What would you guys recommend for my next pistol purchase? My first pistol was a Walther P22. My options are 9mm, .40 S&W, .45, and .357 Sig. What are your thoughts/favorites out of these cartriges?
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August 20, 2004, 01:14 PM
Actually, it depends upon you and what you want it for.
Out of the calibers you name, the .45ACP is my favorite, but have you considered a good .357 revolver in order to be able to use both .38 SPL and .357 Magnumns?
You say that your first (and only?) pistol is a Walther P22. That was a good choice for a first pistol. Perhaps a good choice for your second is the versatile .38SPL/.357 Magnum. Just a thought to consider.
August 20, 2004, 01:15 PM
Depends on a couple factors. Personally I like the .45ACP for fun to shoot and for HD/SD. For cost reasons I prefer the 9MM for target shooting and plinking.
Of course, the type/brand of handgun would play role too.
What brands, models, types of semi-autos are you looking at?
August 20, 2004, 01:18 PM
For auto-loaders, .22LR and .45ACP.
22 for practice, 45 for everything else.
For hunting and large predator protection, .44 magnum revolvers are better than any autoloader. For concealment, a .38+P or .44 special revolver is mighty fine.
August 20, 2004, 02:42 PM
Best bang for the buck. :D
August 20, 2004, 03:13 PM
Everything is fun to shoot but picking one, all things considered it would be the 45 ACP.
It has everything going for it.
Powerful but can be loaded down to a pussycat.
Not too expensive. Very cheap to reload.
Many guns to choose from.
Many different bullets to choose from.
It is a proven round from the shooting range to the battlefield.
August 20, 2004, 04:05 PM
My favorite pistol round is the 9mmx32R, but there are very few Semi's that will operate in this caliber very well, one the Coonan and the other the Desert Eagle.
Barring that I really like the 45 acp with the 9mmx19 a close second.
August 20, 2004, 05:32 PM
My favorite would be the 45ACP followed by the 9mm.
August 20, 2004, 06:15 PM
August 20, 2004, 07:48 PM
probably the widest selection of platforms.
cheap to reload or cheap to buy at wal-mart.
Recoil easier to manage.
good for defense.
tons of ammo variety.
highest capacity in hicaps and slimest designs in single stacks.
plus you can get a P7 and a HiPower. :)
Barry in IN
August 20, 2004, 08:03 PM
In my opinion, and only my opinion,
Being your first centerfire pistol, I'd probably say 9mm.
You (like me, and everbody else) needs all the practice they can get. A 9mm will allow the most bang for the buck, as already stated.
You can walk into WalMart (I'd rather not, but I could) and buy 500 rounds of Winchester "white box" 9mm practice ammo for something like 50-55 bucks- about half what the same in 45ACP goes for.
I carry a 9mm often (Browning HiPower or HK P7M8), and feel fine about it.
But, when I can, I carry a .45ACP 1911, because a little more can't hurt.
For that matter, if I could hide it, I'd carry an M1 Garand.
I feel that the biggest negative to the 9mm is that there are only a few effective types of defensive ammo available.
I like CorBon 115 jhp+P, 125 jhp+P; and Federal 115 jhp (Fed's part number 9BP) or the Fed 115 jhp+P (9BPLE).
The Winchester Ranger 127 grain +P+ is favored by a lot of people, but I have no experience with it. It is intended for Law Enforcement only, and is usually harder to come by.
The 45ACP, on the other hand is just dandy in almost any configuration, except the really light bullets- again, in my opinion.
August 20, 2004, 08:10 PM
I am with my friend Frosty (and others) on this one, as
the .45 ACP is also my favorite; followed closely by the
.38/.357 and the 9m/m.
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
August 20, 2004, 08:13 PM
i have them all, understand that 357 Sig in a 229 is my hourly companion. But, I would start with a 9mm because the ammo is so cheap you will be able to get good with it. I recommend a CZ or Taurus 92 (high cap mags are cheap for these) for a starter auto. Then 45 ACP in a 1911, then go Sig.
August 20, 2004, 08:16 PM
9 mm is fun and reasonably priced!
August 20, 2004, 08:37 PM
for some background info: I have a .38, but me and my grandfather share it, so i dont shoot it a lot. he uses it for home defense. I was thinking a P99, since I love my P22. The P99 comes in 9mm, which im considering a lot more, and the .40sw. But nobody has talked about the .40 yet, any thoughts/ opinions on it ?
August 20, 2004, 09:07 PM
I own autoladers in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. I enjoy all 3 calibers, but my favorite is the 40. I use it for steel plate shoots and like it the best. I would compare the 40 for autos on the same plane as the .357 mag. for revolvers. It has more snap, but is controlable. INMHO, If you could only have one of the 3, the 40 S&W brings out the best features of the other 2 calibers. The 9mm is the cheapest to feed and is more affordable to shoot. There is nothing wrong with the 9mm, it would be my second choice. The 45 is a big chunk of lead that when compared to the other two.
August 20, 2004, 11:42 PM
Since you posted this on the autoloader forum I will assume you want to stay with one. For one semi-auto, I too would choose the .40S&W, tough to beat especially in something like an XD from Springfield.
But, since you said "for your next pistol purchase", I will step out on a limb and assume it won't be your last. ;) With that in mind, how much can you spend for your next pistol, what's your top dollar? And, what will be it's primary purpose?
August 21, 2004, 03:56 AM
If budget is a concern, I'd look heavily at a 9mm for economy for shooting, ease of recoil and less of a tendency to flinch with many folks.
If budget isn't as much of a concern, and if you've shot centerfire enough that you don't flinch much, 45ACP is a very rewarding cartridge to shoot.
If this was general handguns, I'd go along with the 38/357 suggestion... But this isn't... so I won't... :p
August 21, 2004, 09:50 AM
.22 LR for fun.
.45 for business.
August 21, 2004, 07:42 PM
Every gun collection should have:
A .22 LR (lots of fun)
A J frame S&W (just because)
A 9mm (one of most versatile pistol rounds ever made)
A 1911 (do i have to explain why?)
A .357 Magnum (most versatile revolver ever made)
Anything else is just icing on the cake (a 9mm would make a nice candel).
August 21, 2004, 08:10 PM
Cheap, hicap, deadly frangible ammo avaliable, can get pistols from full to pocket size in one caliber, 9mm autoloaders always more reliable than the same gun in larger calibers.
What else can you ask for?
August 22, 2004, 03:52 AM
I'm new on here and new to shooting autoloaders as well.I recently purchased a Glock 23 which is .40S&W.I also have a Ruger KP94 in 9mm.I like the 40 though some of it may be due to I think I like the Glock better than the Ruger.The .40 does kick more but not as much as I expected.Also where I live the Winchester white box .40S&W is only a dollar more per 50rnd box than 9mm at Wal-Mart.The way I looked at it was I already had a 9mm so I wanted a different caliber and the .40 was more powerful than 9mm yet cheaper to shoot than a .45ACP.
August 22, 2004, 10:30 AM
The .45 which does everything other than my rifle can.
August 22, 2004, 03:02 PM
Price wise, you can shoot twice as much 9mm as .45 for the same $.
.45 makes bigger holes, easier to see in targets.
Both are fun to shoot.
August 22, 2004, 05:28 PM
Mine is 9mm
Just fine for defense, target, reloading...whatever you want.
Available everywhere for less than any other round you mentioned unless you find a screaming deal on .38spl.
Pick up a CZ75B in 9mm first. This gun will be the standard you compare all others too. No other gun on the market can match its features and quality at the prices they go for. I love mine!
After that, I'd go .40 then .357sig.
I tend to avoid .45acp guns. Usually, the low capacity takes them off my useful list. Besides, 9mm will expand larger than .45 on a more regular basis. Even if it doesn't expand, you have more chances to hit your target.
more is better than bigger.
August 22, 2004, 05:50 PM
9x19 > *
August 22, 2004, 07:19 PM
point four five automatic colt pistol
August 22, 2004, 10:13 PM
From what you have on your list I would say 9MM.
For a first centerfire handgun I think you would get more mileage out of a 38 / 357 wheel gun. Something solid and dependable like a blackhawk.
At your age you have plenty of time to pick up other stuff as the years pass.
August 22, 2004, 10:33 PM
I'd go 9mm for my first full size handgun. I've tried 9mm, .40 and .45 and the .45 is by far my favorite, but something that's best worked up to in most cases.
August 22, 2004, 10:50 PM
Please consider a 10mm. Both the Glock 20 (Full-Size) and the Glock 29 (Compact) can have their 10mm barrels swapped out for either a .40 or .357 Sig barrel. You don't even need different mags since the 10mm, .40, and .357 Sig cartridges have exactly the same case diameter.
Federal Arms makes the conversion barrels for about $90 each.
For the price of 1 10mm Glock plus $180 worth of conversion barrels, you can have 3 guns in 1!
August 23, 2004, 12:22 AM
Glock is a good gun, as far as glocks go i'd go for a 17-9mm, they perform great and you can run any style of 9mm ammo through them that you want and they'll shoot it all just the same...and they are so easy to clean. Just a drop of oil on your fingers, touch the 4 main posts, and you're done. swab it a few times and you're ready to go.
PLUS contrary to popular belief they are extremely durable guns, some of the local law enforcement around this area did a test when they changed over the standard sidearm to a glock and they tied a glock 17 on a string then to the bumper of a police cruiser, drove it 12 miles from the station to one of the more distant shooting ranges from their area (mind you it was hitting the ground the whole time at an average of 35-55 mph, I witnessed this first hand) after they got it there they loaded in a clip and began popping off rounds, an average of 3-5 inch groups at 30 yards. Needless to say I was impressed.
My first 9mm pistol was a Bryco Arms - Jennings Nine-ca
the pistol was used and had been dropped, but after a good cleaning and a thorough internal inspection to see that nothing was damaged, i shot it...I was actually impressed at the accuracy that this gun held, usually the "saturday night special" type guns don't hold any justifiable pattern at all but I could manage a good group with it. I actually still have the gun to this day as one of my more favored plinkers(mind you it is JUST a plinker).