not have found a better way."

Britain, Spain and other EU nations had suggested the candidate nations attend Monday's emergency summit on Iraq, but France and Germany opposed the idea.

Although Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar and British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) were the driving forces behind the letter backing America and EU members Italy, Denmark and Portugal also signed up, Chirac saved his wrath for the candidates.

"When you're in the family you have more rights than when you're knocking on the door," he said.

Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Cyprus and Malta are set to join in May 2004. Lagging behind economically, Romania and Bulgaria were told to wait three more years.

Instead of attending the EU summit, the candidates are due to travel to Brussels Tuesday for a briefing on its outcome by Greece, which currently holds the EU presidency.

Greek Prime Minister Costas Simitis denied they had been excluded from the summit because of their backing for Washington, insisting rules require the treaties be signed first.

"We will not discuss pro-American or anti-American positions," Simitis told a news conference. "The candidate countries will be members" soon, and "we have to proceed together."

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cookhj
February 17, 2003, 08:06 PM
uh, since when did france have ultimate control over the EU and who can join?

cuchulainn
February 17, 2003, 08:49 PM
Fifteen years ago, would you ever have thought you'd see a Western European country "blast" Eastern European countries for the sin of being "pro-American"?

jmbg29
February 17, 2003, 08:53 PM
Maybe the French could start their own organization. The P.U.

ahadams
February 17, 2003, 08:55 PM
ah yes the French intend to insist that despite their actual place in things, at least *somebody* has to treat them like they're still important. wait a minute, scratch the word 'still' from that last sentence...

Airwolf
February 17, 2003, 08:58 PM
I've got the "PU's" mascot for them:

http://flymeaway.net/images/lepu.gif

gburner
February 17, 2003, 09:31 PM
Are Jacques Chirac and Kim Jong Il ingesting the same hallucinogen????

Zander
February 17, 2003, 09:39 PM
Maybe the French could start their own organization. The P.U.LOL!

The cheese-eating surrender monkeys fancy themselves in control of the EU [whatever that is on any given day].

Reality has a way of intruding, however...;)

Tamara
February 17, 2003, 10:55 PM
It is not well brought up behavior.

Jeez, Jacques, an old aphorism about pots and kettles is springing to mind for some reason...

I suppose issuing thinly veiled threats and insults to people for disagreeing with you is "well brought up behavior"? Where'd you learn that? BizarroEmilyPost?

BenW
February 17, 2003, 11:00 PM
They missed a good opportunity to keep quiet."
So did he.:rolleyes:

Zundfolge
February 17, 2003, 11:26 PM
warning it could jeopardize their chances of joining the European Union

Hmm ... so if France doesn't like you and you can't become a serf in the EU this is a bad thing :confused:

Stephen Ewing
February 17, 2003, 11:32 PM
As best I can tell, Chirac's plan is either:

A) Destroy the UN, NATO, and EU, or
B) Make me laugh until I pass out, or
C) All of the above.

Mind you, I'll miss NATO, funny little bullets and all.

Steve

ahadams
February 17, 2003, 11:32 PM
No, wait a minute! GBurner may be on to something! Is there any way we could get the NKs and the Frogs to argue with each other and leave the rest of us alone?

hmm...

NIGHTWATCH
February 18, 2003, 12:09 AM
:barf:

CZ-75
February 18, 2003, 12:19 AM
Bully.


Eastern Euro countries know all too well about oppression and what happened the last time a tyrant was allowed to have his way -- many were on the receiving end.


Le Pen doesn't sound like any more of a thug than Chirac.

Waitone
February 18, 2003, 09:45 AM
9% of the population of France is Islamic

France has a history of abeting Islamci movements. The current regime in Iran was incubated in France.

Chirac is ethically challenged. I read an article that said the only way he could keep away from law enforcement was to run for office (sounds familar?).

There was a report on FoxNews saying US intelligence was briefing capitol hill on intelligence that Chirac was receiving cash payments from Sadaam.

France's state owned oil company is the sole contractor in building an Iraqi oil field. Oil field is estimated to contain 30 billion barrels of oil. Total take for the French is estimated to be $50 billion to the state of France.

France is the leading technology source for nuclear energy. France has one of the highest percentages if not the highest of energy supplied by nuclear power. The only area where the US surpasses France is in small, portable nuclear reactors.

France is known to be a supplier of nuclear components to Iraq.

France's only claim to power in the world is its temporary position on the UN security counsel. France is vying with Germany for control of the European Union.

The French are dirty when it comes to WMD. How dirty remains to be seen. It has to be bad because France is willing o pull down the UN and Nato to keep the US out of Iraq. I suspect there will a serious thought in Washington after the war to adding another country to the list of the axis of evil.

Dad-Gummit
February 18, 2003, 10:01 AM
Maybe we should give Poland, Hungary, and CZ the contracts that were destined for the French. It would be wonderfull if W created a trade-free zone with those countries. That way those former commies could experience true capitalism instead of the same ol socialism that they've already experienced. Then we can see how important the EU is. I've already banned French products, and since I do carry a FEG PA-63 I support Hungary. I guess I need to buy a CZ, and maybe we can import some more of the Polish Makarovs. It is amazing how the "New Europe" is already more important than "old Europe".

2dogs
February 18, 2003, 02:09 PM
"It is not really responsible behavior," he told a news conference. "It is not well brought up behavior. They missed a good opportunity to keep quiet."

If this arrogant putz doesn't epitomize what is dislikeable about the French then nothing does.:rolleyes:

ZekeLuvs1911
February 18, 2003, 04:04 PM
It is funny how France thinks that they have the right to voice their opinion but no one else does. Do as I say but not as I do?

Airwolf
February 18, 2003, 09:08 PM
I second the idea of some sort of reward for the central and eastern European nations that have stood with us.

Not only would it be good business and help those countries along with free market economies and raise their standard of living it would also :cuss: off france until they couldn’t see straight.

A Win-Win situation in my book.

:evil:

Mike Irwin
February 18, 2003, 09:50 PM
"because entry into the European Union implies a minimum of understanding for the others"

Funny, you'd think that Chirac would understand that that cuts both ways.

Stephen Ewing
February 18, 2003, 09:56 PM
Support our friends? Check. Bought a Romanian gun Saturday, a Czech gun Monday.

Boycotting the French, on purpose at least, remains hard.

Steve

hksw
February 18, 2003, 10:24 PM
I like this one better :

http://www.iht.com/articles/87142.html

In particular Latvian President Vaira Vike-Freiberga's comments.

Hutch
February 19, 2003, 04:18 PM
/Curlie voice "Da noive o' dat guy" -/Curlie voice

If that doesn't perfectly define arrogance, then the word has no meaning. One day, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of [their] lives, they are going to rue the day they P.O.'d the Allies. I guess, with the Germans and Russians in bed with them, they feel sufficiently free from external threat to thumb their genrously proportioned Gallic noses at us. SO BE IT. I will not forget, and I will not permit my children to forget, this episode. What goes around, comes around.

Russ
February 19, 2003, 04:25 PM
I think they are afraid that when we go in there we will find that France and the Germans have been breaking the sanctions all along and have been selling Iraq means to further their chemical and nuclear weapons program.

Blackhawk
February 19, 2003, 04:39 PM
The French need a vote of no confidence to dissolve their government. They really do....

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