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Zip06
February 19, 2003, 02:39 PM
Among other things the multi-tools have screwdrivers which can help in making repairs at the range. My question is which multi-tool is the best; Gerber, Leatherman, SOG and others make them, which do you have and why?

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VaughnT
February 19, 2003, 02:47 PM
I have the leatherman supertool and won't part with it for anything. Leatherman has a lifetime warranty and will fix/replace the tool any time you want. Just send it to them.

I disagree with putting a pair of scissors on anything that already has TWO knife blades. However, the Leatherman Micra is very nice and I bought one for my mom. It replaces the pliers with scissors, and works like a dream.

For my 1911s, I'm considering having leatherman replacing the scissors on the Wave model with a brass-faced 1/8" punch. All I'd have to do then would be grind the flathead driver down to fit my stock screws and I can completely dismantle my weapon anywhere, anytime.

Baba Louie
February 19, 2003, 02:51 PM
Over the years I've collected three Leathermans (one original...pinches the palm when using the pliers...ouch, two Waves) and two Gerber (sliding pliers with lock).

Why? Cause they're handy and fun. Kitchen, bedroom, office, briefcase and toolbox are where they reside. Probably should get one for the range bag.

I like the Wave by Leatherman due to the outside thumb opening blades. YMMV

Adios

Inspector Callahan
February 19, 2003, 02:52 PM
I've always wanted a Spyderwrench and plan to buy one as soon as it's re-released. But for now I get along just fine with my Leatherman Wave. Handy tool.

Leatherneck
February 19, 2003, 02:53 PM
Multi-tools should never be brought close to a gun you value! I can't think of a quicker way to screw up slots/finish/etc than one of those "one size fiits all" blades. It doesn't take much effort or room to assemble a deployable gunsmith-quality tool kit: two screwdrivers, a pair of small visegrips, maybe a small hammer and drifts.

I gave my son a Leatherman Wave for Christmas, as he's into sailboat racing, and the secure pouch and versatility of the tool were attractive for the sailboat arena. It was a compact, well-made tool. But for firearms? No way. JMHO.

TC
TFL Survivor

Chaz
February 19, 2003, 02:53 PM
I have carried a Gerber tool for the last 3 years and have found that I cannot do without it anymore.
Dont worry about the name just get the tool that meets your needs. However, dont buy the $10 dollar ones. They are not built well. I paid about $50 for mine and its still going strong and It had one of the sharpest knives on it that I've ever had!!

Zip06
February 19, 2003, 02:56 PM
Leatherneck - I put the remark about the versatility of the tool to allow for firearms repair in to make this link relate to firearms. I would not use a multitool on a firearm either.

Larry Ashcraft
February 19, 2003, 03:02 PM
I've carried the Gerber for about 4 years now on weekends and when traveling (don't need it at work, I have plenty of tools here).

The one-handed opening feature comes in handy all the time for opening hay bales or fixing a fence. The screwdrivers are not as good as a real screwdriver, but I don't always have a real screwdriver on me.

coonan357
February 19, 2003, 03:03 PM
I recieved my leatherman super tool some years ago as a gift from one of my customers ( trucking industry perk ) and I haven't been without it since I got it , one of my former bosses gave me a single stack mag carrier (holster??) that he didn't need so I combined the two , they work great together , but the looks I got at the office where a little weird as everyone thought i was packing due to this silver thing sticking out of the holder .

Catbird
February 19, 2003, 03:12 PM
I prefer the Gerber. When I was shopping around for a multi-tool, I found that some brands had their knife blades, screwdriver blades, etc. opening outward from the gripping surface of the pliers. Unless you're wearing gloves, squeezing the pliers full force could be quite painful. The Gerber brand has a fairly flat gripping surface for the handles of the pliers. I have the Scout -

http://www.gerberblades.com/images/home/home_tools.gif

Sisco
February 19, 2003, 03:18 PM
The only one I carry is a Craftsman. Small enough to fit in the watch pocket of a pair of jeans but versitile. Phillips & two straight screwdriver blades, knife & file. Pliers too of course.
If it should break - it hasn't yet but I sure have tried - just take it back to Sears and get another.

sm
February 19, 2003, 03:23 PM
Leatherman PSII
Leatherman Micra

Have both, suffice to say don't carry often--not everyday. For road trips, hunting...etc I carry one or both. Micra is especially handy for the office. In fact I did use the Micra at the range...little punch dealie on the bottle opener blade. Blown primer hung up in action of 1100...Had to remove the trigger group to get to action...

shadow 1
February 19, 2003, 03:36 PM
I have both the Original Leatherman and the Gerber sliding lock version. I always have one or the other in my deployment bag, which goes with me everywhere.

I get alot of use out of them, it never fails, when I am overseas somewhere and the local food is no good or a particular person doesn't want the local stuff, they generally come to my room with a seriously befuddled look on their face holdinbg a can of Chef Boyardee! I have started packing extra P-38s with me to give away:scrutiny:

Blackhawk
February 19, 2003, 04:03 PM
Ever since I saw the first Swiss Army Knife a million or two years ago, I've thought multi-tools were neat. But I've never acquired one, and I can't understand why unless deep down I might think they're dorky.... :D

T.Stahl
February 19, 2003, 04:13 PM
I have a Victorinox SwissTool, which is also available in (tactical!) black (important for Twoblink and Skunkabilly :D )

sm
February 19, 2003, 04:19 PM
Multi-Tools were a gift...brother thought with my lifestyle-I'd use.
Actually the Swiss Army Knife have is the 'pre" tweezer/toothpick model. Lets see my truck is a '93 model, and it's been in two vehicles before that...been used to clean game, unstick a hull from a rusty chamber, clean fish, spread peanut butter, fix a hose, cut tubing to siphon gas, fix a La-Porte trap machine, diassemble guns, break into to the range office, screw a scoreboard to the wall during a tournament, and cut steaks at club cookouts...typical weekend at the club ;)

blades67
February 19, 2003, 04:33 PM
I have an number of multi tools; a couple of Swiss Army knives, a Leatherman PSII and a Wave. I have used my Wave on a couple of firearms for various reasons. When I'm in the field I don't have the luxury of worrying about scratching the finish or putting a burr in a grip screw.:rolleyes:

Mal H
February 19, 2003, 04:37 PM
I've also got a Victorinox SwissTool. It has 3 different size blade screwdrivers. They are nicely squared off instead of having the rounded blades that most other multi-tools seem to have. The pliers are excellent, semi-needle, deep tooth and wire cutter combo.

I also have a Gerber which is very good, but not quite as good as the SwissTool and not as many options.

I've never used one on a gun and agree that dedicated tools are best for that application especially scopes since the wrong screwdriver can really mess up scope screws and rings but I don't see a problem with using them on screws that aren't torqued tightly.

Carlos
February 19, 2003, 04:40 PM
Zip, I'd recommend the Leatherman Wave. Main thing I like is the blades are on the outside, so you don't have to open the thing up.

The tool is equipped with plenty of blades, screwdrivers, files, etc., and a GOOD pair of scissors.

Leatherman is a local Oregon company, and I always like to buy local if I can.

The Wave gets a big thumbs up from Carlos. I'll show mine to you the next time we're at the range. Sorry I can't go tonight. Perhaps you'll come tomorrow evening?

Carlos

dairycreek
February 19, 2003, 04:43 PM
Starting with Victorinox many, many years ago through Gerber and Leatherman Juice, and a host of others as well. Have not been able to resist the new multi tool as it would be the "perfect" tool and I would never need another. Sure thing! Best to date? The Leatherman Wave Tool seems to be the pick of the litter. Good shooting;)

Gunhead
February 19, 2003, 04:44 PM
I have the Leatherman Wave. Since then I sold all my fancy/tactical/expensive/whatever knives and use this tool for everything (computer, car, gun maintenance, etc). Excellent product...

Soap
February 19, 2003, 05:00 PM
The Leatherman Wave is the perfect multi-tool for me. I really the the one hand opening blades. I also own a PST that I keep in my car. Anyone think I could perform an engine teardown with a PST on a 2.8L V6? ;)

22x9
February 19, 2003, 05:14 PM
I have a Gerber Multiplier 800 Legend and it goes everywhere I go(except Airports).

Wheelgun
February 19, 2003, 05:20 PM
My first multi tool was the standard Leatherman. Not very comfortable in plier form. My wife has a SOG "Crosscut" that was quite handy while traveling. Can't take it with us when flying anymore. The only complaint I have Heard about the standard SOG multitool was the pliers don't open up far enough. . When I went to replace my old leatherman, I intended to purchase a new one, but picked up a Victorinox "Swiss Tool" instead. Side by side, there was no comparison between the Victorinox and the Leatherman. The "Swiss Tool" ands down the best multi tool on the market IMO.

-Wheelgun

RCReecer
February 19, 2003, 05:43 PM
The thing I like the most about the Gerber is that everything is on the inside. All the tools lock, and with as sharp as the knife is, I'm awfully glad that it can't fold down on my fingers. Also, since the tools are on the inside of the handles it makes using the pliers a lot more comfortable than my leatherman (which resides in the glovebox of my 4x4). The one handed opening is really nice too.

Steve Smith
February 19, 2003, 06:00 PM
I too think that the SwissTool is the best on the market.

Chris Rhines
February 19, 2003, 06:08 PM
I have a Leatherman Wave and wouldn't leave home without it. Also usually have a Micra on my keyring, but it vanished during an adventure race and I haven't found it yet. :(

The Swisstool is also a good, well-made tool. I dislike the Gerbers, they have some substantial design flaws.

On that topic, anyone know of a maker of good Kydex belt carriers for a Leatherman Wave?

- Chris

BamBam
February 19, 2003, 06:10 PM
I carry the Leatherman Super Tool daily. I can't speak highly enough about it.
I use it dozens of times a day as a contractor.

- Cut sheetrock for recepticals
- Cut copper tubing
- cut, strip and crimp wire
- The Phillips screwdriver works on #1,2 and 3 screws and stays sharp
- Thee sizes of flat tip screwdriver
- I use it as a hammer in a pinch......never hurt it.
- Excellent coarse and fine file
- 9" ruler
- I lost one outside and found it a YEAR later......did not rust.

The Super Tool will save you MANY trips back to the truck.

Med 10
February 19, 2003, 06:35 PM
I own a Gerber and love it. It stays in my truck. But the multi-tool that is on my duty belt is a Buck tool. Same basic features as all the others except its very well built and kinda heavy. The nylon pouch is also very tough. The handles sorta twist to open, and it has the sharpest blade i've ever seen.

This is one tough puppy. Its been used extensively in the Fire/Emergency services for the past 4 years and has survived relatively unscathed even after being run over by an Engine.

This is the tool I recommend.

Carlos
February 19, 2003, 09:23 PM
Well, Zip, you got some tough choices to make.

Personally, I'd for for the WAVE. I'm not discounting the other multi's on the market, either.

M60
February 20, 2003, 01:01 AM
The ONLY multi tool I'll EVER own is a LEATHERMAN!!!

When I was in "The big sandbox #1" I broke my Leatherman. This was bad:uhoh: I sent it in for repair from Saudi or whatever ****hole country I was in at the time and told them I abused the heck out of it, and if they would fix/replace I would gladly pay for it.


They sent me a CASE (12) of them and said "No charge. Pass them around. Hope this will help. Thank you." Or something similar (its been a while).

Well, lets just say I think that is great customer service!!!:D

Hutch
February 20, 2003, 10:36 AM
I have two of the Gerbers (Lost one, bought a replacement at a gun show, then found the lost one), but I really like the Buck. Because of the way the handles deploy on the Buck, you can actually get torque on the pliers to OPEN, as well as close. I gave one to my F-I-L, and dropped broad hints that I'd like one, but nooooooooooo, I get a Gerber. F-I-L was a good sport, offered to trade.

All that being said, M60's story would probably influence my decision on what to buy next. Can't beat that kinda support!!!

Kentucky Rifle
February 20, 2003, 11:22 AM
But I actually only paid for one. The other 3 were gifts. The first model was the "original" that came with a leather belt sheath. GREAT needle-nose pliers! It's in the trunk of my motorcycle and I've used it for years. Amazingly, it's as tight as the day I bought it and I don't think it's ever been oiled. (Hummmm, gotta do that.) The second was just like the original, but about half the size. Perfect! The needle nose pliers have been great on trips. Formally, I kept it in my "carry-on" bag. :mad:, but now I guess it has to be checked within my suitcase. The last two are pretty neat also. My wife gave me both. The first was a little green "Micra". The Micra is neat, but I have to unfold the Micra to get to the "tools". However, the one she gave me last week in REALLY neat! It's called a "Squirt". The Squirt is what I carry. It's got some really good scissors on the "inside" (UNfolded), but all the little "tools" can be opened and accessed from the "outside" while the little thing is still in the FOLDED position. The "Squirt" is a wonderful little gizmo that's about the size of a couple of "cough-drops". (No foolin'!)
The only "gun related" job I've ever used my Leatherman's on was to change grips.


KR

Bainx
February 20, 2003, 07:22 PM
I've owned a Leatherman over a decade.
I remember once a friend at work had one of the Gerbers, perhaps a real early version. While using it as pliers, they slipped and he pinched the crap out of the palm of his hand. He took them and heaved them as hard as he could!

I will never forget that.:p

Zip06
February 20, 2003, 09:53 PM
Sounds like these are really versatile. Is there any quality or durability differences between Gerber and Leatherman?

Dave Markowitz
February 21, 2003, 09:42 PM
I have a Gerber Multiplier Scout, which I keep in my laptop bag (I am a systems engineer for a telco/ISP). I don't use it a lot but when I need it, it's very handy.

The tool which largely replaced the Multiplier in day to day use for me is a Victorinox CyberTool 41. It's basically a SwissChamp redesigned for geeks, with a folding socket screwdriver set and a small but still very useful pliers, among a zillion other tools. I've used it to take apart everything from PCs to big Nortel ATM switches.

10-Ring
February 21, 2003, 11:18 PM
I bought an inepensive one at a show a couple years ago...I think it's by Buckmark. I keep it in my rangebag & figured I'd use it till it break. Well, it hasn't broken yet & I use it quite often. Next time tho, I'm getting something bigger so there's more to hang onto while in use.

3 gun
February 22, 2003, 09:05 AM
Three multi tools here. Two Leatherman, a Wave and Crunch and a Swiss Army. Can't count the number of times they've bailed me out of a tight spot.

0007
February 22, 2003, 11:11 AM
Our office has pretty much tried every tool out there starting with the original Leatherman, SOG, Gerbers, Victorix, Schrade, . Best we have foundfor all-around use is the Leatherman Super 200. The screwdriver tips are a little longer then anybody else's, the handle edges are "rolled" for comfort and it locks open with a release to unlock. It's done duty for me in most all of the Embassies in the Middle-East. Get a mag-holster to hold it and the accessory package if you need socket wrenches occasionally.

Skunkabilly
February 22, 2003, 01:32 PM
Another vote for the Leatherperson.

I have a Wave but am considering adding an ST200 (not sure if it can open with one hand) and/or the Crunch to add to the collection. Not sure if giving up all the gizmos for the grips on the Crunch is worth it though. Wave is the greatest all-around multi-tool IMO though I haven't played with much since I got it, so there may be something newer and better?

fal308
February 23, 2003, 11:50 AM
I got one of the original SOG Tools when they came out many years ago. I finally got so loose last year from usage (I carried it everyday everywhere) that I went out and started looking at the newer models out there. I ended up with the Leatherman Wave also. Have to admit I like it better than I thought I would.

peteinct
February 27, 2003, 08:50 AM
Hi everyone, I got my Mom's husband a leatherman and he loved it. He loved the gadgetityness (sp?) of it, the heft of it and how smoothly the blades and tools folded out. This christmas I got him a red mini maglite and a red "juice" leatherman. They match in color and the juice has a corkscrew with is probably the only tool he would use with any regularity.
pete

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