John Kerry`s Anti-Gun Record


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Desertdog
August 13, 2004, 01:37 AM
John Kerry`s Anti-Gun Record
http://www.nrapvf.org/Kerry/default.aspx

Two decades of opposing gun owners` rights in the U.S. Senate make John Kerry the most anti-gun presidential nominee in U.S. history!

FACT: Kerry has voted nine times in favor of banning semi-auto firearms.

FACT: Kerry has voted for a Ted Kennedy amendment to ban most rifle ammunition, including the most common rounds used by hunters and target shooters.

FACT: Kerry has voted to close off hundreds of thousands of acres to hunting in the California Mojave Desert.

FACT: Kerry has voted to hold America`s firearms makers — not violent criminals — responsible for crimes commited with firearms.

FACT: Kerry was one of only 18 Senators who opposed the Firearms Owners` Protection Act, which ended alarming abuses being committed under the 1968 Gun Control Act.

FACT: Kerry has voted to allow unlimited warrant-less inspections of FFL holders.

FACT: Kerry has voted to criminalize legal sales between private citizens at gun shows.

FACT: Kerry has voted against increasing mandatory minimum and maximum penalties for the illegal transfer or use of a firearm. But he voted to impose penalties of a year in prison and a $10,000 fine on an adult if a juvenile steals a gun from him and then displays it in a public place.

FACT: Kerry has voted to force many small firearms dealers out of business, which would have impacted both the availability and price of guns, particularly in rural areas.

FACT: Kerry has voted 11 times to force law-abiding citizens to wait to exercise their Second Amendment rights. He voted to keep the federal waiting period after the National Instant Check System was in place.

FACT: Kerry voted twice to eliminate the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

FACT: Kerry commended commended an anti-gun group`s demonstration in Washington that called for gun owner licensing, gun registration and other restrictions on law-abiding gun owners.

FACT: If elected president, Kerry will pack the U.S. Supreme Court with Feinstein/Schumer/ Kennedy-selected anti-gun activists who believe you have no right to own any firearm.

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Shooter 2.5
August 13, 2004, 09:08 AM
kerry has an F rating from the NRA and the GOA. He has an A rating from Handgun Control Inc. Every real gun owner will vote for Bush.

Rebar
August 13, 2004, 11:21 AM
Kerry will pack the U.S. Supreme Court with Feinstein/Schumer/ Kennedy-selected anti-gun activists who believe you have no right to own any firearm.

Actually, there's a good chance that he'd nominate Feinstein, Schumer, and/or Kennedy themselves.

alan
August 13, 2004, 11:36 AM
Both Senators Kerry and Edwards, seemingly bitten by the bug of Senatorial Duty, earlier this year, returned to Washington, D. C. to vote on amemdments to the proposal that would have barred idiotic law suits against gun makers, dealers, and distributors.

They voted IN FAVOR of the amendments. The amendments were adopted, which ultimately led to the defeat of the underlying proposal. One can draw their own conclusions from the votes of the above named, however it appears that they would prefer to hold the innocent responsible for the actions of the guilty. Seems as if things should be the other way round, but then what do I know?

Bartholomew Roberts
August 14, 2004, 11:26 AM
Best synopsis of Kerry's voting record on guns that I've ever seen.

mountainclmbr
August 14, 2004, 01:18 PM
The Communist Party USA has been making pro-Kerry noises. They are not running a candidate to avoid taking votes from Kerry. Does any one know if they have oficially endorsed him?

WonderNine
August 14, 2004, 01:30 PM
I thought they already did...

Apache
August 15, 2004, 08:05 AM
Maybe in someones fantasy-but as far as any politician blabing their mouths,it aint gonna happen! The issues are all economic!
DOWNSIZING, OUTSOURCING, UNorUNDEREMPLOYMENT- Locally the
Bosch factory laid off 500 workers-outsourced to Mexico or some
other podunk area. We're shipping billions of U.S. dollars to Iraq, so that they can make our people into bullet magnets. George Bush is going to
restart the military draft. He'll need to after the losses!
Gun control is a non-issue/ it's the economy stupid!

nhhillbilly
August 15, 2004, 08:30 AM
The president has very little to do with the ecomony except for allowing us to keep and spend more of our own money. Freedom is what I vote for.

alan
August 15, 2004, 10:55 AM
Addendum: The export of jobs, something that has been ongoing for some years, predates The Bush Administration. "Funny" thing about this is the following. While originally the export of good paying jobs involved "only" grubby, greasy, sometimes dangerous manufacturing work, The Chickens Have Come Home To Roost, and these days it's "white collar jobs", including "hi-tech" employment that we see sailing off into the sun-set. If you bend an ear, you can hear all manner of people singing sad songs these days, and no small number of them are those who previously po-pooed the loss of "manufacturing jobs", manufacturing jobs being a pejorative term.

sendec
August 15, 2004, 02:21 PM
Is'nt Bosch based in Europe?

WonderNine
August 15, 2004, 02:50 PM
The president has very little to do with the ecomony except for allowing us to keep and spend more of our own money. Freedom is what I vote for.

Then you must be a libertarian/constitutionalist who's opposed to the Federal Reserve system that prints the "money" through the Treasury at no cost to them and then collects interest on it from our Federal Government.

madcowburger
August 15, 2004, 06:15 PM
Good summary of Komrade Kerry's voting record. It's all perfectly true. But like I keep saying, 99.999 percent of the voting public will never, ever know it. All they will ever know is: "Kerry was in Vietnam! He likes huntin' and fishin'! He'll never try to take my gun!":barf:

As for the economy, I have never once voted my pocketbook since I've been allowed to vote. I always vote my (empty) holster, not my (equally empty) pocketbook.

No president has any more control over the economy than he does over the weather.

MCB

Shooter 2.5
August 15, 2004, 10:13 PM
No president has any more control over the economy than he does over the weather.

The President is being blamed by the leftists for the weather in Florida.
Chances are it was the conservatives down there who have the stockpiles of food, water, guns and knew enough to evacuate while they could.

Standing Wolf
August 15, 2004, 10:54 PM
Take a deep breath. Relax. Another deep breath, eh?

America isn't dumb enough to elect that Kerry creature.

Another deep breath might help.

Turk
August 15, 2004, 11:11 PM
Standing Wolf,

Remember Slick Willie he was elected twice. The 1st time was a maybe for a lot of people but the 2nd time was pure ignorance.

Nothing surprises me with the voting public.

Have a good day and remember to pray for our troops.

Turk

A Vietnam Vet. against Kerry

bud45
August 15, 2004, 11:16 PM
...since I run into customers once or twice a week who I thought were intelligent people, but there are seemingly many ignorant ones here in the Bible Belt. I say "ignorant", because they are unknowing of the facts...they are believing the pablum the media is brainwashing them with:barf: :barf: :barf: Just like that Democrat NJ governor who is a "gay- (er, QUEER) American"; the media is softening the blow, whereas, if it were a Republican, they'd be ripping him to shreds.:cuss: There is definitely media bias in favor of the Demoncats- it's our job to gently but firmly educate the still-educatable.

I wonder, though, about the AWB Sunset? Will Kerry/Edwards try a squeeze play at a time beforehand to get that thing resurrected? And are We The People reasonably sure it WILL sunset with all this crap going on?

alan
August 15, 2004, 11:57 PM
bud45:

Just a passing thought.

Bush's problems or certainly one of them is that he does not seem to know when to shut up. As for the bible belt that you mentined, I would think, allowing that I've been wrong before, that it's exactly the things that annoy me about Bush, that would endear him to those Bible Belters.

As for the Assault Weapons Ban, and it's scheduled sun-set, IF gun owneres can keep the pressure on their elected things, I believe that the thing will sun-set, as per schedule. The Gunnies absolutely have to stay awake, and pay very close attention to exactly what is going on, something that they have not always done.

In any event, even with the demise of the Assault Weapons Ban, there are still a number of problematic pieces of legislation that remain in the statute books, to say nothing of "regulations". Last month's American Rifleman, made mention of some of these things, on page 91 or 92, as I recall.

Otherwise, there are the following:

1. The National Firearms Act of 1934.
2. The Gun Control Act of 1968, amendments to the 1934 Act.
3. The 1986 Machine Gun Ban.
4. Othere anti gun proposals currently kicking around in The Congress.

As I've mentioned before, the pro gun side has got to get it's act together, it long since should have done this, and put the anti gunners on the defensive, instead of reacting to anti gun proposals.

madcowburger
August 16, 2004, 12:55 AM
I sure hope you're right, Standing Wolf.:uhoh:

MCB

bud45
August 17, 2004, 09:06 PM
...Bush not knowing when to shut up? Huh, I guess I missed something there. That's a real thumb-sucker:rolleyes:

Needless to say, I'd rather have a man that starts his day praying for Divine Guidence rather than a guy who starts his day wondering how he's going to pull some more wool over the country's collective eyes.

Needless, the economy is getting better (minority business ownership is up 67%, tax cuts are working, etc. since Bush's induction), for the first time since Reagan. BUT, I'm not happy with several things, such as him falling back on increased tariffs and his endearment to illegal immigrants and not holding Mexico's feet to the fire. I also do not like more businesses going o'seas & Most-Favored-Nation statuses and inclusions to NAFTA/GATT...but, one man can't be blamed for ALL our country's ills, our Congresscritters get the blame, too.

Whatever the issue, I used to take LOTS of time bugging those same 'critters and I intend on making the most of my lunchtimes & banging their phones, both at the local level and in D.C.

alan
August 17, 2004, 11:19 PM
bud45:

Perhaps the following will clarify my meaning. A man is, in my view, women too, fully entitled to worship his favorite god, gods or whatever, however he/she might choose to. I for one, would however wish them to do it quietly, in the privacy of their own home, or place of worship. Quite frankly, I find mysself suspicious about "born again types". In the foregoing, I merely indicate my personal beliefs. Others who might well feel differently, are certainly entitled to so do.

I also believe that the Bush tax cuts are more questionable than anything else, and as for this great economic recovery, while retired, I really do not see it. Seems as if job growth, a necessary component of recovery is simply not keeping up.

With respect to Iraq, while the basis for going in seems questionable, the fact that Sadam was a really nasty guy notwithstanding, the fact that present circumstances indicate a serious lack of planning for AFTER is unacceptable, possibly even criminally negligent.

By the way, I'm most certainly NOT a Kerry fan. I do however believe that Bush leaves a lot to be desired. Actually, if I had to choose between Bush and Kerry, could I please have Harry Truman?

Mr. James
August 18, 2004, 03:14 PM
alan,

Just this morning a friend wrote the following:
How the F*** is it possible that in a country of a quarter billion people the choices for national executive boil down to two guys from one 15-member-per-year secret fraternity at one school, one of whom danger-dodged the great test of his youth and the other of whom lied his way to a successful record in same? Somebody please tell me how that's possible. Or where I can move to get a decent national executive.

alan
August 18, 2004, 06:29 PM
Mr. James:

I'm very much afraid that the answer to the questions contained in what you got from your friend and posted, boil down to the following. Damned if I know!!

Speaking for myself only, I never really cared for Mutt and Jeff.

DonP
August 19, 2004, 09:57 AM
"Bosch factory laid off 500 workers-outsourced to Mexico or some
other podunk area. "

Ummm, Bosch is a German based company that "outsourced" German jobs to the US as part of their marketing strategy to more closely integrate with their US customers.

US Union wage and benefit requirements (demands?) are driving their sub-component manufacturers to other markets where the cost of labor is lower. There are a lot of "foreign" owned companies in the manufacturing, service and even the public utilities markets that have "outsourced" jobs that could have gone to their own populations to the USA.

I put "Foreign" in quotes because many of the unions complaining about outsourcing have their members pension funds invested in these companies. Therefore much of their equity is held by US interests and the increased profit they realize from lower manufacturing costs goes into dividends that go to the stockholders.

Heck, look at Honda, they have been in Marysville, Ohio for 25 years now.

Damon
August 19, 2004, 10:15 AM
Kerry is certainly anti-gun and is trying to hide that with photos of himself at a shotgun sports event. :barf:

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