Educational Day at the Range.


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TheEgg
August 17, 2004, 04:24 PM
Went to the range last Saturday. During a break in the firing, a gentleman came up to me and remarked "I see you are shooting the small stuff" referring to the .22lr pistols I was shooting. I replied that yes, I like shooting .22s and they were cheaper than center fire. Here is where my education began. In the next few minutes, I found out the following:

1. It is NOT cheaper to use .22. You can reload .357 magnums for far less than you can buy bulk pack .22s.

2. This gentleman has a Rock-Chucker reloading press. It is possible to load more than 900 rounds an hour with this set-up.

3. It is easy to shoot more than 1,000 prairie dogs a day, for two weeks in a row. (This gentleman goes to South Dakota every year to shoot prairie dogs.)

4. You should shoot prairie dogs at 800 to 1500 yards, because any closer is just too easy. .22-250 Remington is a perfect caliber for these ranges.

5. A 6x power scope is just fine for shooting prairie dogs at 1500 yards.

6. No, rifle bbls. never wear out, even shooting that much.

Well, sadly, here is where my education ended. The range was once again "hot" and I got back to shooting. The gentleman who was educating me wandered off (he was not shooting, apparently).

But I am looking forward to conversing with this gentleman again in the future and learning more interesting information.

Any of the rest of you picked up such valuable information recently?:D

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JohnBT
August 17, 2004, 04:35 PM
I met a man at a gun store not too long ago. He was buying a $3,000 rifle and a BSA scope. He said they're great and he has them on all of his guns. I hope it holds up on the .300-something-or-other-magnum he was buying.

John

buford1
August 17, 2004, 05:02 PM
I met a man at the range who was telling me he could visualy identifie gun powder by its burning charistics.:what:

anapex
August 17, 2004, 06:16 PM
That's ok I got to hear a story from a new worker at the local gun store about slaughtering hundreds of deer in one night at field with a full auto AK-47, but it was ok because it was crop damage zoned :rolleyes: . Thank god he's the only one I've heard talk like that at that store.

Standing Wolf
August 17, 2004, 08:11 PM
Heck, I heard one shot in the hand with a .45 A.C.P. can take a man's whole arm off, and he'll bleed to death by the time he hits the ground.

Spinner
August 18, 2004, 10:15 PM
I go to gun shops to get a similar sort of education. Absolutely incredible some of the information you could walk away with .... some of it might be really hard to believe if it wasn't for the guy telling me being a gunshop commando and all. ;)

Spinner

Majic
August 18, 2004, 11:47 PM
I was once told that the .45acp just wasn't any good after 50yards as it has used up all of it's energy. I kindly asked the gentleman to stand down range 51 yards and we would put it to a test. Funny how he never took me up on that.

R.H. Lee
August 18, 2004, 11:52 PM
Heck, I heard one shot in the hand with a .45 A.C.P. can take a man's whole arm off, and he'll bleed to death by the time he hits the ground.

Are you saying that's NOT TRUE? :scrutiny:























:p

dukeofurl
August 19, 2004, 12:05 AM
Its ok to put a pre ban ar upper on a post ban lower - but not the other way around.

Glock 22 mags are not Glock 35 mags.

Glock 21 13 round mags are compatible with the single stack 36.

Night sights will give you cancer.

RRA made a preban, and they're very hard to find!

more to come later

4570Rick
August 19, 2004, 12:21 AM
Those who think they know everything, irritate those of us who really do.:D

Knives
August 19, 2004, 12:32 AM
I met a man at a gun store not too long ago. He was buying a $3,000 rifle and a BSA scope. He said they're great and he has them on all of his guns. I hope it holds up on the .300-something-or-other-magnum he was buying.


They sure don't hold up on a .50BMG :neener:

Kodiak AK
August 19, 2004, 12:48 AM
dukeofurl Its ok to put a pre ban ar upper on a post ban lower - but not the other way around.
Sorta true .

Legaly you can not put a pre on a post lower .
You can legally put a post on a pre lower , but it can lose it's preban status from what I have been told .

Ian
August 19, 2004, 02:14 AM
I had a WWII vet at a shop today tell me that somewhat pitted M1 parts worked better than brand new ones. Apparently the lubricating agents got into the pits and kept working longer than if they were on the surface of a pristine part. I dunno if it's true (and don't plan to try it with my M1), but it's a new one to me.

Taipei Personality
August 19, 2004, 08:39 AM
Had an AF range officer tell me that the reason that 5.56 was illegal in that state to hunt deer was that it was so powerful it would blow a deer in half. :rolleyes:

jamz
August 19, 2004, 09:16 AM
Maybe my gun shop is just good, or maybe I just never talk to the other customers much, but I don't get gems like this anywhere. :(

At the range too, I've only gotten one or two pieces of wierd advice, but the little of it I have gotten has been pretty good.

-James

TheEgg
August 19, 2004, 11:18 AM
Maybe my gun shop is just good, or maybe I just never talk to the other customers much, but I don't get gems like this anywhere.

James, thats good. Maybe you just don't look as gullible as I do!!!!:D

Seriously, for some reason I get lots of "interesting" people telling me all sorts of "interesting" things all the time, not just about guns. For instance, if there is a panhandler on the street, for some reason they make a beeline to me, by-passing any number of other people to make their pitch to me. Salesmen, grifters, con-men, street preachers -- they all can't seem to pass me up. This kind of thing happens to me all the time.

I guess I just look like a warm and fuzzy "people" person.

Or is it just the dumb look on my face that nature endowed me with?:)

On the other hand, I guess that it is a great compliment to my concealed carry methods. If all these people had any hint that I was armed to the teeth, I guess they would not be so anxious to "converse" with me!!!!

Sergeant Sabre
August 19, 2004, 01:23 PM
Went to a local gun shop a few years ago and was perusing the display case. I asked, out of sheer curiosity, to take a look at the .50 A.E Desert Eagle that was in the display case. Well, as I was looking at it, the counter guy (who apparently knows somebody in the Detroit Police Department) informed me that I was holding the same pistol that the Detroit undercover police units use. Despite the fact that it was the size and weight of a cement block, the Detroit PD was successfully concealing them. :rolleyes:

Spinner
August 19, 2004, 06:52 PM
Maybe my gun shop is just good

Oh, I wish I had a good gun shop somewhere close to me.

My closest gun shop - whenever I've been in there the owner is too busy nattering to his friends or drinking coffee and reading the paper to be bothered with mere customers. This leaves the assistant .... a guy who looks (and behaves) like "Cletus the slack-jawed yokel" to deal with customers. Now "Cletus" seems to know which end of a gun does the most damage, but that's about it. He's got all sorts of interesting ideas and information that are probably correct on his planet, but not on this one. He would not look out of place in rolled up dungarees, bare feet, a straw hat with a piglet under his arm.

The closest gun shop to my office - every single time I've been in there (about 5 times to date) I have been ignored. I walk in and the guys that work there all stare at me while they continue their fascinating conversations amongst themselves (I look conservative dressed in office-type clothing, short goatee, touch of grey in the hair - definitely not a threat, look like I have some disposable income). I spent an hour in the shop one day just wandering around the shop looking at stuff waiting for someone to talk to me ... nobody did. I refuse to spend any money in this shop now. I'm still waiting for somebody to talk to me so I can explain to them why I'll never give them any of my money.

The best gun shop I've found - a little place on the other side of town which specialises in reloading supplies. Best prices on ammo, reloading supplies and competitive prices on guns. Sales manager is very busy dealing with all the customers who can't get service at other gun shops. Sales manager is also very opinionated about guns .... will supply what you ask for but tell you you're making a mistake for X, Y and Z reasons.

Spinner

schizrade
August 19, 2004, 07:13 PM
When asking if they carried the FAB 10 in a local store I got a blank stare and then, "This is a gun store. We don't sell laundry detergent. Target is down the street."
:banghead:

He was totally serious. A little pissed too I think for pulling what he saw as the equivalent of asking for a Whopper at McDonalds.

possenti
August 19, 2004, 09:24 PM
A guy at work told me that a .25 auto round will go in someone's chest, and come out his knee, elbow, or some other distant extremity. Nasty little buggers.

I learn a lot about wound ballistics talking to people like that.

:rolleyes:

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