SU-16 over heating problem


August 20, 2004, 01:25 AM
has any one had a problem with there su-16 over heating i took mine to the range the other day and put less than 100 rounds thrue it and it got so hot i couldnt even shoot it. Has any one else had this or any other problem with the su-16

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August 20, 2004, 02:03 AM
What do you mean by couldn't shoot it?
The gun malfunctined?
If so what was the malf ? not feeding? Hammer/trigger broke?
More details please-- I own 1 myself and haven't had this problem (yet)

Badger Arms
August 20, 2004, 03:57 AM
How fast did you shoot it? What was the nature of the malfunction? This gun isn't anything magical, I seriously doubt it would overheat after merely 100 rounds... even on full auto or with a trigger activator device.

Bartholomew Roberts
August 20, 2004, 11:01 AM
CBX, what area are you in? A lot of times, leaving a black rifle out in the summer sun unfired can be enough to heat it up to the point it is uncomfortable to use. If you are leaving the rifle on the line uncovered, it will warm up quite nicely in a Texas sun, even before you fire a shot. Covering the rifle with a towel or blanket when not in use will probably help.

August 20, 2004, 12:17 PM
And other people have referred to small rifles smelling like they are burning up when they get hot. My AR-180 would smoke from under the stocks after lots of shooting on a hot day. Doesn't matter.

I did, OTOH, replace the metal heat-sink forearm on my FAL with plastic. That thing got unshootable after just a few rounds from the heat.

August 20, 2004, 04:55 PM
there was no malfunctine just got to hot to shoot. i just have never had a problem like that with any of my guns so i was wondering if it was a problem with the kel tec's

August 20, 2004, 04:58 PM
don't grab the fore-end with the bi-pod open.:neener:

August 20, 2004, 05:05 PM
so thats what i was doing wrong :banghead:

August 20, 2004, 07:28 PM
where in LA do you go shooting?

Johnny Guest
August 20, 2004, 07:41 PM
- - Prefaced that I have very little experience with the SU-16: Handled ONE in a shop; never fired one. :p

On my cursory examination, I was charmed with the little rifle - -
Five pounds empty, folds to backpack size, integral spare ammo storage, ready-attached bipod, integral Picka-whatsis sight mount, reasonably priced. Reputed to have decent accuracy capability. Good under-the-seat-of the truck gun.

One thing it is NOT, though, is a full scale military rifle - - It is not designed for sustained high volumes of fire. SOME rapid fire, yes - - A magazine or two - - but not "trigger fanning" for hundreds of rounds at a time. Similar drawbacks, if drawbacks they are, with the early Ruger Mini-14s.


August 20, 2004, 09:23 PM
Yup, light weight is great for packing, but a pencil thin barrel is going to get REALLY hot REALLY fast.

Good for a gun you want to carry lots and shoot not so much. A mag or so and then wait for it to cool down and go again.

August 21, 2004, 03:58 AM
Do what I do -- wear gloves; I use my driving gloves. Plus firing black rifles while wearing gloves with little cut-outs over the knuckles just makes you look so darn Chow-Yun Fat cool!

August 21, 2004, 02:59 PM
GTKrockeTT i go shooting in azusa canyon at burrow canyon (not sure if i spelt that right)

August 22, 2004, 04:14 PM
Even a SAR-1 (AK lookalike) will get too hot to touch the bare barrel after only a couple of magazines, and AK's are rather famous for their ability to tolerate abuse. That doesn't have as much to do with the design of the rifle as with the fact that that the chamber and throat get heated by 1000-degree gas at 50,000 psi every time you fire a shot, not to mention the friction of copper sliding against steel at Mach 2 (or Mach 3 for a .223).

August 23, 2004, 10:47 AM
Yes, the handguards on my SU-16 get VERY hot VERY fast with rapid fire. Remember that they enclose the gas tube and barrel and there is no ventilation through there.


August 23, 2004, 12:48 PM
I handled an SU-16 recently at a gun show and liked it, but it does seem like a type that will heat up pretty quick. I had trouble once with my CAR while shooting in an open area with no shade, temp over 100 degrees. Didn't fire many rounds, but the gun sitting in the sun made it feel like picking up a hot skillet. Ouch.

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