Thinking on obtaining a FFL


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RJ likeguns
August 21, 2004, 08:44 AM
Hello all,

The wife and I were talking about obtaining a FFl & starting a part-time gun shop. We know lots of people interested in guns and would be able to sell them for a slight markup. Has anyone else taken on this endeavor? Thoughts would be greatly appreceiated!:)

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Harry Tuttle
August 21, 2004, 12:06 PM
During the Clinton Campaign, the BATF was instructed to closely audit all FFLs for zoning ordinance violations and pulled every kitchen table FFLs licence they could justify.

The are quite proud of the number of businesses they shuttered.

In order to qualify these days, you need a sound business model and a commerically zoned location.
The day of casually ordering guns for your buddies are long gone.

Majic
August 21, 2004, 12:16 PM
While on the federal level it looks ok they will forward your request to your local government and all business and zoning ordinances must be met before the BATFE will consider your application.
In other words you will have to go in business to make money behind a storefront. No more kitchen table or garage dealers.

Can'thavenuthingood
August 21, 2004, 01:06 PM
Here's a past thread on FFL. You mighttry a C&R FFL first, see how things kinda work.

Put together a business plan. On paper, detailed.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93244

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94072

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86145

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91913

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94975

The last one is Advice on opening a gunshop thread.

Vick

Jim K
August 21, 2004, 04:28 PM
Probably some of my comments are in those threads, but I will keep it simple. If you want to run a business, run a business. Do it right, do it legal, and do it to make money. Selling guns to your buddies at a "slight markup" is the sure way to spend more than you make, and to make enemies besides. Believe me, I have been there and done that.

And believe me when I say that, even today, the FFL is the easy part. You need a business premises, a bookkeeper, an accountant, a lawyer on retainer, good insurance, etc., etc. You can't run the business right on a "slight markup".

Thinking of working out of your home if it is legal? Do you really want some bum knocking at your door at 2AM on opening day of deer season because the rifle he bought at K-Mart broke and he wants you to make good on the warranty and give him a new one? He can't go to K-Mart, because they are not open yet. (This really happened to a friend of mine who had his store in his home.)

Jim

Majic
August 21, 2004, 08:42 PM
The C&R isn't designed as a business license. You should carefully check into that if you plan to use one in a business proposition.

Hkmp5sd
August 21, 2004, 08:51 PM
You can still get a "kitchen table" FFL provided you can get all of the appropriate local licenses to operate a business out of your home. ATF doesn't like them, but there is nothing they can do if you're legal.

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