[Fred Fuller]

http://www.wral.com/news/3633700/detail.html

Durham Hopes Billboards Send Message To Criminals

POSTED: 1:40 pm EDT August 9, 2004
UPDATED: 6:46 pm EDT August 9, 2004

DURHAM, N.C. -- Durham city leaders hope criminals finally get the message through billboards that crime will not be tolerated.

This week, billboards will go up along Durham roadways as well as in DATA buses in an effort to reduce crime.

In recent years, the city buses have become moving targets for gunfire.

[Ransom]

And the billboards say......?

[Zundfolge]

And the billboards say......?

Probably something like ...

"Please don't hurt us Mr. Criminal" :uhoh:

Boy I'd love to see Oleg design their billboards

[Unisaw]

Journalism at its finest...:rolleyes:

[buy guns]

do they have ccw there? if so it might help if the board say 1 in X number of citizens are armed.

[Nathanael_Greene]

They're sending a message, all right--that they're basically powerless to do anything really effective to reduce crime.

How about hanging the headless corpses of criminals from streetlamps in downtown Durham? That seems like a pretty effective message.

[Zundfolge]

Okay, I tried uploading all these images to the forum but gremlins got in the way.

Anyway, as a public service to the people of Durham NC I designed 4 billboards (using Oleg's Images). If the city of Durham would like to use them , they should contact Oleg about license.

Keep in mind these are just comps ... not what I'd consider "finished product" but you get the idea.

I also have no idea where Chief Chalmers stands on CCW, the 2A and all that (I expect some citizen of Durham will probably post here about how Chief Chalmers is a gun grabber or something) :p

http://www.funkypurse.com/durham.jpg
http://www.funkypurse.com/durham2.jpg
http://www.funkypurse.com/durham3.jpg
http://www.funkypurse.com/durham4.jpg

[Zundfolge]

oops

[Zundfolge]

oops #2

[Zundfolge]

oops #3

[joe sixpack]

Nice billboards, hope they make use of them.

cheers, ab

[MissileCop]

My, my Zundfolge!!!

I like the last one, especially. "Shootin' criminals......it's a SPORT!!"

Those are good! Thanks for putting a smile on my face for the day!! :D

[nhhillbilly]

I like the last bill board idea the best also.

[Fred Fuller]

Zundfolge,

Wow! If only they'd use something like that- and mean it... . But your ideas would horrify them, Durham being only slightly less prone to criminal- coddling than Chapel Hill. Great effort on your part tho, you have real talent.

I posted the "news story" as it appeared, 1) because it was such great journalism, failing to give any clue as to what the billboards might have to say, and 2) because the story, as brief as it was, indicated that city buses (where the billboards would also be posted) often served as moving targets for the criminal element which the billboards are intended to intimidate.

As far as the "Welcome to Durham" theme is concerned, take a look at
http://www.welcome2durham.com/inside/story.htm . It provides a somewhat different take on things.

lpl/nc

[Kaylee]

Good work Z!

The movie clip... eccccgh. I lived in a not-so-nice part of Durham one summer with a friend about ten years ago.. looks worse now than it was then, and it was no picnic then.

Talk about a lot of NHI incidents. Seems like the honest residents would do well to do a little housecleaning of their own.

-K

[cls12vg30]

I'm pretty sure the actual billboards in Durham just state the strict penalties for crimes committed with an illegal gun. (yes they specifically say, "illegal"). They are similar to the ones that have been up in Virginia for years.

[Walosi]

There was a news item from the UK a few months ago about a senior police official who sent warning letters to repeat offenders, warning them that they were being "closely watched". Zundfolges billboards would give them the impression that they are in the crosshairs. Mo' bettah message, IMO:what:

[Brat7748]

"domain of urban cities" question....what would be an un-urban city?

[Vern Humphrey]

Let me add to a good idea:

"Shootin' criminals -- it's not just a sport, it's a civic duty."

[Fed168]

The documentary does not live up to its name or expectations, having seen the thing for its preview. Not very well put together, either.

Suffice it to say Mickey Moore could do a better job.

[LiquidTension]

Nathanael - how would you propose to hang a headless corpse? I thought hanging usually meant by the neck :neener:

[STW]

Meat hooks :scrutiny:

[Carrying_1]

I wonder what the crime rate is now and what it will be after the banners go up. Will it make a differance? probably not, but it is a good move in the direction of defense with a firearm is correct action. Did any anti's make a big fuss over the billboards?

[wasrjoe]

Those aren't real billboards, carryin_1. The real billboards will probably be something wussified and ineffective. In fact, if they are anything like those damned "Truth" Crazyworld commercials, they will have the reverse effect.

*Goes to light a smoke just because he thought about one of those commercials*

[Hardtarget]

STW...I got a good visual out of that. I like it better than my thought..."one foot". :D
Mark.

[ChristopherG]

do they have ccw there? if so it might help if the board say 1 in X number of citizens are armed.

They do, but if I've been informed correctly, there are only maybe 4,000 card-carrying CCW'ers in the entire STATE of North Carolina. Not such an intimidating statistic, if you average it oug. And, Durham having the gang problem it does, this wouldn't be any kind of reliable indicator of how many people are packing, anyway. Ugh. Fortunately, I don't have to go into town much, except at educational institutions, where CCW is totally verboten. Again, Ugh.

[jason10mm]

Durham requires handgun registration, a law dating back to prohibition. Not inforced AT ALL, AFAICT, but it is there. Durham itself has a lot of bad areas, made worse by all the free care Duke hands out (around 40 million a year). I know for a fact that poor HIV patients flock to Durham for treatment. Nearby Chapel Hill is very "bum friendly", so there is some cross contamination as well. With both universities in the area, plus NC Central, there are lots of custodial type jobs available, requiring a large population of minimum wagers for relatively small cities.

NC allows open carry, but conceal carry there is fairly strict and primarily intended for work related stuff (ie, no going to resturants that serve alcohol), but does allow carry in church. They have recently opened up their state to many, many other states CCW, (including the ubiquitous Florida non-res CCW) so I bet there are MANY CCWers in that state who just don't have a NC permit.

[rayra]

And meanwhile, Duke University, IN Durham, has agreed to allow the national meeting / rally of the anti-semitic Palistinian Terror front-group, International Solidarity Movement on their campus October 15 - 17, 2004.

Saying 'No' to criminals, and 'Yes' to butchering terrorists. Way to go Durham / Duke.

[Jim K]

If those are real, the American Criminal Liberty Union is already preparing a lawsuit. ("Damage to the psyche of the poor, downtrodden criminal...")

And I can hear John ("I only want to ban most guns") Kerry screaming from here.

Jim

[KMKeller]

if I've been informed correctly, there are only maybe 4,000 card-carrying CCW'ers in the entire STATE of North Carolina

You need a new informant!

As of May 31, 2003, there 55,912 permittees with 102,228 applications in. I'd be willing to be the number of total permittees is over 100,000.

http://sbi2.jus.state.nc.us/crp/public/other/conceal/May2003stats.pdf

[ChristopherG]

Wow, great stat sheet, KM--thanks. I'll be sure to let my (mis)informant know how far off he was! I thought the number was awful low; when he told me, I responded: "4,000 CCWers in the whole state? Well, s*&^, I know half of 'em!"