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STW
August 12, 2004, 08:36 PM
I'm looking at a possible move from CA to MD and have a short list of handguns I'd like to buy and can buy here in CA.

Ruger GP100
Ruger Blackhawk
CZ Compact

Given the MD gun laws and internal locks, how should I prioritize these in CA, seeing as I have to space purchases by 30 days.

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rms/pa
August 12, 2004, 08:43 PM
wow, welcome to the east coast,

where in MD?

i would if at all possible, move to PA or VA and commute into MD.
much saner gun laws.DE is not too bad but CHL is not shall issue.
i do not have any info about WV laws.

rms/pa

molonlabe
August 12, 2004, 09:05 PM
Can't answer that, I like the GP 100, handles anything you feed it. Needs an overtravel screw. Welcome to the fight, here is a link for you.
http://www.direct-action.org/

anapex
August 12, 2004, 09:14 PM
All can be found in MD, and with the approval of the new Omega lock not much of a problem to get. I'd probably say grab the CZ first since at least in the shops around me they're a little uncommon. The Rugers on the other hand are pretty common.

md2lgyk
August 13, 2004, 01:00 PM
I second the suggestion to live in VA, PA, or even WV, depending where in MD you'll be working. I live in WV, which is shall-issue for CCW. So are PA and VA, I believe. I work in Frederick, only a 25-mile easy commute.

Besides just their gun laws, there are numerous other reasons I will NEVER AGAIN live in MD.

Where in CA are you? I was born in Eureka and grew up in Santa Rosa.

moa
August 13, 2004, 01:36 PM
Maryland has some pretty restrictive gun laws. I think you can check them out at the site listed below. For instance. private transfers of handguns have to go through the State Police to be legal.

http://www.lcav.org/states/maryland.asp

The above was accessed on Packing.org.

Have you ever been convicted of a crime of violence? If so, you may be precluded from owning a firearm. I am pretty sure that is a Maryland law. Not sure how retroactive it is.

slh02
August 14, 2004, 03:40 AM
Definitely get the CZ. Rugers are quite common in just about any gunshop you will find here. I dont recall ever seeing a CZ on the shelf of any gunstore I frequent, but I havent exactly been looking for them either.

While MD is terrible with gun laws, at least you will be able to get an AR here :)

WonderNine
August 14, 2004, 03:49 AM
CA to MD...that's like moving from hell level 10 to hell level 13. :what:

Kharn
August 14, 2004, 07:52 AM
Dont forget to pick up a trunk-load of 30 round magazines for your soon-to-arrive AK and AR when you drive through Virginia. ;)

Kharn

Girlwithagun
August 14, 2004, 10:35 AM
Welcome to Maryland- It sucks! :neener: The good news is, once you are here you can head to Annapolis with us and fight to change this state. I am feeling especially optomistic this year. :D

MikeK
August 14, 2004, 11:55 AM
Out of the fire and into the frying pan - that's some progress. Glad to have one more sane person in the state. I agree with the advice on the CZ. No discount gun dealers in MD. Living in a nearby state instead of MD if possible is also a good idea.

Let us know when you get settled. There seems to be a growing number of gun activists in the state.

K-Romulus
August 14, 2004, 12:33 PM
Like the other folks said, it's not great here, but you'll find that it's better than CA.

You can still get your AR's here (though they are registered at the time of sale), and HBAR ones don't need to be registered:rolleyes:

There are many of us here working to keep the momentum rolling against the shrill , tiny, anti-gun-owner crowd in this state - a crowd that seems to be shrinking even more, believe it or not.

mountainclmbr
August 14, 2004, 12:35 PM
Poor you. At least you are used to the repression of freedom.

Norton
August 14, 2004, 01:16 PM
Welcome to "The Free State":rolleyes:

As others have said, there's no such thing as cheap firearms in MD....if you can get a fair deal before moving, do it.

What part of the state are you looking at? There's a fair amount of us in central MD who get together for shoots and social activities.

Spot77
August 15, 2004, 11:05 PM
I am feeling especially optomistic this year.

Rap on, Sister!

This year is going to be another HOT one. Now that some of us in the younger generation have gotten our feet wet defeating last year's state AWB, we have the experience and maturity to tackle the next big thing - ccw.


Don't listen to the naysayers - there are FAR worse places you could move to.....NYC, New Jersey....heck at least we don't have "purchase permits" and other silly things like that.

Ditto on the purchase advise; we don't see too many CZ's round' here but Rugers are a dime a dozen.

Internal lock laws are virtually gone now; a removable lock is now sold with all handguns instead of an integrated internal lock.

NBKUVS
August 15, 2004, 11:07 PM
Look at this link from the MD State Police regarding approved Integrated Safety Devices:

http://www.mdsp.maryland.gov/mdsp/downloads/Safety_devices.pdf

My understanding is that the Omega device is approved for semiautomatics only. If you want a revolver, and it does not have a key lock device like S&W or Taurus, you have to get something like the Safe-T-Lock device installed on the trigger guard. Therefore, at the moment, Ruger revolvers manufactured after Jan 1, 2003 are unavailable. I understand that Omega does or intends to make a device for revolvers as well. But if you are in a hurry, I would get a Ruger revolver, if that is what you want. Any semiautomatic will now be available because of the Omega device. At the moment, not so with revolvers.

anapex
August 16, 2004, 03:51 PM
I've said it Spots said it and some others have too, Ruger revolvers are a dime a dozen here still especially single actions. I can find them in pretty much any shop here in Anne Arundel county. However I only know of two places that may regularly carry CZs. One place in Silver Spring and another up in Hancock. If you want a CZ or are going to want a CZ buy it while you can. Otherwise you gotta wait till a shop here happens upon one as a consignment or trade-in.

Partisan Ranger
August 16, 2004, 04:13 PM
With the new generally pro-gun governor, things are changing in MD. But there are millions of nanny-state bedwetters in the counties near DC who would wet themselves and hide under the bed at the thought of a gun (and that's the men).

If you can live in a relative pro-gun paradise just across the river from MD (VA, and WV) instead, why live in MD? Lower taxes in VA and WV too.

Also, VA has just passed some strong pro-gun laws. All the old local city laws banning open carry and/or CCW have been struck down by state law. Lots of city council busybodies around the state had long been flouting state law. No more.

If you have a CCW, you may buy more than 1 handgun per month.

No more county background checks in Fairfax and other counties near DC, which had created a defacto 3-day waiting period. Struck down by state law. Now you can buy in any VA county with only the instant background check.

Getting a CCW here is easy, too.

Only crappy thing is we still cannot CCW in a bar or restaurant that serves booze. Absolutely idiotic. But I have a feeling that restriction will be lifted soon. I heard about bills in Richmond that would allow CCW holders to carry there, if they are not consuming.

moa
August 16, 2004, 06:50 PM
If you plan on moving to Maryland or Virginia, and it is near Washington DC, be prepared for horrendous "rush hour traffic". Something like second worse in the nation.

Prince Georges County has quite a bit of crime, just as Washington DC does too. They are neighbors. A lot of the same actors.

Baltimore has some pretty high crime rates too.

Summers are usually hazy, hot and humid. Winters can get nasty. A few years ago we had about six feet of snow total as well as getting ice storms. Last year we had a hurricane and we get an occasional tornado.

Spring and Fall are usually the best times of year weather-wise.

Besides Sales Taxes, Property Tax, etc., Maryland has State Income Tax and piggy-back County Income Tax. IIRC, Maryland rank a high 47th in taxes nationwide among the 50 States and D.C.

Housing can be quite expensive in the D.C suburbs.

pinblaster
August 16, 2004, 06:53 PM
I'd like to know where you shop . In the Baltimore metro area there are plenty of used Ruger revolvers but they aren't a dime a dozen . Most of the Rugers I see are selling for close to new gun price or more . I was looking for a Single Six awhile back . I found only two shops that had one with a 5-1/2" barrel . One place wanted over $400 and the other place had one for $350 (it was in excellent condition so I bought it) . We have a good governor but the same sorry bunch of liberal democrats that have been running this state for the past 30 or so years keep getting reelected .:rolleyes:

pinblaster
August 16, 2004, 07:06 PM
One more thing about buying handguns in MD . You will have to watch a handgun safety video to get a certificate to buy a handgun .

anapex
August 16, 2004, 07:10 PM
Pinblaster: Most of the shops I go to are in Northern AA county around the Glen Burnie area. I also said that Rugers are a dime a dozen, nothing about them being cheap ;) . The dumb gun lock law had driven up prices pretty good for the past year and a half. I'm just hoping to see a decrease here in a little bit but I'm not holding my breath.

pinblaster
August 16, 2004, 07:34 PM
anapex: I hear you , buddy !:cool:

nico
August 17, 2004, 02:34 AM
Welcome to the so-called free state. I can't think of anything to say that someone else hasn't already said.

hopefully my school schedule this year will allow me to get in on some of the legislative action instead of just giving moral support and buggint "my" legislators.

btw, does anybody know anything about EJ Pipkin? I've heard a few ads for him about how he's running against Mikulski. Does he have a snowflake's chance in hell of beating her?

pinblaster
August 17, 2004, 07:53 PM
Only if we get up off our butts and vote for him .

Spot77
August 18, 2004, 01:19 PM
Pipkin's a good man.

I sent him a $20 check. It's the best I can do right now.

Mikulski and Curran BOTH need to go.

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