Full-auto semi-autos? Who knew?


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GSB
August 19, 2004, 06:14 PM
Amazing the things you can learn from the Coaliition to Stop Gun Violence's news page.

http://www.csgv.org/news/headlines/cincipost5_7_04.cfm

Dems Push for Assault Rifle Ban
By Kevin Osborne
May 7, 2004


Worried that the Republican-controlled Congress won't renew a decade-old ban on assault weapons when it expires this fall, two local Democrats are pushing to enact a similar law in Ohio.

State Rep. Tyrone Yates will introduce a bill this morning that would place the ban permanently into state law, and eliminate existing loopholes that allow gun manufacturers to operate around the ban in some instances.

Yates, a former Cincinnati City Council member, will unveil his proposal along with current Council Member David Crowley at a press conference in Evanston, a neighborhood hit hard by shootings and crime in the past few years.

Crowley will ask his colleagues on City Council to endorse Yates' bill, as well as lobby to extend the federal ban.

The semiautomatic weapons continue firing ammunition automatically once the user squeezes the trigger once and keeps it pressed down.

Urban areas already are wracked by gun violence, and ending the ban would worsen the situation, the lawmakers said.

Also, allowing the weapons would further jeopardize the lives of law enforcement officers as it would be easier for the powerful guns to fall into the hands of criminals, they added.

"They represent a great danger not only to our fellow citizens, but also to police," Yates said. "There are too many guns on our streets now, and this would increase that problem."

Crowley said there are no legitimate reasons for the sale of semiautomatic weapons to the general public.

"These guns can't be used for hunting or any purpose like that," said Rocky Merz, a Crowley aide. "They're made for one reason and one reason only, and that's to use against people."

Scheduled to join the lawmakers at this morning's press conference are Toby Hooper, executive director of the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence, a group that has lobbied for a state ban and helped write the bill; and Dr. Rebecca Brown, a trauma surgeon in the emergency room at Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center, which has been flooded with gunshot victims in the past few years.

The lawmakers will present a petition signed by more than 1,500 local residents urging support for the ban.

Republicans may control the statehouse, Yates said, but public sentiment supports keeping the ban.

"Frankly, everything indicates the public is on our side on this one," he said. "Special interests are the ones who don't want to see the ban continue.

"It comes down to articulating the message about what the bill does. I am always an optimist. Even if the decks are stacked against me, I have to assume it will pass."

Although Bush and Senate Democrats -- including presumptive presidential nominee John Kerry -- support renewing the federal ban, it's unlikely the GOP-controlled House of Representatives would pass such a bill.

In March, the U.S. Senate voted to kill a GOP-sponsored bill that would have given gunmakers liability protection against lawsuits after Democrats amended it to include the federal ban's renewal.

The provisions irked the National Rifle Association, which withdrew its support and prompted GOP leaders to shelve the measure.

The NRA says the ban unfairly infringes on Second Amendment rights.

Ban supporters question Bush's commitment to seek a renewal, noting that Vice President Dick Cheney recently spoke at an NRA convention.

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ZeroX
August 19, 2004, 06:25 PM
While I nearly defecate in my pantaloons from such a weapon, those .22 rifles scare me even more. Hardened criminals can easily buy thousands of rounds for relatively little money and unleash a nearly inexhaustable barrage of hot ballistic death. Get these guns off the streets!

TallPine
August 19, 2004, 06:36 PM
The semiautomatic weapons continue firing ammunition automatically once the user squeezes the trigger once and keeps it pressed down.
I WANT MY MONEY BACK! Mine doesn't work that way :mad:

Maybe I could send it back to the manufacturer and get them to fix it so it works right ....?:D

R.H. Lee
August 19, 2004, 06:37 PM
http://www.on-design.de/jukeart/illu/angst.jpg

Stickjockey
August 19, 2004, 06:41 PM
"These guns can't be used for hunting or any purpose like that," said Rocky Merz, a Crowley aide.

Not sure about anywhere else, but the only regulations I've seen in Oregon concerning this are caliber restrictions and a 5-round limit for semi-autos. Nothing n the regs says I can't hunt deer with an AK; I just have to have 5-round mags for it.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
August 19, 2004, 07:29 PM
"These guns can't be used for hunting or any purpose like that," said Rocky Merz, a Crowley aide.


Pffffft.

the sub-$100 SKS has kept many a family fed and defended during some of the the lean days of the last 25 years. My brother and his buddies have hunted with SKSs ever since they could get their hands on one. Considering his audience is the choir and the ninny fence-sitters this slant and the obvious, blatant inaccuracies are to be expected.

Good country folks can adapt, improvise and overcome. Unless the Revenuers come a-meddlin.

Y'all come back now, y'hear?



Regards,
Rabbit.

Standing Wolf
August 19, 2004, 08:18 PM
If not for lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, and plain old-fashioned fakery, the leftist extremists would have nothing to say.

possenti
August 19, 2004, 08:28 PM
IIRC, Tyrone Yates was the Cinci councilman who wanted to hand out free needles to junkies several years ago. What a clown.

I think I'll fire off a warning letter to my state reps to let them know they had better not try any of this monkey business after the AWB sunset.

GSB
August 19, 2004, 09:17 PM
Now, in all fairness, the paper that originally published the article did correct it at a later date, but it would seem that the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence can't be bothered to do the same.

Damon
August 19, 2004, 09:33 PM
Is it too late to pay the Federal tax stamp for my Class III semi-autos?:banghead:

MP5
August 20, 2004, 07:12 AM
Not High Road Material

R32
August 20, 2004, 07:41 AM
I bet many of you feel pretty stupid now for paying all that money for Class 3 firearms, when all you had to do was go buy a normal Semi-Auto "Assault rife" and hold down the trigger... Its amazing no one stumbled upon this "loophole" before now ;)

Henry Bowman
August 20, 2004, 10:15 AM
Crowley and Tyrone Yates (known locally as "Tie 'r own Shoes") are leftist extremists and idiots*.

*Not necessarily redundant.

They are too stupid to know any better and too leftist to care. This is not name calling. This is mere observation. If I told you what I really thought of them it would not be THR and Art's Grandma would dissapprove. :cuss:

ckyllo
August 20, 2004, 10:38 AM
have you noticed that most of the articles like this are neary identical to the next? the Brady bunch must hand out a form article to all the liberal rags accross the country. that and most media doesnt bother to look up information to back up what they print. if you listen close to the ground I think you can hear Puelitser (sp) ( the prize guy) spinning in his grave if he knew the state of print media today.

mwithers72
August 20, 2004, 10:58 AM
lets see here...... Pull and hold trigger down and gun will continue to fire untill I release trigger....hummmmmm sounds like a full auto (witch is allready regulated) to me not a semi.



Also hold on to your semi shotguns cause they will go with this law. If all semi-autos are in this ....bye-bye to the trusty shotgun.

Notice the key word "weapons" not "rifles", or "handguns" just "Semiautomatic Weapons"

Crowley said there are no legitimate reasons for the sale of semiautomatic weapons to the general public

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